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Labour Voters. Honest question

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Tryingtodobetter82 · 29/12/2025 23:46

I’m not looking to start an argument on this subject. I know it’s a very heated and emotive topic.

I have strong views on political issues. What with algorithms and biased news organisations, it’s very easy to end up only seeing information that confirms what we already believe. Because of that, you don’t often hear the other side of the political divide.

I’m honestly curious whether those who voted Labour at the last General Election, for reference I did not, would vote the same way if there were an early GE in January, purely hypothetical of course.

If so, I’d really appreciate you sharing what you feel they’ve done right so far in their term. I’m asking as I genuinely want to understand different perspectives.

YABU - I would vote labour again
YANBU - I wouldn’t vote for them again (or ever have)

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CainsArm · 31/12/2025 09:10

DeepBlueDeer · 31/12/2025 08:52

I can accept:

  • that unemployment is slightly up and Labour, and that's largely due to where they've decided to levy taxes and hinders growth.

  • that Labour's policy to make incremental steps that are consistent with decolonizing the education system is unduly rage inducing to some.

  • that "Rachel maths aside" is a good vibe.

But no, there still won't be any blasphemy laws.

I mostly attribute the fanatical hatred of a very moderate government, navigating a different period of the country, to absurd levels of hyperbole mixed with significant disinformation, peddled via right wing social and print media. Its positively batshit.

Whether or not you know what’s best for people if only they could see through the disinformation as you are able to. You must accept that it’s a minority view that education needs decolonisation? Or that it’s a minority view that laws that ‘touch’ on blasphemy are required? Or that unemployment should go up to increase benefit allowances? My question is do you think the Government have a mandate for this? I’d suggest no, which is the driver for the ‘fanatical’ hatred. Authoritarian governments will attract hate.

1dayatatime · 31/12/2025 09:38

TheRishi · 31/12/2025 08:39

I miss Rishi Sunak a lot. Kinda wish we'd just stuck with him. He wasn't perfect, but a lot better than the current lot.

Rishi Sunak was a decent honourable PM, however the damage done by his predecessors principally Truss and Johnson meant that he was given an impossible task and was in an unrecoverable position.

He was right about Labour and their tax rises. He suggested a form of national and community service, which was ridiculed by Starmer as "some kind of Dad's Army", only for Starmer to suggest a similar policy 18 months later.
He was criticised for "going to quit being an MP and leaving the UK when he lost the election", yet despite not needing the money he has stayed on as a decent local constituency MP.

Unfortunately he was the right guy at the wrong time, but the Tory party members inflicted this on themselves by choosing Truss who was easily and by far the worst PM in living history.

1dayatatime · 31/12/2025 09:53

As a former LibDem voter I am actually much more disappointed in them than Labour.

They have 72 seats (only slightly less than the Tories on 119seats). Yet their only policies seem to be "Trump is a really bad person " and "Farage is a really bad person".

Now I don't disagree with those views but as Kamala Harris clearly demonstrated you need a bit more in policy, other than not being the "other guy" in order to get elected.

They had so much electoral opportunity to make themselves relevant whilst Labour hashed the economy and the Tories were in post election turmoil but completely blew it.

I might strongly disagree with Labour policies but at least they are doing something. I will never vote for the LibDem's at the next election.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 31/12/2025 09:55

1dayatatime · 31/12/2025 09:38

Rishi Sunak was a decent honourable PM, however the damage done by his predecessors principally Truss and Johnson meant that he was given an impossible task and was in an unrecoverable position.

He was right about Labour and their tax rises. He suggested a form of national and community service, which was ridiculed by Starmer as "some kind of Dad's Army", only for Starmer to suggest a similar policy 18 months later.
He was criticised for "going to quit being an MP and leaving the UK when he lost the election", yet despite not needing the money he has stayed on as a decent local constituency MP.

Unfortunately he was the right guy at the wrong time, but the Tory party members inflicted this on themselves by choosing Truss who was easily and by far the worst PM in living history.

