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To feel something like satisfaction that DH finally gets it (NAMALT)

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Playingvideogames · 01/01/2026 23:30

DH has always been a bit frustrating during our conversations about male behaviour. He accepts men commit the most crime, are more likely to walk out on their children etc but I got the impression he thought he and his (middle class) circle of friends were a bit above this. And that I was exaggerating when I said far more men were capable of shitty behaviour than he thinks.

Well tonight his friend of 30 years, who walked out on his wife and 2 primary aged boys last year (1 of whom has significant SEN), has announced his new girlfriend (who he has been seeing for 8 months) is 3 months pregnant and he’s ’ready for the best year ever’. This is when he is currently living in a house share, is unlikely to be paying maintenance (constantly talking about being skint), and it’s widely known his contact with his existing children is patchy. The friend is in his early 50s, and of course new woman is much younger at 38.

I told DH he would get the new girlfriend pregnant and see even less of his kids, DH said I was ‘thinking the worst of him’ and he would ‘get it together soon’. Tonight he’s admitted he’s shocked, and that he ‘never thought one of his friends could be like this’.

Of course I don’t like that somebody else’s misfortune has constituted this learning lesson for DH but there’s some relief he’s finally realised why I’m generally so pessimistic about men. Just needed to let that out somewhere!

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GhostsInTheWindowsAndWalls · 01/01/2026 23:38

What an arsehole. Is your husband going to remain friends with him?

One of my partners friends started cheating on his wife after 12 years together when they had a toddler and another baby on the way. My partner was disgusted and ended the friendship which I was very pleased about. He’s lost a couple of other male friends over the years for pointing out their misogyny which is a shame but it does mean that the few friends he has left are really good men.

Playingvideogames · 01/01/2026 23:48

I don’t think so, DH said he has felt the friendship naturally drift a bit over the last few months since they started dating but now has no inclination to save it.

I’ve said he’s not welcome in my house. I was part of a dynamic a bit like this when I was a child (I wasn’t part of the ‘new family’ obviously), so that’s probably partly why I feel so outraged.

It’s maddening how many men are green lighted by those around them to be such deadbeats. Their WhatsApp group is full of ‘congratulations’ posts, my blood is boiling!

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OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 01/01/2026 23:50

Is the issue that he had an affair?

As leaving someone is allowed.

GhostsInTheWindowsAndWalls · 01/01/2026 23:56

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 01/01/2026 23:50

Is the issue that he had an affair?

As leaving someone is allowed.

He’s not seeing his existing children regularly and has no money, yet has found time to is date and is bringing another child into the world meaning his existing children will get even less time and financial support. Do you not understand that those things are issues?

Playingvideogames · 01/01/2026 23:56

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 01/01/2026 23:50

Is the issue that he had an affair?

As leaving someone is allowed.

They didn’t have an affair (apparently).

The issue is him swanning off leaving his ex to do 90% of the care of their children, to date and get another woman pregnant in 5 minutes flat then making insensitive statements about how great their new life together will be.

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GKG1 · 02/01/2026 00:02

I showed my DH those video compilations online of women being stared at, like prey, by men on public transport. He was shocked and said he’d never seen that happen. I think it so important men have their eyes opened so they understand what women are actually dealing with.

Playingvideogames · 02/01/2026 00:07

@GKG1 I agree. It’s only when they are confronted with these things that they realise the scale of the problem. If it was a random school dad who had done this, DH would’ve shrugged and thought ‘not something that would happen among decent men like us’. It’s only now his trusted friend has acted this way that he’s realised it’s not just the ‘outward scumbags’ that can be so selfish/toxic.

And this friend very much projects the image of a good man - goes on Palestine marches, has been raising money for his new girlfriend’s favourite charity, is vocally ‘anti misogyny’ etc (I don’t want a debate about Palestine marches, I’m just explaining how he outwardly gives the image of somebody who cares about issues other than himself)

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Diarygirlqueen · 02/01/2026 00:31

His poor ex and kids

Dgll · 02/01/2026 01:42

I think men are generally far more aware of what men can be like than women are. I imagine listening to discussions on male behaviour could be rather wearing though.

