Labour Voters. Honest question

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I’m not looking to start an argument on this subject. I know it’s a very heated and emotive topic.

I have strong views on political issues. What with algorithms and biased news organisations, it’s very easy to end up only seeing information that confirms what we already believe. Because of that, you don’t often hear the other side of the political divide.

I’m honestly curious whether those who voted Labour at the last General Election, for reference I did not, would vote the same way if there were an early GE in January, purely hypothetical of course.

If so, I’d really appreciate you sharing what you feel they’ve done right so far in their term. I’m asking as I genuinely want to understand different perspectives.

YABU - I would vote labour again
YANBU - I wouldn’t vote for them again (or ever have)

Given that he has been re-elected repeatedly over the last 20 years, he must be doing something right for his constituents.

Wait, did you cry-laugh emoji ?!

I’m not on benefits but I am better off under Labour. Inflation is down, interest rates are down. These were on a rising trajectory under Conservative, they were also planning income tax increases.

Thats just inaccurate. Inflation was 2.1% when conservatives left office and is now 3.1%. https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices

Interest rates were in a downward trajectory since March 2024 and would have gone down faster if not for tax burden fed inflation (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98wyyk475no)

You've just demonstrated you are worse off under Labour using the exact measurements you claimed showed you to be better off.

I dont agree with every Labour policy or decision. However, in general they look to alleviate poverty, invest in public services and implement more progressive tax policies than the other parties that have a credible chance of being in goverment. Things are really challenging, but i view them as better than the alternatives.
In my consitiency it is a straight race between Labour & Reform. Labour dont try to stir up division or express the abhorrent views that some key Reform players do. Reform economic policy is Trussenomics on steriods. Reform's plan would weaken the economy further and cause untold damage to already struggling public services. People think things cant get worse - they can.

His competence is irrelevant. The mental contortions you have to perform to conclude he’s responsible for Brexit must be excruciating.

I do not want this man to be prime minister.
https://hopenothate.org.uk/2024/09/24/everything-you-need-to-know-farage/
Keir Starmer has not and would not express these views. That matters to me & influences my voting decisions.

Bless. It’s quite straightforward. I understand that as you’re a die hard Labour supporter (ref your post up thread saying you’ve voted for them every election), you’d never be able to contemplate thoughts that contradict your Labour view of the world. Cognitive dissonance and all that. Classic.

Eta: Aside from the other issues referenced, the fact remains that if Ed miliband hadn’t stabbed his brother in the back - Dave M would’ve won the election. We’d not have had a referendum. Kept it simple for you.

My view of the world is pretty objective or I wouldn’t be seriously contemplating a tactical vote at variance with my principles and values.

I think you might be playing pigeon chess.

Oh yes - I did read that too. I thought that was excellent. Not because it’s a Tory vote - but because it shows critical thinking.

I’m hoping reform fizzle out by the next election tho.

Of course you do. Because you don’t agree.

Oh do make up your mind. Critical thinking or cognitive dissonance (which doesn’t mean what you seem to think it does)? Which is it?

As a member of the Labour Party since 1979, I’ve since left and no I wouldn’t vote for them again with the present bunch of MPs and leader.

Not sure who I’ll vote for.

If David Milliband had won, I would probably have voted for Labour.

Same. And so would many others. 🤷‍♀️

I find it telling that apart from “Labour bad” you can’t give any examples of how the alternatives would be any better, and don’t even try let alone struggle to defend the Tories abject performance or explain Reform’s cloud cuckoo nonsense (understandable, no one could).
Fwiw, I’m not on benefits, and I, personally, am financially better off than I was 12-18 months ago, I’ve had a bump to my (teacher’s, ha) salary and, even without that, feel like money goes further now than it did before (of course, unfortunately I’m still not a net contributor, so realise my views are totally worthless and I should leave politics to the betters).
No doubt you will dismiss this and tell me none of this is a result of Labour’s actions, and sadly unlike you I don’t haven’t got a load of “facts” to hand to “prove” my opinions, so yes it might be a total coincidence. I don’t care, fact is right now Labour are in power and I’m materially better off, whether it’s by accident or design.

You actually display both.

You feel that you are better off but don’t have any facts to back it up? This is like the other poster who claimed they were better off as Labour decreased inflation when it’s gone up. You must understand why this is so frustrating for rational people? Facts are facts, what would you say to a student who couldn’t accept reality?

Actually, they don't do a lot for me either. But it isn't what they do for me personally that I vote for (often unlike Tory voters - who actively vote to be better off). I vote based on who cares the most and will do the most for those at the bottom of society.

You can’t run a country on virtue signalling.

Correct, but Labour are not doing that - unlike Reform who are obsessed with flags.

It so isn't virtue signalling. It's being civilised. Caring for the elderly, the disabled, children.

It's very very sad that you think anyone who cares about that is virtue signalling.

Hahahaha, definitely!

Ahh, so I see this is how you respond when someone gives you the very example you were demanding 🤣

Labour care about them? They’ve been forced to relook at WFA and welfare reforms.

I know Cameron was a terrible prime minister in myriad ways, taking the lazy privileged way out at every opportunity and leaving his unemploy able mate Osborne to wreak financial havoc, but to wipe out his chosen actions from your version of history is quite something. Still, typical Tories, never willing to take responsibility for anything.