My house is haunted advice please

[saminamama]

Husband - 32 and an absolute scientist non believer
me also 32 and whilst a bit more open minded also a non believer

So my husband has been saying for months he thought I was on the landing and then found our no I wasn’t.. he saw a shadow on the upstairs landing and looked up to discover I was downstairs

didnt think much until both children were on my bed and then one of the picture hooks on a picture rail pinged onto the floor of its own accord the other morning now while it freaked me out.:: I didn’t think much and rationalised a mouse ./////

again didn't think much of it until the baby was crying this afternoon and I saw with my own eyes the outline of a man walk across the landing (looked like a shadow)

then this evening the lights (dimmer switch) were switching on and of and this happened about 20 times

not sure what to think

I heard they smoke Marlboro Frights

😂😂

I used to live in a 15th century house in Macclesfield which was supposedly haunted by the ghosts of two monks (there had been a priest hole in the house) - never saw or felt a thing out of the ordinary but my policeman dad visited once and never came back, the place really freaked him out. 😂

Find that fascinating. Must be an explanation as to why some people detect nothing whilst others have an extreme, visceral reaction like that.

It’s a Manor House. Built 14th century. The cellars and foundations pre doomsday
It’s an old hall house used by the Lord of the Manor as a court

People would come in the back stand in the hall and be tried and sentenced

From 1329 to Henry viii first wife it was owned by Queens of England passed down the line. Catherine of Aragon didn’t get it as Henry liked to lease property to his mates so from there in it was leased on payment of a Knights rose ( ie a promise to raise an army )

King John received the seal here when he was staying over whilst sacking a nearby Castle

Great history, listed and cold 🥶

🤣🤣🤣

Many years ago I was driving back late at night. Long long drive and I was really tired but had persuaded myself I could make it home. I suddenly saw a man jogging in front of me in the slow lane. Freaked out, smacked the brake, emergency stop, fortunately no one behind me (I was on a motorway!).

Realised that what I had seen was a static sign on a post and that I was so tired that my eyes were not working properly and could no longer make sense of stuff in the dark.

Pulled off at the upcoming exit, booked myself into a hotel (otherwise would have slept in the car). But the point I am trying to make is that a lot of the stuff people think are ghosts is to do with their assumption that their own sensory organs are accurate and objective and that they can predict exactly how objects will behave.

Neither of these things are true. Our eyes and ears can play spectacular tricks on us for all sorts of reasons including tiredness but not just that, and objects can be slightly unbalanced or internally unstable for reasons not remotely to do with the supernatural that we don't know about meaning that they can fall or move unexpectedly for no obvious reason.

I believe I had a haunted house once. It was beautiful, with a beautiful garden, the nicest place I've rented. But my first night there I was sitting with the light on in my new bedroom and I suddenly sensed this palpable evil presence. Then I began to hear loud, ragged breathing, coming from the bathroom. I just froze for twenty minutes, listening. Then I forced myself to get up and look. There was nothing in the bathroom, but as I poked my head around the door there was a loud thump on the staircase. I had a lot of nightmares in that house. Once I had the sensation of someone tapping me on the shoulder. In one of the closets were childish nonsense writing written in crayon on the walls. I noticed that in that beautiful garden, in the hedges were thousands of spiderwebs. My life seemed to all go bad in many ways over those months I was living there. I didn't stay there very long.

The house I nannied in was 100% haunted, one of the children got scared by inexplicable things they saw and small babies cried over the baby monitor when the children were older. I made a point never to look or listen too closely especially at night.

But why are the ghostly happenings so limited and similar? Knocking things over or turning off the telly.
Why don’t they ever do something useful like make dinner or tidy up or change the fuse?
It’s not really happening it just feels like it is. Humans are very suggestible. We have senses well tuned in to looking out for threats so it’s no surprising that sometimes we imagine they are there.

Amazing, l would love to live in a house like that...🙂

Some people are so in denial of the eventual oblivion of death that they will convince themselves any unusual creak or fart is something supernatural.

Straight talking! I like it.

So very true.

Your final ‘point’ is based on a fundamental mistake that keeps coming up on ‘woo’ threads.

It’s true that energy can’t be destroyed, it just changes form — but when someone dies, (1) their heat energy just dissipates into the cooler surrounding environment as the body cools (which is how time of death is estimated based on body temperature) and (2) the chemical energy stored in their body as bonds in certain molecules (sugars, fat etc) stays in the body and is consumed by fungi, bacteria etc as the body decomposes, or, if someone is cremated, is transformed into heat energy and lost to the environment.

Your energy carries on, yes, but is no longer organised as ‘you’.

Our consciousness is a function of brain activity. When that ceases, all the evidence is that we cease too.

Imagine an eternity of flicking someone's lights off, lurking in corners or treading on a squeaky step.

Give me oblivion any day.

Not to mention occasionally coming through to ‘mediums’ to tell them your name begins with M or possibly T, and to tell your niece/granddaughter/former neighbour in the audience, whose name begins with R or possibly L, that they live at number 29 and have bought a new sofa.

Riveting stuff.

You need an energy clearing. They cannot harm you but need to move on.

Pfft. You left out the moaning, the wailing, the chain rattling, the strange drops in temperature, the moving things on shelves pointlessly, and so on. There’s a whole repertoire of aimless activity to take part in for eternity.

Admittedly I’d rather be watching films, listening to music or reading books. But I guess the undead have to fulfil the terms of membership of the Federation of Ghosts, Phantoms and Poltergeists. It’s a closed shop.

My friend lives in a house where tradesmen have left because they were pushed but no one there and he has a ghost cat. He and his wife hear a cat going up the stairs and moving around upstairs. Also their real cat plays with something, presumably ghost cat. They just accept it

It could be caused by infrasound

Depends how you view death I suppose.

Believe what you want to believe

There have been scientific theory’s that have been debunked over the years. It isn’t that long ago that the scientific theory’s was that babies felt no pain so could be operated on without anaesthetic.

Anyone saying otherwise was treated like they didn’t know what they were talking about.

Yes-that’s what science is. It changes when new evidence emerges. That’s why it’s different to pseudoscience. Which doesn’t.

Absolutely. And if there ever comes a time when science proves the existence of ghosts I will happily accept that proof and change my view accordingly.

Ah, but didn’t you know that the mumsnet scoffers know everything?