Danceparty55 · 02/01/2026 01:48

It would be wonderful if your DH could respond on the WhatsApp “hope you’re okay. Must be a challenging time as you seek to step up for your kids in amongst the heartbreak of divorce, and now this unexpected news. How are the kids taking it? Do you have a house for you to have the kids overnight sorted?”

Gowlett · 02/01/2026 01:51

I know a guy who did this. New woman, two new kids. First two kids are teens now, and their mum (his ex-wife, together 20 years) is having to deal with the fallout at home. He still has his friend group, but I know a few of them are shocked at him…

canuckup · 02/01/2026 01:54

Amazing how these men can suddenly forget their primary school aged children in the blink of an eye and are super excited about bringing another child into the world???

What about those two poor boys you've abandoned, mate??

mathanxiety · 02/01/2026 03:12

GKG1 · 02/01/2026 00:02

I showed my DH those video compilations online of women being stared at, like prey, by men on public transport. He was shocked and said he’d never seen that happen. I think it so important men have their eyes opened so they understand what women are actually dealing with.

None so blind as those who will not see, eh..

InterestedDad37 · 02/01/2026 05:54

The friend sounds like a total arse. Your husband is slow on the uptake, and rather naive.

Playingvideogames · 02/01/2026 06:52

InterestedDad37 · 02/01/2026 05:54

The friend sounds like a total arse. Your husband is slow on the uptake, and rather naive.

I agree completely.

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Playingvideogames · 02/01/2026 06:54

Danceparty55 · 02/01/2026 01:48

It would be wonderful if your DH could respond on the WhatsApp “hope you’re okay. Must be a challenging time as you seek to step up for your kids in amongst the heartbreak of divorce, and now this unexpected news. How are the kids taking it? Do you have a house for you to have the kids overnight sorted?”

If he doesn’t say it I will (if I bump into him)

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FlyingApple · 02/01/2026 07:06

Everyone thought my dad was amazing, such a hands on dad who adored his kids (and we absolutely adored him)

Left for another woman and we could go a whole year at a time without physically seeing him when we were children. He'd blame my mum and us for why we didn't see him more often. No 50/50, no weekends etc

He got a much younger woman and had a baby.

Still says he loves us now. Erm, no.

TheaBrandt1 · 02/01/2026 07:14

My DH default is to think badly of men he doesn’t know. His friends are lovely gentle men none have binned their wives.

Hes in a sports club with lots of successful 50-60 something men. Many have dumped their same aged wives and teen kids and started new relationships with 30 somethings. Then the inevitable the younger women want babies so these men have to start all over again and there is considerable moaning and resentment to the other men at their club. DH has zero sympathy his idea of hell going back to baby led weaning and soft play years at 48.

DaisyDukesAuntie · 02/01/2026 07:32

What does NAMALT mean??

Golden407 · 02/01/2026 07:38

Playingvideogames · 01/01/2026 23:56

They didn’t have an affair (apparently).

The issue is him swanning off leaving his ex to do 90% of the care of their children, to date and get another woman pregnant in 5 minutes flat then making insensitive statements about how great their new life together will be.

Is the other woman pregnant?

GinnyMcAllisterEatsPie · 02/01/2026 07:39

DaisyDukesAuntie · 02/01/2026 07:32

What does NAMALT mean??

Not All Men Are Like That

Playingvideogames · 02/01/2026 07:40

Golden407 · 02/01/2026 07:38

Is the other woman pregnant?

Yes… read my OP…

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CheeseWisely · 02/01/2026 07:43

canuckup · 02/01/2026 01:54

Amazing how these men can suddenly forget their primary school aged children in the blink of an eye and are super excited about bringing another child into the world???

What about those two poor boys you've abandoned, mate??

Disgusting isn’t it? We know someone who declared all over social media how his baby being born was ‘the best day of his life’ and he’s ’the best baby ever’ and so on. I imagine his existing two children that he begrudgingly visits once or twice a year would be thrilled to see it 🙄

daisychain01 · 02/01/2026 07:49

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 01/01/2026 23:50

Is the issue that he had an affair?

As leaving someone is allowed.

The lack of critical thinking here is unbelievable.

TheaBrandt1 · 02/01/2026 07:51

Leaving your marriage- not great but of course allowed

Leaving your children leaving spouse to care for them and financially maintain them alone is despicable. Maybe he should use the time he spends on pro Palestinian marches seeing his children 🙄