If Johnson had come clean about parties in No 10 he’d have gone down in history as a decent PM. But he couldn’t overcome the lies told by Labour about Covid PPE contracts. No matter how many court cases GLP lost nobody bothered to read the judgments. That nonsense carries on even today. It’s been raised on this thread.

And to be fair to Truss, her mistake was planning to spend too much too quickly, while cutting tax. It’s a funny old world when state handouts are appalling under Truss but virtuous under Labour.

TheRishi · 31/12/2025 10:05

1dayatatime · 31/12/2025 09:38

Rishi Sunak was a decent honourable PM, however the damage done by his predecessors principally Truss and Johnson meant that he was given an impossible task and was in an unrecoverable position.

He was right about Labour and their tax rises. He suggested a form of national and community service, which was ridiculed by Starmer as "some kind of Dad's Army", only for Starmer to suggest a similar policy 18 months later.
He was criticised for "going to quit being an MP and leaving the UK when he lost the election", yet despite not needing the money he has stayed on as a decent local constituency MP.

Unfortunately he was the right guy at the wrong time, but the Tory party members inflicted this on themselves by choosing Truss who was easily and by far the worst PM in living history.

This is what I feel as well. Sunak is a decent and honourable man.

1dayatatime · 31/12/2025 10:17

TheRishi · 31/12/2025 10:05

This is what I feel as well. Sunak is a decent and honourable man.

To be fair Theresa May was also decent and honourable although clearly made a dreadful mistake in going for a snap election.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 31/12/2025 10:27

TheRishi · 31/12/2025 10:05

This is what I feel as well. Sunak is a decent and honourable man.

I agree. I’d say he’s obviously a decent man. Not particularly good at politics, but decent.

But that’s no obstacle to MN’s Labour die-hards who invented all sorts of horrible conspiracy stories about corrupt dealings with his father-in-law and about his wife and their tax affairs. ‘Richi’ Sunak 🙄

EasternStandard · 31/12/2025 10:31

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 31/12/2025 10:27

I agree. I’d say he’s obviously a decent man. Not particularly good at politics, but decent.

But that’s no obstacle to MN’s Labour die-hards who invented all sorts of horrible conspiracy stories about corrupt dealings with his father-in-law and about his wife and their tax affairs. ‘Richi’ Sunak 🙄

Apparently no one uses names like this except for Labour.

They were wrong on him leaving after the GE too, said with such confidence.

Fizzink38 · 31/12/2025 10:31

Completely appreciate the comment about a right wing press, but it's important to be accurate about achievements. There haven't been 6,500 more teachers, nowhere near. It was an election pledge, now fudged to remove the 'new' element. They measure it on numbers of teachers in the workplace - which only shows an increase 1, 500 if you exclude primary teachers from the figures. It's actually 400 fewer teachers in the workforce.

I didn't vote Labour last time, will vote Green in the next election.

Barney16 · 31/12/2025 10:32

I'm a labour supporter but voted tactically in the last election to elect the Lib Dems and keep the Tories out. I would do the same again or vote labour if I thought they could win. Would I do the same again? Yes. I'm old and have seen the chaos of Tory governments and the prioritisation of the wealthy at the expense of those who aren't wealthy. Austerity was a disaster and inflicted untold hardship. There's no way I would sign up to support that even though I'm likely to be worse off under a labour government.

TheRishi · 31/12/2025 10:36

1dayatatime · 31/12/2025 10:17

To be fair Theresa May was also decent and honourable although clearly made a dreadful mistake in going for a snap election.

And not bothering to campaign properly

PandoraSocks · 31/12/2025 10:37

@Tryingtodobetter82 are you going to come back to the thread at all? People have explained their perspectives as you asked in your OP. What are your thoughts?

TheRishi · 31/12/2025 10:42

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 31/12/2025 10:27

I agree. I’d say he’s obviously a decent man. Not particularly good at politics, but decent.

