Ice agent shoots woman in the face (pt 2)

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Renee Good. Proof the you can shoot someone and get away with it in Trump’s America.

Well, the full facts wont come out, there will be no full and independent investigation or a trial.

Once again, i don't know why you keep coming back to her activism.... its almost as if your victim blaming.

Nope. Neither of us was there. Both have got our information from newsfeeds. You’re stating the opposite of me as ‘facts’. Information out there indicates she was an activist, other info states she wasn’t, depending on where you get your info from. We will have to wait and see what comes out of this as the days progress.

Thanks for the link, I actually follow the nypost (I try to keep an open mind about souces). This is from that article:

Just as many others did in the lefty enclave, Good sent her son to Southside Family Charter School, a K-5 academy opened in 1972 which has from its inception been “unabashedly dedicated to social justice education,” according to co-founder Susie Oppenheim.

That is not a serious article or an independent source. It seems to exist purely for click bait and hyperbole.

Also I will add blocking with a vehicle isn’t ’peaceful protest’. Peaceful protest is sitting quietly with placards, or an organised picket line. Blocking with a vehicle puts road users at risk and acts a public nuisance. If ICE had been attempting to arrest a criminal, and they escaped due to this only to offend again, there would be consequences. Like the empty headed morons who blocked a plane from take off with a rapist and drug dealer on board.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/law/article/killer-and-rapist-were-on-blocked-deportation-flight-to-jamaica-cgl9f62wl?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqfW2cwopBTMJ9k3MOLIId5nmAlWufmTWwojUlkRNSjXB0fjtpC3ErVO&gaa_ts=6960cf9c&gaa_sig=szw3_qlYXbsHmfomoea_c74jNPi8Sd1ahXmh2q1CskuOR6zt2htDMN6gTjL6wn5QZUNY-aHiBs0L5vZXhKIUGw%3D%3D

Where is she blocking a vehicle?

No, if you read my posts I’m absolutely not victim blaming. I’ve repeated time after time that she didn’t deserve to be shot. I’m just correcting the statement that she was there not understanding the situation. What isn’t disputed is that her wife was there filming in the lead up to the shooting, on the pavement, which suggests to me that she was there as an agitator. What other reason could there be?

If we start shutting down the discussion because the opinions of MAGA are too unsavoury for us to bear, we leave nothing up but racist, hateful bile, which feeds into MAGA's belief that they are right in what they are doing.

Spot on, @Frequency .

That racist, hateful bile needs to be exposed for what it is.

Obviously not, but a pp had said she had just drioped her kids off and was not part of any protest. Peaceful protest is ok, being in a vehicle and acting in a way that armed officers believe to be a threat is not.

I literally saw someone being shot right outside my apartment block in HK during the protests. They didn't shoot to kill though (if it makes any difference), unlike in this case.

It is terrible and I despair. The photo of her with her husband is heartbreaking. Shows what happens if you mess with police/officials in the US.

Am I ‘MAGA’ because I think people who have no right to be in a country should be deported? Just for that belief?

I haven't put any words into anyone's mouth. I asked a question.

I didn’t say she was. If she was. Mrs B asserted she was protesting peacefully by blocking with a vehicle.

Even if that's the case SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SHOT IN THE FUCKING FACE

What other reason could there be?

Exercising her democratic right to protest peacefully and lawfully.

I'm pretty sure she was there to protest. Blocking roads for a protest is certainly irritating. I certainly don't appreciate it when people do it in Britain.

That still doesn't mean she deserved to die though, or in any brought her murder on herself.

Nobody has a legal right to obstruct a highway in the UK.

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1980/66/part/IX/crossheading/obstruction-of-highways-and-streets

This image is the one for me. She's about to start moving forward, wheels starting to turn to the right. ICE has already drawn his gun. He could have taken one small step to the side and been completely out of the way but he chooses to shoot her in the face instead and then shoot her twice more from the side through her open window. This was not a man acting in self defence. This was a man who felt that killing her was better than letting her drive away.
The fact that nothing will happen to him is truly sickening.

I’ve watched a number of the videos and really can’t see how she was threatening their lives, she was hardly driving at speed , the agent who shot her was not in direct line of the car and even if he was,at that speed, would he have been killed by the car, doubtful,they also clearly stopped anyone trying to help after she had been shot , what a sad awful place theUS is becoming

That's just a load of piffle from a conservative tabloid. According to the article, her son went to a 'woke' school, she lived on a street lined with lgbt flags and was some kind of 'lefty enclave' 😂 you want us to take this shit seriously? None of this is relevant, all it does is make it clear you have an agenda.

When will you realise, it doesn't matter if she was protesting or not. She didn't deserve to be murdered! End of!

You do like your caps and repeating where she was shot don't you? We know where she was shot. She shouldn't have being acting in a way perceived to be of danger or a threat to others.

She was there to protest. She was apparently part of a well organised and funded group. That does not mean she deserved to be shot dead of course, goes without saying surely.

The you'll be glad to know this didn't take place in the UK? 🤔

But the video evidence simply doesn't back up the claim that they believed her to be a threat.

I don't know if she was there protesting against ICE or not. I haven't seen any definitive evidence in either direction. But I don't think it's relevant in any case.

The important question is not why she was there in the first place, but why they shot her three times in the absence of any credible threat.

You do like justifying murder with bullshit dont you?