Why is Holly Ramsay covered with a tablecloth?

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Oh the arrogance of I’ve got TO KEEP MY DRESS from hoi polloi

Question is ....why isn't her da hidden under a tablecloth?

Daughter of shouty chef
Who gives a fuck!

Don’t worry, no one expected you to actually admit that if it is the case. Technically you are correct however, as it would envy, as opposed to jealousy. Considering the amount of threads on mumsnet from those struggling with that particular emotion, it is evidently not something exclusive to children. Not that I think it’s the sole cause of the spite, as I’m sure dour, culturally Protestant moralizing also factors into the equation.

I also had a small wedding, and smaller than yours by the sounds of it. So what? Having a small wedding is neither an achievement, nor inherently superior to a big showy one.

If you look at some of the more close up photos, the cape has a very pretty (IMO) collar. I’d say it probably is designer, and likely silk rather than satin.

‘If Holly had used a beautiful, tasteful and stylish designer cape it would have looked like part of the outfit’ - this is pretty subjective - maybe the bride thought it was beautiful, tasteful and stylish and as it’s her wedding day that’s all that really matters isn’t it?

Lots of mean-spirited folk on this thread.

Enough for a celebrity magazine to stump up money for an exclusive

I saw this with some classmates at my school. Not with all, but some. It’s why I also side eye ‘but we sacrificed so much for him/her!’, especially when it’s used as a weapon (and it invariably is).

There are parents of children talented as sport, and then there are sports parents. Sports parents are a different flavor of ‘stage parent’, and it’s about the ego of the parent, not the wellbeing of the child.

You’re right but the ‘greats’ & Olympians nearly always have these ‘Sports parents’, they don’t get there otherwise.

Someone will profit from selling photos of Holly's dress. If I were her, I'd sell the 'exclusive' too, just to have control over it if anything.

Well, with all that static electricity going on, I hope she stayed very far away from any naked Flames

I wouldn’t say ‘nearly always’. There’s a balance to be had, and there is a difference between instilling discipline because it is in the best interests of your child, and being a tyrant to the detriment of your child.

It isn’t unusual for the ones that use their children as a tool for their own benefit to find themselves estranged from that child in the long term.

What’s a ‘Sports parent’ by your definition, Serena & Venus’s father, Agassi’s parents, Ted Beckham? Often there’s someone exerting pressure & dedication others might deem to be unhealthy. To get to the very top I’d say it wasn’t uncommon for that to be the case. One person’s tyrant is another’s dedicated parent or coach.

Honestly I think Adam was their hoped meal ticket if they pushed supported him enough and he succeeded they would hopefully be set.

Apart from his sister who’s stuck by his side those who have spoken out seem to of made it about not being posh enough, not having enough money to travel, being on benefits, not got the right looks. They are making it all about wonga.

considering he did offer to buy her multiple dresses and paid for transportation to buy new dresses because she wanted to wear cream with navy accessories. Which also mil wants to wear cream to her child’s wedding 🫣😬

The fact his against children training as early as he used to shows he doesn’t like it and didn’t enjoy those training sessions that people like to go but she sacrificed for youuuuu.

The crucial thing is how much is actually coming from the child. Some children genuinely want to be a great sportstar, musician, actress, ballet dancer etc from early childhood and their parents are facilitating and nurturing the child’s full potential. In other cases it’s the parents’ dream the child goes along with.

I gave the example earlier of Vanessa Mae - she is very clear that while she enjoyed the violin, the full time commitment to it came from her mother. Vanessa herself wanted to go to school and have a normal life. She’s been no contact with her mother for years.

I knew ‘sports parents’ and in most cases the kid just didn’t have the passion for the sport that the parent did and to succeed you do need both passion and ability. Most of their sports ‘careers’ fizzled out in their mid to late teens

The ‘Tiger Moms’ argue that no young child will choose study or purposeful practice over play & if they want to be great & have superior opportunities this confers, they need to be pushed early on.The idea is that a virtuous circle then created & they never need to be pushed again. Or variations on this theme. An interest & ability grows.

It’s a rare 3 or 4 year old that decides to become a tennis great, a top musician or linguist & I’d say most have ‘pushy’ parents some who live vicariously through them. If an early interest genuinely shown they need the exposure to become great & I’d argue that points to the ‘interested’ parent. The Billy Eillots of this world vanishingly rare IME.

This is just a cheap, mean spirited quip aimed at a young bride on her wedding day. Are you generally mean spirited in your every day life? Or do you just save it for anonymous internet forums?

You’re thinking of Holly Peaty-with-Much-Maudlin in Leicestershire.

But she did. He's an ex Olympic swimmer. He's said himself that his family made sacrifices for him in previous interviews. Do you think every Olympic athletes family think they are a meal ticket? When you don't know at the age of 8 or 9 whether they are going to make it?

He's far more wealthy since he's been with Holly Ramsay - that was stated in the press a few weeks ago. His company is doing much better thanks to the Ramsays influence apparently - Gordon Ramsey mentoring him

As athletes go - there are a lot of them far better off than Peaty

He pays for his son and quite rightly so - did Eri think he was a meal ticket? Or is that just getting levelled at Caroline and Mark?

Do you know the sacrifices the Peatys made when Adam was growing up?

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I must admit I'd never heard of her before today, or the Adam bloke she married.
However, if Hello magazine is paying the couple, they ask for exclusives on the wedding dress and it isn't unusual for it to be covered up.

I think she looked lovely a Winter wedding is special. They are both Christians, so what’s unusual about getting married in a church ? The Abbey in Bath is beautiful, it’s a very spiritual and holy site.
I don’t get all this hate thrown at a young couple starting their married life together.

Ime if a young child has a genuine interest in something they will choose it over play, they will regard it as play as they love doing it. Starting young doesn’t have to involve hothousing.

Some children can show genuine interest and aptitude for things terribly young. It’s normal in many countries to start classical music or dance at the age of 3/4 but it’s done at the child’s pace; equally in alpine and Nordic counties it’s normal to start skiing as small children. Very few might go on to be Olympic skiers, mostly they’ll just be competent from an early age.

As another poster said, that is determined by whether it comes from the child or not. A sports parent, by ‘my definition’, is not a parent that supports their child, but a parent that uses their child for their own benefit to the emotional, mental, physical and/or financial detriment of that child.

Oh the abbey! And I suppose it probably wasn’t in the budget to get a car park built just for the wedding 😂