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In wanting Mumsnet to help Judi Dench and Joanna Lumley

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GiantBranch · 08/01/2026 18:55

Last week, Israel banned 37 international aid organisations from operating in the strip, including Oxfam, Save the Children and Medicine Sans Frontieres (MSF). MSF delivers one in three of Gaza’s babies, and experts warn that immediate action must be taken to prevent a catastrophe.

It has prompted more than 100 leading members of the arts, including Dames Judi Dench, Imelda Staunton, Joanna Lumley, Sienna Miller, Suranne Jones and singer Paloma Faith, to sign a letter urging popular online platform Mumsnet to join them in demanding urgent government action ensuring maternity care is accessible in Gaza.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/gaza-israel-baby-birth-judi-dench-letter-b2896981.html

International aid groups grapple with what Israel's ban will mean for their work in Gaza

Israel has revoked the licenses of more than three dozen humanitarian organizations, and now those groups are grappling with how that will affect aid operations in Gaza

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/israel-united-nations-norwegian-refugee-council-palestinians-doctors-without-borders-b2894091.html

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GiantBranch · 14/01/2026 08:40

and so it continues:

At least four displaced Palestinians killed when strong winds caused walls to collapse onto their tents and a one-year-old boy died of hypothermia

Associated Press
Wed 14 Jan 2026 02.41 CET
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Strong winter winds collapsed walls onto flimsy tents for Palestinians displaced by war in Gaza, killing at least four people, as dangerous living conditions persist after more than two years of devastating Israeli bombardment and aid shortfalls.
A ceasefire has been in effect since October, but aid groups say that Palestinians broadly lack the shelter necessary to withstand frequent winter storms.
The dead include two women, a girl and a man, officials at the Shifa hospital, Gaza City’s largest, which received the bodies, said on Tuesday.
The Gaza health ministry said on Tuesday that a one-year-old boy died of hypothermia overnight.

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GiantBranch · 14/01/2026 08:43

James Elder, spokesperson for the UN children’s agency Unicef, said on Tuesday that at least 100 children under the age of 18 – 60 boys and 40 girls – had been killed since the truce began due to military operations, including drone strikes, airstrikes, tank shelling and use of live ammunition. Those figures, he said, reflected incidents where enough details had been compiled to warrant recording, but the total toll is expected to be higher. He said hundreds of children had been wounded.

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LittleMG · 14/01/2026 08:44

Unfortunately MN is really anti Gaza. I’m sure I’ll get attacked for saying that but it’s true. I don’t know how you can defend not allowing aid to pregnant women but there you go. Such is the power of Isreal.

LittleMG · 14/01/2026 08:45

I’ve always really enjoyed using mumsnet but it’s become shocking when threads on Gaza come up. I find people’s opinions on how the people of Gaza should be treated shocking and upsetting. I took break from MN for this reason I see nothings changed.

GiantBranch · 14/01/2026 08:53

I find no one in my everyday life expresses similar views to the extreme posters on Mumsnet, most people are horrified by the death toll of the last two years and the continued suffering of Palestinians. Everyone I know wants pregnant women to receive adequate care so I console myself that the extreme views expressed on here are not representative of the general population. Who would deny care to pregnant women?

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ArabellaScott · 14/01/2026 09:08

GiantBranch · 14/01/2026 08:53

I find no one in my everyday life expresses similar views to the extreme posters on Mumsnet, most people are horrified by the death toll of the last two years and the continued suffering of Palestinians. Everyone I know wants pregnant women to receive adequate care so I console myself that the extreme views expressed on here are not representative of the general population. Who would deny care to pregnant women?

Disingenuous hogwash.

GiantBranch · 14/01/2026 09:14

no just thankfully my actual experience

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BIossomtoes · 14/01/2026 09:16

ArabellaScott · 14/01/2026 09:08

Disingenuous hogwash.

It’s disingenuous not to know people with no compassion? I don’t encounter this in my life either.

ArabellaScott · 14/01/2026 12:48

'most people are horrified by the death toll of the last two years and the continued suffering of Palestinians. Everyone I know wants pregnant women to receive adequate care so I console myself that the extreme views expressed on here are not representative of the general population. Who would deny care to pregnant women?'

I recant my assertion this is disengenuous hogwash.

This is offensive, disengenuous hogwash.

Genericfestiveusername · 14/01/2026 13:09

ArabellaScott · 14/01/2026 12:48

'most people are horrified by the death toll of the last two years and the continued suffering of Palestinians. Everyone I know wants pregnant women to receive adequate care so I console myself that the extreme views expressed on here are not representative of the general population. Who would deny care to pregnant women?'

