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Labour Voters. Honest question

475 replies

Tryingtodobetter82 · 29/12/2025 23:46

I’m not looking to start an argument on this subject. I know it’s a very heated and emotive topic.

I have strong views on political issues. What with algorithms and biased news organisations, it’s very easy to end up only seeing information that confirms what we already believe. Because of that, you don’t often hear the other side of the political divide.

I’m honestly curious whether those who voted Labour at the last General Election, for reference I did not, would vote the same way if there were an early GE in January, purely hypothetical of course.

If so, I’d really appreciate you sharing what you feel they’ve done right so far in their term. I’m asking as I genuinely want to understand different perspectives.

YABU - I would vote labour again
YANBU - I wouldn’t vote for them again (or ever have)

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Trixibell1234 · 30/12/2025 12:34

TopPocketFind · 30/12/2025 12:26

Johnson did the lying all himself

Agree

Rusalina · 30/12/2025 12:37

Imbrocator · 30/12/2025 11:46

I find it hard to believe in Labour currently given the way they present themselves and the decisions they make. However I can’t honestly say I feel the other parties would do any better (likely they’d be much worse). Here are some issues that I feel were especially poorly handled:

  • Bridget Philipson’s delaying tactic’s and refusal to lay the updated EHRC guidelines before Parliament.
  • The greenlighting of solar farms on high grade farm land.
  • Labour’s rejection of a significant number of buildings being Listed.
  • Their proposed introduction of an Islamophobia definition.
  • The farmers’ inheritance tax.
  • The transition from EU farming subsidies to a sustainable model for UK farmers - lots scrapped.
  • Their delays closing loopholes that make the UK attractive to illegal immigrants.
  • Lowering of training standards and training time in trades in order to meet quotas, essentially impoverishing our trades in the long term.

There isn’t a single party that honestly and straightforwardly represents the issues I would be most likely to vote for (tackling climate change, protecting and improving the NHS, controlling immigration to prevent endless population growth, women’s rights, supporting farmers, protecting UK heritage), so it comes down to the question of which party is likely to do the least damage long term. Currently, despite my disappointment, it’s probably still Labour.

Ha, this is nearly an exact list of the issues I care about too. I rarely seem find people with the same combination of priorities/opinions as me.

I have always voted Labour, but I don’t feel particularly thrilled with them anymore. I feel quite politically homeless. However, if a GE was called right now I suspect they’d get my vote purely for lack of an appealing alternative.

Dragonscaledaisy · 30/12/2025 12:39

FerrisWheelsandLilacs · 30/12/2025 11:49

Genuine question - where did the 1,000 more GPs and 6,500 more teachers come from? Did we have this many qualified, jobless people before and now the new roles have opened they’ve all been filled? Or are there more open but unfilled roles?

These aren’t roles you magically fill out of nowhere so I always wonder how they can achieve this in 18 months,

They didn't. Those are just figures that were in their manifesto. Meaningless drivel.

roshi42 · 30/12/2025 12:43

What a heartening thread! Thanks for posting so goadily OP, and thanks for taking the time to answer seriously everyone. There’s a load of good stuff happening that it’s easy to forget and overlook. Plus some big mistakes too which have been well pointed out.

I didn’t vote Labour as I had to vote Lib Dem in my constituency to get the Tories out, and prior to that I was in Caroline Lucas’ constituency and voted for her - regardless of party I thought she was an excellent and valuable voice to have in parliament. But to answer the point behind your question - who would you like to see form the next government: Labour. Absolutely. Because the Tories and Reform are evil and corrupt and inept. And no one else is a serious contender.

At least with Labour I believe that there are serious people with half a brain at least trying to make things better for ordinary people rather than just getting as much as they can for themselves. Even though they are by no means perfect and I could moan about them for ages!

BoxesBoxesEverywhere · 30/12/2025 12:45

peacefulpeach · 30/12/2025 12:19

@MandingoAteMyBaby ‘Big improvements round here almost immediately.’

What are the immediate improvements you’ve seen where you live?

I'm not the person you're referring to, but I've also seen improvements around here, where I am.
Police on the streets, which I haven't seen for years.
Kind of nice and reassuring to have a "bobby on the beat" again, who you can pass "hellos" to as they go by.
Ringing up the doctors at 8am in the morning and actually getting an appointment for the same day instead of hearing "you are 29th in the queue" then when you eventually get through an hour or so later they've all gone and "ring back tomorrow" 🙄 for more of the same
Just two off the top of my head.

