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People who feel completely alien to you…

351 replies

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 30/12/2025 16:07

I’ll start - people who can’t wait to take the tree and decorations down on Boxing Day (or any time during the following very few days) and ‘have a really good clean’.

2nd (this’ll be popular on MN!) - people who don’t like dogs. 🐶❤️

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daisychain01 · 30/12/2025 21:23

GreenPoms · 30/12/2025 16:30

Often the behaviours of the people who are ‘alien’ to us are because of poverty or other things which the person has no control over.

100% - The sneery demonising judgemental tone on this thread is off the scale and quite frankly lacking in basic critical thinking.

People who actively dislike animals and would never own a pet of any kind.

People don't necessarily "actively" dislike animals, it's highly likely they don't want the complexity of animals in their home for a myriad of reasons, not least of all work commitments as in working 2 jobs on MW just to make ends meet, lack of space, lack of budget, to name but a few elements. Or the dog hair, mess and smell, when their life is overwhelming and exhausting because of the 2 jobs, lack of space etc.

these challenges do not make them the devil incarnate. Sneering at other people's choices and challenges and ascribing your own rationale and meaning to it is pretty shitty even by MN standards.

dynamiccactus · 30/12/2025 21:28

CanadianJohn2 · 30/12/2025 16:43

Everyone seems alien to me. Perhaps I'm the alien

Me too.

Someone said that people who don't have pets are alien. I don't mind cats so much but if you have a dog you are committing yourself to picking up its poo every single day for the next 10-15 years or so. That's alien! I don't think people would dislike them as much if their owners didn't feel they had the right to impose them on everyone else.

I also don't like people who dawdle. The rest of the world hasn't time to wait for you to faff.

dynamiccactus · 30/12/2025 21:30

People who actively dislike animals and would never own a pet of any kind

Actually you could argue that those who like animals are the ones that don't exploit them for their own emotional wellbeing. Most people have pets for their own enjoyment. Occasionally you might do it for the animal's benefit eg if someone dies or is ill and it needs looking after for a while (or indefinitely). But generally it's for the human's benefit.

Floraposte1 · 30/12/2025 21:31

People who don't read.
People living their lives entirely for social media and not even comprehending that they're doing so.
People who live for their next AI holiday and count down the days.
(The three above are usually the same people)
People who don't drink tea or coffee.
People who buy stuff from Temu.
People who don't have a broad routine for themselves or their kids (eg wake up times/bedtimes/meal times)
Women who want want the big wedding, baby shower, 'gender' reveal and then a planned 'birth experience'

dynamiccactus · 30/12/2025 21:32

LizzieVereker · 30/12/2025 21:08

People who go to the gym presumably to keep fit, but are so utterly desperate to park as near to the entrance of the gym as humanly possible, that they routinely take up blue badge spaces, staff spaces, spaces which are not actually spaces. And then sit in their car vaping for ages.

Agree with this one!

IllAdvised · 30/12/2025 21:35

dynamiccactus · 30/12/2025 21:30

People who actively dislike animals and would never own a pet of any kind

Actually you could argue that those who like animals are the ones that don't exploit them for their own emotional wellbeing. Most people have pets for their own enjoyment. Occasionally you might do it for the animal's benefit eg if someone dies or is ill and it needs looking after for a while (or indefinitely). But generally it's for the human's benefit.

Yes, I’m a strict vegetarian, near-vegan (and working towards it) but I’m not crazy about the ethics of pet ownership. I did look after a friend’s dog for a year after a divorce meant no one could take him, but only until he could be rehomed somewhere with other dogs.

dynamiccactus · 30/12/2025 21:36

Just thought of another - though they're not alien, they're just scrotes.

People who throw their litter out of the car instead of taking it home/to a bin.

itstooorangeyforcrows · 30/12/2025 21:42

People who are obsessed with food and eating out. It’s mostly just fuel to me.

itstooorangeyforcrows · 30/12/2025 21:45

joggingintherain · 30/12/2025 20:37

People who don't clean their houses properly on boxing day

People who don't like dogs.

Ew- both make my skin crawl

Clean their houses on Boxing Day? What’s the significance of that? Odd comment.

xAwaywiththefairiesx · 30/12/2025 21:46

Heyhelga · 30/12/2025 16:51

I've never met anyone who admits they like Mrs Brown's Boys

My sister loves it.

Worse than that -my IN LAWS love it and..
my HUSBAND WHO I LET SLEEP IN MY BED says he doesn't mind it and thinks "bits of it are funny"

Good god it's awful. The first time I saw it was at MILs house and they were all laughing and MIL kept looking around to see everyone's reaction. I pretended to laugh sometimes so they would think I was a miserable cow but the whole time I was thinking "what the fuck is this shite??" I wondered if it was just an Irish thing (MIL is Irish) but then remembered the Irish are funny and Father Ted is amazing so I was even more confused as to how the feck they came up with this.

