Just been told to remove my pronouns from my Teams profile

[Horrace]

I'm weak 🤣
My manager just phoned me to say there has been some serious complaints made about me that he must urgently address.
I panicked.
In the Pronouns section of my Teams profile, I have

'Take a Wild Guess'

Its been there for a few years. Its finally been noticed and I've been told to take it down because it's made someone or more than one possibly, FEARFUL of me.

How many peanuts does it take to stop a dish being "nut free" ?

How many males does it take to stop a female single sex space being that ?

We know what happens to women who complain.
We also know that women who are concerned self exclude from potentially mixed spaces.

"Pronouns in bio" should be history.

I’ve just had to go and have a lie down and book an emergency appointment with the crisis team

So you see my colleague as someone trying to mislead others. I think you are just as bad and aggressive as the TRA lobby tbh. Both sides are extremists.

Well they are misleading aren't they? Factually?

And you think me pointing that out is akin to this?

https://terfisaslur.com

Seriously?

And just to clarify @Cybiil do you think your colleague should be in women's spaces, or not?

The only person who has been hurling abuse today is you. It's getting boring as well as transparent. There's nothing abusive in pointing out that you aren't answering questions and that we know it's because if you do, you will say something that's absurd, reductive, sexist and instantly disprovable, because that's what it is when you say a woman is a person who carries out certain acts.

You must be so glad I'm here so you can deflect and fixate on accusing me of all sorts of stuff rather than have to actually answer anything. Unfortunately I'm going out soon so you'll need to come up with some other way to hide the fact that you won't give any answers beyond "You know what I mean".

It would seem that Cybiil’s considers the trans colleague to pass well enough to have earned the status of ‘woman’.

Obviously you can’t just let any man into this status. They need to pass well enough. So, who’s the judge of passing? You, Cybiil? What about the woman at the other desk? The one who recognises your colleague as a man, and therefore never uses the toilet at work. Why is she not the judge in this lovely little contest?

Knew someone would come back with that 😴

Yes, maybe you are.

I mean, let's try it. A woman is someone who wears dresses/speaks in a high voice/is sexually submissive/likes makeup/has enough fake boob to fool people. All those statements are absurd, sexist, reductive and instantly disprovable. If we make them slightly nicer, like a woman being someone who has a PhD, or loves animals, or is good with children, it's perhaps less offensive (kind of insulting to men, though) but it's still absurd, sexist, reductive and instantly disprovable.

It's not abusive to point out this inherent flaw in the philosophy. And it's not abusive to infer that demonstrating this flaw is the reason a person will not make any such clarification when asked how a man could live as a woman.

If an obvious come back bores you, then don't lay yourself so open.

Yes I think she should. I think of her as a woman.

Where exactly have i been abusive?

You think of him as a woman. But he isn't. Mother Nature didn't make him one.

So, why do you think you have the right to consent to his presence, on behalf of other women who want single sex spaces? Why does your option outweigh their's and the law?

And @Cybiil what other men do you think should be in women's spaces? What criteria are you using?

I understand the argument, but I also see how someone who does pass as a woman can not go into male spaces as they would turned away.

You've consistently ignored what I have said, like in this very post, to simply accuse me of being aggressive, going on the attack, throwing abuse and all the rest of it. It's obvious that you are using me as a deflection.

I'm not upset by it. It's just very very plain.

Would they? By who? Why can't we educate men that men can present in all kind of ways? Instead of making this a woman's problem?

Or campaign for third spaces?

Yes this is a good question and I do not have the answer for that. I agree we should have female only spaces, but I also see my colleague for example
as female, so I do not know what the solution is. It’s not black and white to me. Luckily in my workplace we have male, female and neutral toilets.

Well, that's really their problem; if they have modified themselves so much that they really truly can't be seen as their real sex, then this is a consequence of that for them, and something their doctors should ensure they are ready for. The obvious solution is third spaces but the clear consensus from the trans community is that this isn't acceptable.

Yes that is lucky. So why do your think your colleague belongs in women's facilities and not neutral ones, when neutral ones are provided?

Do you think its fair that your colleague who you feel is indistinguishable from a woman should use the womens toilets, and another TW who cannot afford surgeries and has the misfortune to have a very masculine face, build and voice, and could never pass, should not? Is your colleague more of a woman than this second TW?

You can have a go at defining 'living as a woman' without sounding absurd or sexist if you want? You seem to be avoiding the question.

Promise not to throw abuse at you.

Yes you’ve definitely given it back to me haven’t you. You’re so edgy and tell it as it is, just like the OP. Well done, you.

So men are allowed to turn away an unconventional man, but women are not?

Of course!