Livelovebehappy · 30/12/2025 12:47

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 30/12/2025 10:45

Yes I would- my only major disappointment of their term to date was rolling back of the winter fuel tax which I think should be tightly means tested. They’re making positive changes but decades of corruption, greed and lies take a while to fix

You are also referring to Raynor, Reeves, Mandelson too I'm guessing with the corruption and lies?

peacefulpeach · 30/12/2025 12:48

Dragonscaledaisy · 30/12/2025 12:39

They didn't. Those are just figures that were in their manifesto. Meaningless drivel.

💯 agreed. It’s like someone (forget who) in a newspaper article said recently - Labour politicians and people supporting Labour spout the same old shit slogans and statements, on repeat, with zero facts to back them up.

Slogans and soundbites like ‘smash the gangs’ and ‘end child poverty’ are designed to short-circuit thought and leave reason at the door. Used to tremendous success by the communists and nazis.

Embarrassing really. To say the least.

MandingoAteMyBaby · 30/12/2025 12:52

peacefulpeach · 30/12/2025 12:19

@MandingoAteMyBaby ‘Big improvements round here almost immediately.’

What are the immediate improvements you’ve seen where you live?

Our MP changed from a long-standing and particularly ineffective and absent Conservative to a young, ambitious Labour. Prescriptions are now filled faster, we suddenly got a whole load of roads resurfaced - even rurally. And building projects unstalled after years of NIMBYism.

Things started to actually change where they had been frozen in time with the previous guy.

Livelovebehappy · 30/12/2025 12:53

luckylavender · 30/12/2025 11:03

Slightly goady post I think but however. I’m a Labour voter and would definitely vote Labour and indeed Starmer again.
They've made mistakes and their Comms is not where it should be. They have also done a lot of good things.

But the right wing media is unforgivingly hostile.
Putting 14 years of carnage right is far from a straight forward task
No one is really questioning Farage, he’s allowed to lie with impunity like he always has
And no one really cross questions Tory ex ministers who suddenly have all the right answers

I have to say if anyone has received constant attacks and dirt digging it has to be Farage. It's really stepped up a notch in recent months. I think parties, particularly Labour, have been desperately trying to bring him down because they're panicking that the threat of Reform getting in at the next GE is very real. But unfortunately Labour have instead had to switch their focus to controlling corruption in their own party over the last 6 months.

Livelovebehappy · 30/12/2025 12:56

peacefulpeach · 30/12/2025 12:48

💯 agreed. It’s like someone (forget who) in a newspaper article said recently - Labour politicians and people supporting Labour spout the same old shit slogans and statements, on repeat, with zero facts to back them up.

Slogans and soundbites like ‘smash the gangs’ and ‘end child poverty’ are designed to short-circuit thought and leave reason at the door. Used to tremendous success by the communists and nazis.

Embarrassing really. To say the least.

'Smash the gangs' was never going work. Smash one and another dozen will pop up to fill the gap. Pointless drivel peddalled out to pacify growing concerns.

Happyher · 30/12/2025 12:58

I’ve voted unreasonable because there was a very similar post up earlier this week and I’m more curious as to why people keep highlighting the same question. I smell a rat There are polls and threads but also the peoples right to keep their vote private between them and the ballot box which is why the polls are often wrong

Dragonscaledaisy · 30/12/2025 12:59

BoxesBoxesEverywhere · 30/12/2025 12:45

I'm not the person you're referring to, but I've also seen improvements around here, where I am.
Police on the streets, which I haven't seen for years.
Kind of nice and reassuring to have a "bobby on the beat" again, who you can pass "hellos" to as they go by.
Ringing up the doctors at 8am in the morning and actually getting an appointment for the same day instead of hearing "you are 29th in the queue" then when you eventually get through an hour or so later they've all gone and "ring back tomorrow" 🙄 for more of the same
Just two off the top of my head.

Whereas elsewhere, the number of people waiting more than a month for a GP appointment has soared under Labour - far from reducing waiting times, they've achieved the complete opposite.

Twiglets1 · 30/12/2025 13:01

Happyher · 30/12/2025 12:58

I’ve voted unreasonable because there was a very similar post up earlier this week and I’m more curious as to why people keep highlighting the same question. I smell a rat There are polls and threads but also the peoples right to keep their vote private between them and the ballot box which is why the polls are often wrong

Yes people have the right to keep their vote private but no one's forcing them to click on this thread. Equally, people could vote on this thread but not comment and then their voting intention would still be private so I don't see the problem.

