Just been told to remove my pronouns from my Teams profile

[Horrace]

I'm weak 🤣
My manager just phoned me to say there has been some serious complaints made about me that he must urgently address.
I panicked.
In the Pronouns section of my Teams profile, I have

'Take a Wild Guess'

Its been there for a few years. Its finally been noticed and I've been told to take it down because it's made someone or more than one possibly, FEARFUL of me.

Obviously you have the right to believe what you believe, but as you say you are mocking them, you were opening yourself up to a disciplinary. Some companies take a dim view on mocking people, especially people with a ‘protected characteristic’.

Fearful?!? Change it to 'Take a Guess' - that should tone it down! 😂

And I agree with all of that.

None of it magically makes OPs behaviour professional or appropriate.

Everyone sucks here.

No it sounded like it was meant to imply paedophilia.

When you've been in the job market for a while you realise that popularity with those that count is far more likely to depend on the value you bring to the business and how well you facilitate your immediate boss than paying lip service to GI inclusivity initiatives. Unless the powers that be are particularly invested in trans rights (and let's face it, very few people genuinely are) then they're not going to take against an employee who makes them money and furthers the aims of their business for the good of the cause.

@EasternStandard yes not you.....apologies.. 💐

I think we tend to hear from the more combative individuals with more extreme beliefs. I know there are plenty of trans women who just want to quietly get on with their lives and would hate to make anyone else feel scared or uncomfortable. Unfortunately, these people are rarely quoted in the media.

Whether I am male or female? Don't be obtuse.

And to those saying "why does it matter?" Well sometime it doesn't matter - I don't know or care what gender, you, "TorroFerney" are as it's not relevant to my interaction with you.

But in a typical workplace where you might meet someone in person or on a videocall, or be referring to that person in conversation with others, it's a simple way to avoid awkwardness or offense.

Cultural sensitivity is a factor - it's well known to most people familiar with British names that an Alex or Charlie could be male or female, but might be less obvious if you're not. Similarly names from other national/ethnic/cultural origins may be obviously gendered to those who are familiar with them but other people may have no idea.

Others have said "it doesn't matter as it's obvious when you meet me" - well what if it's not obvious? What if you don't look or dress in a way which makes your gender apparent to the casual observer?

Oh but I do view it as buying into the ideology. If you’re bothered and you want to avoid confusion why don’t you just put Mr or Ms?

Yes, you're right.

It's definitely ridiculing people who use preferred pronouns, and quite rightly. Kudos to the OP.

It's time we all pushed back on this foolishness.

People cannot change sex.

But the OP presumably didn’t direct this at an individual person - she is mocking the idea of preferred pronouns.

Well, if you have a strong stomach and fancy doing a real deep dive you’ll discover that there too. There have been some recent cases where high profile trans activists have turned out to be pedophiles.

My pronouns are I/me.

If it matters to you, state them

dont insist they matter to others
dont force them on others

i will take she/her if its sex based but prefer he or they if its gender based

I completely agree that you don't sound scary. However, I just don't understand unnecessarily stirring up trouble with others about things that don't affect you. It would be one thing if you were riling up Nazis or something, but you're just riling up people who for whatever reason want to declare pronouns in Teams. Not exactly a fight that will go down in history.

I don't care to declare my pronouns either, so I don't. Seems a lot simpler and a whole lot more professional.

But if they use, and want others to use, the words that belong to the opposite sex then they are certainly engaging in deception.

Yes transwomen claim to be real women and biologically female (dr Theodore/Beth Upton under oath on the stand amongst others). Some even claim to have grown a cervix (Inda Willoughby) whilst simultaneously claiming that women are a idea in some man's head.
These men also claim to be lesbians and that any lesbian who refuses to date them are transphobic. Nancy Kelly when head of stonewall put out a tweet saying that anyone with a "genital fetishist" ie same sex and heterosexual people who wont date someone because of the genitals they have are no better than a racist.
We have also seen several pro trans groups campaign to change sex by deception laws to make it legal to lie about your sex to an intimate partner, whilst telling young trans identifying people to lie about their sex going stealth as they put it. A young man was recently jailed for going stealth with the young man he sexually assaulted

Of course it's interpreted as ridiculing those who share their preferred pronouns at work.
Those who share their preferred pronouns anywhere should be ridiculed at every opportunity.

I’m just going to leave this here:

https://fairplayforwomen.com/pronouns/

I’m guessing it will get deleted fairly soon, but hopefully some people will get to read it.

It was originally published on Mumsnet.

They? I have never met, or seen post/write, a trans person who genuinely thinks they are the opposite sex. Gender yes, but not sex. Yes I know some do, but it has got to be a very small minority

But those quiet, lovely TIMs still want to use the Ladies.
There is no "quietly" getting on with that.

You see this amazes me.

There would be no issue if these people would actually act as though they know what sex they are and respect single sex spaces.

The problem is that they don't.

Most managers want a quiet life where they get on with the business not sorting squabbles. Please don't be provocative in company time. Especially if you are right.
(just saying)!

I'm a Dr...does that help? No.

I'll accept that the popularity of including pronouns has risen with growing awareness of trans identities, but I don't think it's intrinsically ideological, you just think it so by association.

Meanwhile we in the Pronoun Brigade will laugh at MNers for being afraid of [checks notes] toilet brushes, builders, influencers, immigration, people knocking at their door, and their adult children doing literally anything without parental supervision. So we're even.