I recant my assertion this is disengenuous hogwash.

This is offensive, disengenuous hogwash.

How could people being horrified at civilian deaths and the lack of maternity care be offensive?🫠

Clementi · 14/01/2026 13:17

Genericfestiveusername · 14/01/2026 13:09

How could people being horrified at civilian deaths and the lack of maternity care be offensive?🫠

I know! If only Hamas hadn’t carried out the massacre on Oct 7.

Genericfestiveusername · 14/01/2026 13:23

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Ellen2shoes · 14/01/2026 14:10

I feel the same as you @GiantBranch and @LittleMG.

I was shocked to the core the first time I read comments on a thread about Gaza. The sheer hatred on there aimed at Gazans, the facetious, glib and goady comments and the vitriol aimed at anyone who expressed concern was like a parallel dystopian Mumsnet. It shocked me out of over a decade of silence on here.
Mumsnet has changed beyond recognition.

Ellen2shoes · 14/01/2026 14:15

Genericfestiveusername · 14/01/2026 13:09

How could people being horrified at civilian deaths and the lack of maternity care be offensive?🫠

Parallel universe?

Twiglets1 · 14/01/2026 14:28

Ellen2shoes · 14/01/2026 14:10

I feel the same as you @GiantBranch and @LittleMG.

I was shocked to the core the first time I read comments on a thread about Gaza. The sheer hatred on there aimed at Gazans, the facetious, glib and goady comments and the vitriol aimed at anyone who expressed concern was like a parallel dystopian Mumsnet. It shocked me out of over a decade of silence on here.
Mumsnet has changed beyond recognition.

If you can find one thread where anyone directed hatred aimed at Gazans I would be amazed.

I've never known anyone express hatred towards ordinary Gazans, only Hamas & those that work with Hamas to help them achieve their terrorist goals.

FKAT · 14/01/2026 14:35

GiantBranch · 12/01/2026 23:02

So do you feel the IRC were correct in how they behaved during WWIi, do you disagree with their head when he said that by keeping silent they had failed in their duty as a humanitarian agency and had lost their moral compass? Do you think humanitarian organistions should always stay silent or only with regards to Israel?

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As the OP says: "Anyway the topic of this thread is preventing future harms and ameliorating a current situation not debating past events"

GiantBranch · 14/01/2026 14:43

Clementi · 14/01/2026 13:17

I know! If only Hamas hadn’t carried out the massacre on Oct 7.

Look at what you made me do, think we all can recognise this approach, particularly those concerned with coercive control

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Clementi · 14/01/2026 14:45

GiantBranch · 14/01/2026 14:43

Look at what you made me do, think we all can recognise this approach, particularly those concerned with coercive control

Glad you recognise Hamas had no justification for their actions.

Ellen2shoes · 14/01/2026 14:48

Twiglets1 · 14/01/2026 14:28

If you can find one thread where anyone directed hatred aimed at Gazans I would be amazed.

I've never known anyone express hatred towards ordinary Gazans, only Hamas & those that work with Hamas to help them achieve their terrorist goals.

The conflation of ordinary Gazans with terrorists is an ongoing process.

Twiglets1 · 14/01/2026 14:49

GiantBranch · 14/01/2026 14:43

Look at what you made me do, think we all can recognise this approach, particularly those concerned with coercive control

We are familiar with this approach - Hamas used it after all.

Twiglets1 · 14/01/2026 14:51

Ellen2shoes · 14/01/2026 14:48

The conflation of ordinary Gazans with terrorists is an ongoing process.

It's ok, I knew you wouldn't be able to link one thread where anyone directed hatred aimed at ordinary Gazans.

Ellen2shoes · 14/01/2026 14:56

@Twiglets1 Feel free to trawl back and take a look yourself. I’m certainly not revisiting for your benefit.

Twiglets1 · 14/01/2026 15:03

Ellen2shoes · 14/01/2026 14:56

@Twiglets1 Feel free to trawl back and take a look yourself. I’m certainly not revisiting for your benefit.

I'll pass on the grounds that I know it doesn't exist.

Ellen2shoes · 14/01/2026 15:10

When in doubt check it out. I don’t recall if you were on that particular thread.

Twiglets1 · 14/01/2026 15:45

Ellen2shoes · 14/01/2026 15:10

When in doubt check it out. I don’t recall if you were on that particular thread.

You were the one making a ridiculous claim so no I won't be reading every thread on the CITME board over the last 2 years to try to find something that you imagined.