Labour Voters. Honest question

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I’m not looking to start an argument on this subject. I know it’s a very heated and emotive topic.

I have strong views on political issues. What with algorithms and biased news organisations, it’s very easy to end up only seeing information that confirms what we already believe. Because of that, you don’t often hear the other side of the political divide.

I’m honestly curious whether those who voted Labour at the last General Election, for reference I did not, would vote the same way if there were an early GE in January, purely hypothetical of course.

If so, I’d really appreciate you sharing what you feel they’ve done right so far in their term. I’m asking as I genuinely want to understand different perspectives.

YABU - I would vote labour again
YANBU - I wouldn’t vote for them again (or ever have)

I don't vote for people on their capacity to care for the worst off. I vote for the party that encourages people to earn more, so they can pay more tax to help the vulnerable. Most of politics is about designing a machine for gathering tax so it can be spent or invested on your party's priorities.

Sharon Graham of Unite is saying this now to Labour: remove the Green energy tax burden from business so companies can afford to make things, and invest in UK defences to boost high-tech manufacturing jobs. Leonardo (formerly Westland Helicopters, in Yeovil) has been waiting 15 years to begin making the new helicopters the Services need. Whichever side of the political fence you sit, that's a shockingly long time to be kicking the can.

My ‘version of history’? You mean the factual representation of events? The one where Ed miliband stabbed his brother in the back?

This is the most ridiculous post I have read this year.
The level of cognitive dissonance showed by Tories is staggering
I am no fan of Labour but to claim that Labour never takes responsibility for anything after the last shitshow of a govt is quite extraordinary!

Pfft. Labour’s bankruptcy of the country in te 1970s and 1990s is conveniently forgotten. 🙄

You said you feel better off but don’t have any ‘facts’ to back it up (you put quote marks around facts for some reason). It’s just not a rational argument, nothing else I can really say to you other than your opinion is invalid.

In what sense was the country “bankrupt” in the 1990s ?

The one where Ed Miliband somehow forced Cameron to offer a referendum. Sorry to tell you that this is a strange fantasy of yours! Do you have a second job in Trump's department for stopping wars, by any chance?

This. And not just now. The Tories break everything every time they get in and leave it for Labour to fix. They haven’t even moved on to Labour aren’t fixing it quick enough yet. They are still on ‘look at all the problems’ while failing to mention they caused almost all of them.

The 'happened only in fantasy' sense. Again

There was a recession in the early and mid-1990s under the Tories, but things were looking up when Blair won in 1997. I think Denizen probably meant 2008, and the GFC, which was genuinely terrifying.

It would have to have been st some point between 97 and 99 in that fantasy since the Tories were in government for most of the 90s.

I voted ‘you are not BU’ but partly because I’m disappointed in the short term and if there was a ballot tomorrow I would vote Lib Dem (for the first time since I was 18 - I’ve always voted Labour). But there is still time for things to change. Too much disappointment and echoing reform values so far though

Your fantasy.

Really? There’s a reason Labour get voted out too. In the 70s and 90s.

It’s just how it goes the electorate votes them out when things feel broken, Labour isn’t immune to that.

I don’t know, but I have ample evidence that the Tories won’t. And that’s the right with its ‘senses’?!

Pffft. Black Wednesday happened when the Tories were in power.

And a global issue not caused by the Labour government and which we were recovering well from by 2010. Until some people decided to austerity the hell out of the country and grind the recovery to a halt.

As far as I remember that wasn’t the Labour government either.

Posting on social media that you only vote for who seems to care the most even if it makes things worse for you is text book virtue signalling. Do you not care about the people who are put out of work, the closed businesses, the farmers who committed suicide over the IHT, the increase in rents, the closure of 270 independent schools, the custodial sentences for Facebook posts, the low GDP growth, the people who can’t find jobs, the tax increases squeezing families, the fiscal drag until 2031, the open borders policies, blasphemy laws, the decolonisation of state school policies ?

Alistair Darling, then Chancellor, acknowledged that austerity was inevitable whoever was in power.

The Blair government was voted in at the end of the 90s after 18 years of Tory government. The misinformation on this thread is mind blowing.

Clearly the electorate don’t always think Labour are blameless. They get voted out for not doing well. They’re just a political party subject to scrutiny.

@CainsArm You asked for a single example, I gave you one, you’ve had two in fact, don’t go spitting your dummy now.

What? I never said ‘Ed Miliband somehow forced Cameron to offer a referendum..’.
Quite bizarre thought processes you have there..

She crashed the market with her budget, people are still feeling the effects

Great example of a better alternative

Reform will be Truss on steroids, even better

One example is because inflation is lower, when it’s actually higher. The other example is because you feel better off even though you have no ‘facts’.

You got me, your logic has defeated me ….Labour are doing an amazing job.