To think I can't trust a all drivers to stop at zebra crossings?

[pengwig]

Where I live there are 2 zebra crossings, once right outside a school and the other close by and so often drivers just don't stop for you. I go to cross and they don't slow down never mind stop. I am now in a situation where my trust in it is just gone and I feel like I am almost waiting until the driver has stopped before I even start to cross which I know annoys drivers but I'm fed up of being almost mowed down.

They don’t even stop when lollipop lady is in the road, every week she has a near miss normally from people who can’t be bothered to walk the 5 minutes to pick their kids up from school.

Had this too, one as a pedestrian with pram and one in the car with husband when there is a clear sign that says not to beforehand, both times some wanker in a white van.

I’d happily pay for cameras and push for stronger laws against such nonsense.

I think hi via needs to be a more frequent part of our wardrobes. If I ever started cycling on roads again, I’d be wearing a full illuminated coat and bike lit up like a Christmas tree.

The onus should be on the pedestrian crossing the road........Obviously, especially when the school zoos empty.

as a pedestrian I try to take the onus because I’m the one who will be injured if I get hit. However at crossings it really should be onus on the driver of a vehicle that can seriously injure or kill. I don’t drive, but when a pedestrian is steps onto a zebra crossing. I wait till the card or I think they have, but my sight isn’t very good and I might misjudge.

A very balanced view. My issue as a sometimes driver, is people that just dart out with no warning at all on crossings. Hence my reference to schoolkids amongst others.

In an increasingly selfish society where people seem to think about others less and less, the problems with zebra crossings is most likely another reflection of that. What I mean by that is that for crossings to work well (safely!) both pedestrians and drivers need to show intent. Showing intent is signalling to those around you what you intend to do next so those around you are aware (and if necessary can adjust their own actions). Unfortunately a significant proportion of people these days not only just can’t be bothered but I don’t think it even occurs to them that they’re not actually the centre of the universe and there are other people that might be impacted by their actions. Sad but true.

Where I live you have to be a bit reckless or the drivers would never stop. I give them a hard stare and step out a little bit, meaning I could jump back if necessary.

A lot of drivers don't seem to know how to drive any more.

You do realise that as a driver you're supposed to be able to read the road and anticipate hazards? A pedestrian crossing should make you think 'I may need to break as I approach if there are pedestrians'.

The fact that you are inattentive and bad at driving is a you problem.

The Highway Code is quite specific that drivers must stop if you are on the crossing and should stop if you are waiting to cross. Unfortunately as with much of-the code, far too many drivers have either never read it other than to pass there tests, don’t keep up to date with changes or more often , just ignore it. Personally never put afoot out until they’ve actually stopped, but even then there are idiots who will fly across when our in the middle of the crossing

Pedestrians should never cross the road within the zig-zag area. Drivers should stop at the broken ‘give way’ line (about 1 metre before the crossing) when pedestrians are using the crossing. You should give way to pedestrians waiting to cross and must give way when a pedestrian has moved onto a crossing.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/know-your-traffic-signs/pedestrian-cycle-and-equestrian-crossings

I’m in outer London where I’ve lived for many years and would say it’s becoming less common to stop. Drivers are definitely more inpatient in many circumstances. Pedestrians can be arseholes too running across as the traffic light is turning green and running across from behind at an angle to not miss the crossing window as lights are changing.

I’ve seen many a driver honking at other drivers for not carrying on through a crossing that has kids walking on it and not just about to leave it. Yesterday a van was honking at the kids crossing as with very bad planning the school near me now has one exit for students to the street so in chess of 1k kids start pouring out so you could be sat at the crossing for several minutes. Cars don’t want to wait so start rolling through trying to make the kids stop.

Would agree with recommending to our kids to get them to have eye contact with drivers, it’s a very good idea. With visibility for me some of the lights at these new crossings act as beacons to the crossing but it is actually at night very hard to see from any distance that someone is stood there all dressed in black but I’m looking for someone because of that.