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Just been told to remove my pronouns from my Teams profile

817 replies

Horrace · 18/12/2025 10:11

I'm weak 🤣
My manager just phoned me to say there has been some serious complaints made about me that he must urgently address.
I panicked.
In the Pronouns section of my Teams profile, I have

'Take a Wild Guess'

Its been there for a few years. Its finally been noticed and I've been told to take it down because it's made someone or more than one possibly, FEARFUL of me.

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jeffgoldblum · 18/12/2025 16:31

SoulSearchBeHonest · 18/12/2025 16:29

Nope. I'm not cis or trans. Stop misgendering me. How dare you insist I am CIS or trans, who are you to tell me what I am.

YOU SAID "Either way, your gender identity is your decision and most people will be respectful and describe you as your prefer." So stop disrespecting me and trying to tell me I have to be one or the other, I don't. Practice what YOU preach.

Well said! 👏

SerendipityJane · 18/12/2025 16:33

The professional way of navigating this in the work place is to treat people as people

It'll never catch on.

Talkinpeace · 18/12/2025 16:40

Change them to
Fear / Ful

AnSolas · 18/12/2025 16:41

DurinsBane · 18/12/2025 11:28

Obviously you have the right to believe what you believe, but as you say you are mocking them, you were opening yourself up to a disciplinary. Some companies take a dim view on mocking people, especially people with a ‘protected characteristic’.

The OP if in the UK has a PC too.

So her employer would be much better off removing the now outdated point of conflict from their internal database rather than try build a case of why some freetext entry are allowed but others not allowed.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 18/12/2025 16:46

That's a petty niggle self-identifying as a serious complaint.

UncannyFanny · 18/12/2025 16:48

HeadyLamarr · 18/12/2025 10:12

Christ on a bike. "Fearful", my aunt fanny.

You called?

JellySaurus · 18/12/2025 16:49

justpassmethemouse · 18/12/2025 15:13

Equivalent would be “What is your religious affiliation”, where atheist is an acceptable answer, as is agnostic.

Not at all. The assumption that everybody is either cis or trans is exactly the same as the assumption that everybody is either Protestant or Catholic. The assumption that everybody has a gender identity is exactly the same as the assumption that everybody has Christian belief. ‘Either cis or trans’ does not allow for atheist (agenderist?).

Gender identity is a godless neo-religion. It is all based on unproveable belief and even has its own catechism.

AnSolas · 18/12/2025 16:53

DurinsBane · 18/12/2025 11:36

They? I have never met, or seen post/write, a trans person who genuinely thinks they are the opposite sex. Gender yes, but not sex. Yes I know some do, but it has got to be a very small minority

Have a look at NHS Fife case.

Upton the male doctor not only claims he is female but expects that if you attended the hospital and requested a female doctor that the staff member you made the request to would go and fetch him rather than and actual female doctor.

And the medical team he was training under and working with would have basically supported his action.

Its up to yourself to value the genuineness of that claim.

SerendipityJane · 18/12/2025 17:05

The assumption that everybody is either cis or trans is exactly the same as the assumption that everybody is either Protestant or Catholic.

There is the old story of a Jew stopped by some lads in Belfast:

"Are you Catholic or Protestant ?"
"I'm Jewish"
"Ah, but are you Catholic Jewish, or Protestant Jewish ?"

Which (like a lot of humour) contains a lot to unpick - touching on the sex/gender confusion.

Helleofabore · 18/12/2025 17:08

What keeps surprising me, when it shouldn’t really, is the lack of answer to the question of what other philosophical beliefs, in non-religious and non-politically driven environments, do those who support the use of wrong sex pronouns for a person who expects language for the opposite sex to be used for them (when they are materially not that sex) believe society should use the demanded language for?

What other beliefs do posters think society should be directed to act as if that belief is based on material reality when it is not? Or to use the language of a group’s philosophical belief as if that belief is a reflection of material reality?

SerendipityJane · 18/12/2025 17:11

Helleofabore · 18/12/2025 17:08

What keeps surprising me, when it shouldn’t really, is the lack of answer to the question of what other philosophical beliefs, in non-religious and non-politically driven environments, do those who support the use of wrong sex pronouns for a person who expects language for the opposite sex to be used for them (when they are materially not that sex) believe society should use the demanded language for?

What other beliefs do posters think society should be directed to act as if that belief is based on material reality when it is not? Or to use the language of a group’s philosophical belief as if that belief is a reflection of material reality?

How about time of day ?

I mean someone may say "Good morning", but what if it isn't a good day ? I could be triggered.

Helleofabore · 18/12/2025 17:19

SerendipityJane · 18/12/2025 17:11

How about time of day ?

I mean someone may say "Good morning", but what if it isn't a good day ? I could be triggered.

Nice. Does society try to tell you it is disrespectful to not use the language saying it is a ‘good morning?’

Stompythedinosaur · 18/12/2025 17:21

That's a pretty unprofessional thing to have on a work profile. Not surprised you've been told to change it. I'm not sure why you expected your manager to find it funny?

Ritaskitchen · 18/12/2025 17:23

Not terrifying but terfyfying 😆 What did you do?

SerendipityJane · 18/12/2025 17:26

Helleofabore · 18/12/2025 17:19

Nice. Does society try to tell you it is disrespectful to not use the language saying it is a ‘good morning?’

I don't know about society, but some people seem to get very vexed if you don't say "Good morning" back ....

DurinsBane · 18/12/2025 17:27

MrsOvertonsWindow · 18/12/2025 12:10

So what do you think politicians, transactivists and others really mean when they chant "Transwomen are women"?