When all the internet hate came out, I felt so relieved and validated.

xAwaywiththefairiesx · 30/12/2025 21:58

Ooh I've just thought of one that baffled me years ago. People that have "never read a book"

I was SHOCKED when I discovered, in my young adulthood, that there are people who have never read a book.

And I don't mean they're not readers, that they are not really into reading, I mean they've NEVER read a book from cover to cover, like EVER.

I thought reading books was just a thing that people did to pass the time, exactly the same as watching something on TV or seeing a film. It was honestly like someone saying "I've never watched TV".

And then what baffled me further is that people took my shock as condescending because reading (reading anything) is, to some people seen as some sort of high brow pursuit and they thought I was looking down on them by being so surprised and spluttering "you must have done!"

I'm still not sure I truly believe it.

Tryingnottobeamouse · 30/12/2025 22:00

People who see food as only fuel and don't get any pleasure from it

xAwaywiththefairiesx · 30/12/2025 22:00

dynamiccactus · 30/12/2025 21:36

Just thought of another - though they're not alien, they're just scrotes.

People who throw their litter out of the car instead of taking it home/to a bin.

There was a whole thread on this recently. Somone's short term boyfriend threw his empty drink out of the car window and the whole of mumsnet unanimously agreed she should LTB

ConnieHeart · 30/12/2025 22:01

xAwaywiththefairiesx · 30/12/2025 20:35

Oh!
Yeah, actually, you're right. I didn't even think of that, sorry 🤦

Some people will have bags with only a few changes of clothes in because they're only going for a short time 🤦🤦🤦

I feel stupid now. I tend to only fly if I am going for a significant amount of time. If I'm only going for a few days, I drive there

Overhead bag people do not just have stuff they need for the flight on them. They don't want to pay to check in their bag.

I feel like an idiot. I suppose that answers my "why do people queue up to get on first" question too 🤦🤦🤦

Not only that they don't want to pay to check in a bag, they might not need to. We went on a city break for 4 nights & I fitted in everything in a larger cabin bag. It still cost about £50 for both flights but slightly cheaper than checking a bag in & we didn't have to wait for our bags the other end

josephinejosephine · 30/12/2025 22:04

Fussy eaters. NOT people with allergies or intolerances, obviously. I had a brief spell where I could only eat cheese and crisps in pregnancy. Pregnancy also does not count in my alien world.

People who are mean/stingy/lack generosity of spirit. This is not about money btw.

People who are obsessed with material things. I find it sad and empty.

People who are not interested in other cultures. There are so many different ways to live life.

People who hoard. Hoarding terrifies me.

People who have a wealth base like family money or something. Even if they don’t have it themselves right now. Everything in life must feel different.

Trainsandcars · 30/12/2025 22:05

saveforthat · 30/12/2025 16:09

People who never ever eat out or order a takeaway.

People wno order takeaways regularly.

Bollocksmorelike · 30/12/2025 22:07

Adults who are always late, why haven’t you learned, why do you keep making the same mistake??
Anyone who is decorating and thinks that red paint will enhance a room/house… totally alien!
People who choose to get a pet but then don’t commit to making sure they give them the best life they possibly can.

xAwaywiththefairiesx · 30/12/2025 22:12

Bollocksmorelike · 30/12/2025 22:07

Adults who are always late, why haven’t you learned, why do you keep making the same mistake??
Anyone who is decorating and thinks that red paint will enhance a room/house… totally alien!
People who choose to get a pet but then don’t commit to making sure they give them the best life they possibly can.

I almost made a whole thread on people who are always late the other day. I still might.

I just don't understand how you can consistently be OK with leaving people waiting for you like that. Time is something we never get back and if I wanted to sit around fiddling with my phone for ages I'd do it in the comfort of my own home not sitting in a coffee shop, awkwardly glancing at the door and wondering if I should order another coffee. By the time you breeze in I'm relieved to no longer feel awkward and uncertain, instead of pleased to see you.

My sister is consistently late and once she was even late to her own daughter's birthday party & bringing her (child) daughter with her!! For 40 minutes people sat there and waited.

20 years on, and she's exactly the same.

Rosamutabilis · 30/12/2025 22:16

Thepeopleversuswork · 30/12/2025 20:33

I went to university. I’m on my third degree. I have friends who have Phds and friends who barely got GCSEs. My partner didn’t go to university.

I find the idea of gatekeeping your social circle according to the level of education received regressive, pompous and arrogant.