But that’s no obstacle to MN’s Labour die-hards who invented all sorts of horrible conspiracy stories about corrupt dealings with his father-in-law and about his wife and their tax affairs. ‘Richi’ Sunak 🙄

As a British Indian and a proud Hindu I'm happy rishi and his wife's side of the family both have had successful prospering careers.

onho · 31/12/2025 10:43

MaryWelly · 30/12/2025 11:26

I wouldn't vote for Labour again - because they've taken my vote and used it to push legislation for Tory/Reform policies.

Look at their horrendous plans for the immigration system, stirring up racism and pandering to Farage.

Look at how long it took them to remove the two child benefit cap.

Credit to Ed Milliband and he is trying to take concrete steps to reduce climate change, but Kier Starmer has less commitment than even Boris Johnson on the green agenda.

Labour think they are shedding voters to Reform. They are ignoring the votes they are shedding to the greens - or even the Lib Dems!

This.

1dayatatime · 31/12/2025 10:45

TheRishi · 31/12/2025 10:36

And not bothering to campaign properly

Hmm fair point- if you want to win an election then it helps if you actually campaign for it.

TheRishi · 31/12/2025 10:57

The only thing I like is the fact that labour are now being harsh on the boat crossings. Need to go harder however.

TopPocketFind · 31/12/2025 11:02

PandoraSocks · 31/12/2025 10:37

@Tryingtodobetter82 are you going to come back to the thread at all? People have explained their perspectives as you asked in your OP. What are your thoughts?

So much for a 'honest question' Confused

ladygindiva · 31/12/2025 11:18

GIow · 30/12/2025 23:22

Isn’t it now costing the taxpayer more than it was - to pay the WFA to all but then to do the admin of clawing it back?

It wasn't being paid to all, only all pensioners . Poorer families / households were receiving nothing.

BIossomtoes · 31/12/2025 11:22

The admin is pretty cheap anyway, it’s done by changing tax codes.

peacefulpeach · 31/12/2025 11:25

A pp writes ‘credit to Ed Miliband as he is trying to take concrete steps to reduce climate change’. That gave me a laugh. A hollow laugh. The only thing Ed Milliband is good at is looking after himself. The whole climate change schtick is a con. They’re all making millions from us tax paying mugs. Well, us high rate tax paying mugs.

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2025/12/16/milibands-bunch-of-wallies/

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Miliband’s Bunch of Wallies

By Paul Homewood   h/t Philip Bratby   I see the idiot Miliband has excelled himself this time!    

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2025/12/16/milibands-bunch-of-wallies/

MandingoAteMyBaby · 31/12/2025 12:55

peacefulpeach · 31/12/2025 11:25

A pp writes ‘credit to Ed Miliband as he is trying to take concrete steps to reduce climate change’. That gave me a laugh. A hollow laugh. The only thing Ed Milliband is good at is looking after himself. The whole climate change schtick is a con. They’re all making millions from us tax paying mugs. Well, us high rate tax paying mugs.

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2025/12/16/milibands-bunch-of-wallies/

That’s a dumb personal blog using words like “woke” and “shill”.

Not even remotely credible. Transitioning out of the oil-age is essential. Change is difficult but necessary.

peacefulpeach · 31/12/2025 13:15

MandingoAteMyBaby · 31/12/2025 12:55

That’s a dumb personal blog using words like “woke” and “shill”.

Not even remotely credible. Transitioning out of the oil-age is essential. Change is difficult but necessary.

Ok Mandingo. I’d never use the word ‘dumb’ but each to their own.

peacefulpeach · 31/12/2025 13:18

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7406454622435049472/

Publicly accessible. How ‘dumb’.

Labour Voters. Honest question
MandingoAteMyBaby · 31/12/2025 13:43

You are the person who used “schtick”, “con”, and “mugs”. Cannot take you seriously.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 31/12/2025 14:43

Sunak =decent??!! Seriously his family, aka wife and father in law, rinsed the country and took what they could, she wasn’t even willing to pay tax.
As for May, a doubt a couple thousand Windrush descendants wouldn’t class as decent.