Dragonscaledaisy · 30/12/2025 13:01

Livelovebehappy · 30/12/2025 12:56

'Smash the gangs' was never going work. Smash one and another dozen will pop up to fill the gap. Pointless drivel peddalled out to pacify growing concerns.

It was absolutely hilarious when Stephen Kinnock tried to claim that Labour has already smashed 240 gangs on Question Time though.😂

peacefulpeach · 30/12/2025 13:01

MandingoAteMyBaby · 30/12/2025 12:52

Our MP changed from a long-standing and particularly ineffective and absent Conservative to a young, ambitious Labour. Prescriptions are now filled faster, we suddenly got a whole load of roads resurfaced - even rurally. And building projects unstalled after years of NIMBYism.

Things started to actually change where they had been frozen in time with the previous guy.

That’s great, for you and other locals. Sadly it’s down to a particular individual, which is so often the case in many areas of life.

SpinningaCompass · 30/12/2025 13:03

The right owns most of the major newspapers and news outlets ... not surprisingly, that distorts the public's perception of all things political.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 30/12/2025 13:04

letsallchant · 30/12/2025 12:26

The major reason for the Tories being labelled corrupt was the Labour campaign of lies

Now you're having a laugh. Contracts for their mates to make millions during Covid? Johnson and his dodgy Russian contacts, his parties, his putting some unknown young woman in the House of Lords? And that's the tip of the iceberg. They were labelled corrupt because they are corrupt, on a scale visible to Stevie Wonder. That's why they are polling at something like 5%

There isn’t a shred of evidence for any of that. (Apart from the world shattering allegation of parties 🙄).

Thank you for proving my point so effectively. 👍

Labour ran a campaign of lies. They have no complaint about any coverage of them.

Shellewriter · 30/12/2025 13:08

Chiseltip · 30/12/2025 10:42

Digital I.D
Pay per mile.
No more jury trials.
Cashless society.
State surveillance.

Absolute no chance.

Hopefully they will be wiped out in Wales next year, that might send them a message!

This. I'm utterly appalled. Took a chance on them and bitterly regret it.

rc22 · 30/12/2025 13:08

MidnightPatrol · 30/12/2025 10:56

They’re all useless.

This!
Would hate not to vote as people fought so hard for universal suffrage but beginning to think abstention is my only option.

The f* up that is Brexit (and I blame the tories for this entirely) is very difficult to fix.

Twiglets1 · 30/12/2025 13:10

rc22 · 30/12/2025 13:08

This!
Would hate not to vote as people fought so hard for universal suffrage but beginning to think abstention is my only option.

The f* up that is Brexit (and I blame the tories for this entirely) is very difficult to fix.

I feel exactly the same.

MandingoAteMyBaby · 30/12/2025 13:11

Shellewriter · 30/12/2025 13:08

This. I'm utterly appalled. Took a chance on them and bitterly regret it.

What new policy has Labour enacted that brings about a cashless society ?

MandingoAteMyBaby · 30/12/2025 13:12

peacefulpeach · 30/12/2025 13:01

That’s great, for you and other locals. Sadly it’s down to a particular individual, which is so often the case in many areas of life.

Well that’s kind of how our system works. You vote for your representative and pester them to improve local issues. That’s it.

EasternStandard · 30/12/2025 13:16

Shellewriter · 30/12/2025 13:08

This. I'm utterly appalled. Took a chance on them and bitterly regret it.

Hard to take but I doubt you’re alone.

Trixibell1234 · 30/12/2025 13:22

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 30/12/2025 13:04

There isn’t a shred of evidence for any of that. (Apart from the world shattering allegation of parties 🙄).

Thank you for proving my point so effectively. 👍

Labour ran a campaign of lies. They have no complaint about any coverage of them.

Do you feel that the PPE contracts during COVID were well-managed and handed out fairly, including the use of the VIP lane? Do you think any contracts were handed out because they were donors to the Conservative Party or friends of MPs - and if you do, that was ok?

peacefulpeach · 30/12/2025 13:25

MandingoAteMyBaby · 30/12/2025 13:12

Well that’s kind of how our system works. You vote for your representative and pester them to improve local issues. That’s it.

How does that work with Labours manifesto promises? And with the things they’ve done but didn’t mention in the manifesto?