They are sharing their opinion/idea of gender, not sex. I have seen trans groups say ‘of course we know we can’t change sex, we are saying we have changed gender’

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 18/12/2025 17:29

Horrace · 18/12/2025 13:34

By leaving my pronouns blank, all colleagues will now have to take a guess at my pronouns.

A wild one I hope 😂

Helleofabore · 18/12/2025 17:36

DurinsBane · 18/12/2025 17:27

They are sharing their opinion/idea of gender, not sex. I have seen trans groups say ‘of course we know we can’t change sex, we are saying we have changed gender’

Then I don’t think you have read or listened widely enough.

There are examples I can pull right now of male activists saying that they are female, biological female people even.

ThatBlackCat · 18/12/2025 17:37

DurinsBane · 18/12/2025 17:27

They are sharing their opinion/idea of gender, not sex. I have seen trans groups say ‘of course we know we can’t change sex, we are saying we have changed gender’

Some do. Ref Dr Upton.

Secondly, since womens spaces are sex-based, and since pronouns are a gateway into womens spaces, it should not be respected.

Just been told to remove my pronouns from my Teams profile
SabrinaThwaite · 18/12/2025 17:37

lifeturnsonadime · 18/12/2025 15:11

Well that's a load of bollocks.

Female pronouns relate to sex.

I refer to my golden retriever bitch as she/ her, she definitely does not have a gender!

But does she identify a food disposal unit?

Maybe her pronouns are dust/bin.

5128gap · 18/12/2025 17:45

DurinsBane · 18/12/2025 17:27

They are sharing their opinion/idea of gender, not sex. I have seen trans groups say ‘of course we know we can’t change sex, we are saying we have changed gender’

There are many trans people who believe it's possible to change sex. They believe that hormone treatment and the removal of their testicles alters their bodily chemistry so that the only difference between them and a 'cis' woman is their chromosomes, which they believe to be just one small and negligible thing.
Others believe surgical interventions are a 'sex change'.
Still others believe its impossible to classify human sex into male and female because our biology is 'too complex' so the only reliable way of identifying it is for the individual to tell us, because they will 'know' and if they say they are the female sex, they are correct.
Some do seperate sex from gender, but since the SCJ the focus on a serperate 'gender identity' seems to be waning in preference for arguments that sex itself is blurry, hard to define and changeable.
For some reason.

RessicaJabbit · 18/12/2025 18:02

5128gap · 18/12/2025 17:45

There are many trans people who believe it's possible to change sex. They believe that hormone treatment and the removal of their testicles alters their bodily chemistry so that the only difference between them and a 'cis' woman is their chromosomes, which they believe to be just one small and negligible thing.
Others believe surgical interventions are a 'sex change'.
Still others believe its impossible to classify human sex into male and female because our biology is 'too complex' so the only reliable way of identifying it is for the individual to tell us, because they will 'know' and if they say they are the female sex, they are correct.
Some do seperate sex from gender, but since the SCJ the focus on a serperate 'gender identity' seems to be waning in preference for arguments that sex itself is blurry, hard to define and changeable.
For some reason.

Probably the same ones that use our close relatives of clown fish being able to change sex so naturally, as we share so much in common with them, we can obviously do it too
Umm ,no, we can't change our skin colour like a chameleon can...that's ridiculous....and no, obviously we can't grow a new limb like the axolotl ...now you're being silly, we're a different species and biological class. Stop being such a terf and spreading such Literal Violence.
Now, getting back to clown fish, they can change sex, so naturally, so can humans. Read around ans so your research and you'll see it's perfectly possible. There's loads of research proving it. I would link some papers that are peer reviewed explaining all this, but it's so easy to find, just find it yourself.

TheKeatingFive · 18/12/2025 18:03

DurinsBane · 18/12/2025 17:27

They are sharing their opinion/idea of gender, not sex. I have seen trans groups say ‘of course we know we can’t change sex, we are saying we have changed gender’

Firstly, this isn't true as some definitely do claim to have changed sex. India Willoughby for example.

Secondly, why then is there any suggestion at all that 'transwomen' should have access to women's single sex spaces?

JellySaurus · 18/12/2025 18:04

Helleofabore · 18/12/2025 17:08

What keeps surprising me, when it shouldn’t really, is the lack of answer to the question of what other philosophical beliefs, in non-religious and non-politically driven environments, do those who support the use of wrong sex pronouns for a person who expects language for the opposite sex to be used for them (when they are materially not that sex) believe society should use the demanded language for?

What other beliefs do posters think society should be directed to act as if that belief is based on material reality when it is not? Or to use the language of a group’s philosophical belief as if that belief is a reflection of material reality?

Look up Lionel Rothschild (Jewish) and Charles (atheist). Not quite what you are referring to, I think, but definite parallels. Both were elected to Parliament but were unable to take their seats because the oath MPs of their era had to take was Christian. It took changes in the law for them to be allowed to take their seats.

I’m sure we all thought society had moved on from that. Transgenderism is clearly a retrograde move for liberality and inclusivity.

TesChique · 18/12/2025 18:09

Horrace · 18/12/2025 10:38

@whittingtonmum

I am ridiculing those that feel the need to tell us their 'preferred ' pronouns

And thats unprofessional of you.

Regardless of where you stand on this debate, ridiculing others in the workplace is unprofessional.

I assume by the fact youve been allowed to leave it blank that this isn't a mandatory obligation? (I wouldnt agree with this policy but as a grown up why not have a professional conversation about it?)

So youve taken it upon yourself to be a smart arse in the workplace and now are being reprimanded for it

Youre in your fifties, grow up.

Or stay on here basking in the "youre so great op omg" of your kin, whatever.