Anyone watching Trump talk about invading Venezuela?

[mumofoneAloneandwell]

wow

no words

Absolutely. They get what they want and then leave!

Just like murderous dictators always do. And that’s good how? Trump has now greenlighted every other dictator who wants to do the same.

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Wow 😮

Yes. And the people of Iraq would probably agree with you too.

The most powerful country in the world helped Venezuela people yesterday get rid of their illegitimate president. It also happens that Maduro sent terrorists and criminals to the US like train de Aragua that made a lot of trouble and also trafficking of drugs. Venezuelan people inside and outside Venezuela are welcoming this. This is also to do as how Venezuela was harbouring terrorists organisations inside Venezuela. The US will help with the transition to ensure they are all out. Of course there is interest in oil. The regime members got very rich since Chavez got to power. Everything was stolen and not re distributed. As per socialism ideals. The only people making millions were the ones siding with the regime. Good riddance to Maduro.

Maduro had only 30 percent of the support in the last elections. He kidnapped Venezuela as a country, killed people either by starvation or oppression while siding with the worse regimes in the world.

Thank you for this.

Why then is Colombia strengthening security along its border with VZ in anticipation of an influx of refugees?

Currently, Venezuela still has an illegitimate President? What do you think about that?

Petro is a Maduro supporter. Are we supposed to believe this.

Well done for completely missing the point 👍

I don’t know enough about geopolitical situation in Venezuela to make educated comment

Given your assumption that you know the age of other posters, I suspect that this statement could be expanded beyond Venezuela.

Yes, you are on and on about this. Trump has clarified in the press conference that Delcy R following the law I’d the interim president. The US will be collaborating with the transition. Delcy Rodriguez probably will get amnesty and will live abroad as well as other bad actors of the regime. She probably sold Maduro. Who knows?. Maduro had 50 Millions for his capture on him. Details will come up during the transition. Maria Corina and Edmundo have welcome the news. I feel it would have been worse if they killed all of them. Maduro will come forward to incriminate the rest of them. It is not an easy situation to untangled after 27 years of being in power.

Yes, you are on and on about this. Trump has clarified in the press conference that Delcy R will be the interim president. The US will be collaborating with the transition. Delcy Rodriguez probably will get amnesty and will live abroad as well as other bad actors of the regime. She probably sold Maduro. Who knows?. Maduro had 50 Millions for his capture on him. Details will come up during the transition. Maria Corina and Edmundo have welcome the news. I feel it would have been worse if they killed all of them. Maduro will come forward to incriminate the rest of them. It is not an easy situation to untangled after 27 years of being in power.

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Please don’t tell me you’ve fallen for the Tren de Aragua line. Let’s look at the facts.

Tren de Aragua - 7,000 members, from a country that is not supplying most of the drugs to the US

Los Zetas - 20k to 50K members, supplying fentanyl which Trump claims to be SO against, and is the leading cause of drug death in the US.

So Trump invaded Mexico, right?

(sources: Wikipedia pages on each)

And we can’t really trust any source on Tren de Aragua members. The US claimed a man’s autism tattoo was a gang tattoo and sent him to CECOT in El Salvador. He actually survived and made it home. How many more innocent men didn’t?

If you support Trump, you support illegal military action, kidnapping, and murder. That’s all there is to it. All this so the Epstein files won’t come out, and America can have oil.

Source:
www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna201720

Why point I am missing exactly?

Fine you are entitled to your opinion. May be you should check the facts yourself. Mexico is not under a dictatorship afaik. This is about liberating Venezuela,

Uh… I provided facts for both of us. So the person who didn’t provide any sources tells the person who DID provide sources to check their facts. Let me guess, you believed Trump when he said they’re eating the dogs and cats…

Do you want a medal? Go outside Mumsnet and your echo chamber and see how you look with your opinions.

You edited after I replied and added the part about Mexico and Venezuela. Tell me, if it’s about “liberating” Venezuela, why is Trump installing Maduro’s second-in-command in power? Doesn’t sound like liberation to me. AND he’s denying the opposition leader, who has a 72% approval rating.
For sources, see my last several comments. I’m getting sick to death of people “arguing” from a base of either lies or nothing, so maybe enough MN for me today.

… my source is people on the ground in Venezuela. MN echo chamber 😂

EDIT: I haven’t seen such a bad faith, goal changing argument in a while though. You: “You should check the facts!” Me: “I gave you sources for the facts.” You: “… get out of the MN echo chamber!” Way to argue against those facts. No point in arguing with someone who is posting in bad faith.

What part of transition you do not get. Plus, how do think Venezuelans could have been liberated. Do you even care? I think you just do not.

Petro is left wing and not a Maduro supporter or ally. I am aware that he has been accused of being pro Maduro (which he has denied). He has chosen to take a nuanced, non-confrontionalist approach.

And Trump et al will definitely curate the reserves mindfully with climate harm reduction in mind 🤔