You’re also, by doing this, excluding large numbers of people who have had interesting lives and have different experiences and perspectives and depriving yourself of that perspective because your own status anxiety is more important than having an open mind.

Its a brilliant case study of how wanting to appear intelligent can make people behave in deeply stupid ways.

Edited

You're really getting exercised about something that I never even said.

I have never once said that I deliberately ( as you claim) exclude anyone who hasn't been to university from my social circles. I'm sure it's true that there are many interesting people who haven't.

I simply said that I don't know anyone socially who hasn't and given the types of people in my friends and family groups I would be highly unlikely to meet anyone who hasn't.

That's why I said I feel they are alien to me.

As someone with 2 degrees you can presumably see that those are two completely different scenarios.

A pp said that her social circles comprise solely of bar workers, shop workers etc and she only knows one person with a degree. Whereas those types of jobs are done by students in their holidays in my circles, no one has that type of job after graduating or makes their living doing them.

People are different but you don't seem to realise that. I hope you're as vitriolic towards people who don't know anyone with a degree, and tell them they're missing out on swathes of interesting people, as you have been to me when I say that, by the life circumstances I find myself in, that I don't know anyone who hasn't.

SereneCoralExpert · 30/12/2025 22:22

People who don't go on holiday
People who hate holidays

People who hate having friends

People who are stuck up and precious: the ones who never want to try something new or different, or put up with a bit of discomfort, who would never stay at somebody else's house because it might not be of their liking. It's completely alien to me.

SereneCoralExpert · 30/12/2025 22:25

That one will sound like a request to fight, but it really is not.

People completely alien to me are women who hate MEN, despite men, fear men and see them as a different species. I can't comprehend it. I judge PEOPLE, but a man is not a possible threat just because he has a penis. Neither is a woman an ally just because she's a woman.

ladygindiva · 30/12/2025 22:26

I agree... See also people who " don't watch TV" .....what?!?

ladygindiva · 30/12/2025 22:31

SereneCoralExpert · 30/12/2025 22:25

That one will sound like a request to fight, but it really is not.

People completely alien to me are women who hate MEN, despite men, fear men and see them as a different species. I can't comprehend it. I judge PEOPLE, but a man is not a possible threat just because he has a penis. Neither is a woman an ally just because she's a woman.

1: How many times have you been sexually assaulted? 2:And how many of these were committed by men? 3:And by women? I'll start...1:about a dozen times. 2:About a dozen...3: none
What I find weird is that you think a person who's been sexually assaulted at least a dozen times, all by men, is wary of men. That actually blows my mind. And to think that you have a problem with me being wary of men.... I would probably get a ban if I said what I wanted to so I'll restrain myself.

Duckiewasthefirstniceguy · 30/12/2025 22:43

xAwaywiththefairiesx · 30/12/2025 22:12

I almost made a whole thread on people who are always late the other day. I still might.

I just don't understand how you can consistently be OK with leaving people waiting for you like that. Time is something we never get back and if I wanted to sit around fiddling with my phone for ages I'd do it in the comfort of my own home not sitting in a coffee shop, awkwardly glancing at the door and wondering if I should order another coffee. By the time you breeze in I'm relieved to no longer feel awkward and uncertain, instead of pleased to see you.

My sister is consistently late and once she was even late to her own daughter's birthday party & bringing her (child) daughter with her!! For 40 minutes people sat there and waited.

20 years on, and she's exactly the same.

I really think this is cultural. In my culture, punctuality isn’t a ‘thing’. It just isn’t. When I moved to the U.K. and people got upset about timekeeping, it was one of my biggest culture shocks. 😅

SereneCoralExpert · 30/12/2025 22:49

ladygindiva · 30/12/2025 22:31

1: How many times have you been sexually assaulted? 2:And how many of these were committed by men? 3:And by women? I'll start...1:about a dozen times. 2:About a dozen...3: none
What I find weird is that you think a person who's been sexually assaulted at least a dozen times, all by men, is wary of men. That actually blows my mind. And to think that you have a problem with me being wary of men.... I would probably get a ban if I said what I wanted to so I'll restrain myself.

Edited

what I find weird is that you seem to think ALL women must have been sexually assaulted.

I am very sorry you have been in condition where you have been assaulted A DOZEN TIMES, that's a horrible number and unthinkable to be put through.

1: How many times have you been sexually assaulted?
none
How many times have my sisters been assaulted? none.
My girlfriends? none

So I can understand your point of view, but the majority of men haters are not victims at all. They just hate men.

Do I feel threaten when I see a man? No. A runner, a policeman, a fireman, an A&E doctor, a random bloke in the street, the security guard that's the only one left in the building when it's late? No. Do most women around me feel threaten? No.

Are men a different species and a threat?no, why?