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Anyone worried about this new flu?

298 replies

Starrynight999 · 17/12/2025 08:16

So my kids in 2022 had flu A and my 2 year old got sepsis after being ignored by doctors s just a virus for a week after multiple trips, he recovered and he is ok.. skip to last year they then got flu A again a much milder strain but we’re still very poorly and now this year it’s everywhere again and seems to be an awful strain and I’m just dreading it.. before anyone says.. non of us are vaccinated we are to to date with all vaccinations and I’m really not an anti vaxer.. but I don’t know how I feel about the flu spray if I’m honest.. doesn’t look like they are working much.. I’m just also anxious about it.. how is everyone else feeling?

OP posts:
Sevenwondersofthewoo · 18/12/2025 15:39

miss79guided · 18/12/2025 11:04

Really are you a doctor ?

The immune system IS a great thing
> Everythin you NEED is already INSIDE you

Move MORE

Are you this stupid

Ebola kills regardless of your immune system, flu can kill to even in 2025

move more yeah you’re trolling

freakingscared · 18/12/2025 15:46

Sevenwondersofthewoo · 18/12/2025 15:31

Say what is this before or after the vaccine?

Personally I had a really bad experience with the vaccine so I don’t have it or give it to the kids anymore . The year we add the vaccine was the only year I ever got the flu

Merida46 · 18/12/2025 16:39

I'm not the slightest bit worried. 🙄

ChristmasMantleStatue · 18/12/2025 16:48

What a luxury to not be worried. As someone with numerous auto immune conditions and a clinically vulnerable disabled child I am always worried.

Not sure what the rolling eye emoji was for. Do you not 'get' that these things are deadly for others?

MrsTerryPratchett · 18/12/2025 17:17

freakingscared · 18/12/2025 15:46

Personally I had a really bad experience with the vaccine so I don’t have it or give it to the kids anymore . The year we add the vaccine was the only year I ever got the flu

Having a bad reaction is one thing.

It's quite another to imply vaccines gave you the flu. Do you believe this? Or are you just implying it?

freakingscared · 18/12/2025 17:39

MrsTerryPratchett · 18/12/2025 17:17

Having a bad reaction is one thing.

It's quite another to imply vaccines gave you the flu. Do you believe this? Or are you just implying it?

After serious research I do know it happens . That’s why immunocompromised cannot be around those that had the flu vaccine .I think it’s also pretty obvious that every year the flu vaccine is given in September and October and everyone has the flu end of October November

Pineapplehamonpizza · 18/12/2025 18:10

freakingscared · 18/12/2025 17:39

After serious research I do know it happens . That’s why immunocompromised cannot be around those that had the flu vaccine .I think it’s also pretty obvious that every year the flu vaccine is given in September and October and everyone has the flu end of October November

It's only the childrens flu vaccine that is live and yes it is correct that that can cause viral shedding which is detrimental to immuncompromised contacts. But as long as the child themselves isn't immuncompromised, it doesn't cause them to have flu. The adults flu vaccine is not live at all so cannot cause flu.

NiceCupOfChai · 18/12/2025 18:47

Nightmarenewbornnostalgia1 · 17/12/2025 14:16

If this is true and not a wind up then I totally understand your worry and your worry about vaccinating so want to reach out that you are not alone despite feeling like it on threads like these where people smugly pile on about vaccinating. It is only natural to feel worried about a virus that is heavily reported on and hearing all the effects on hospitals etc. The chances are you will be fine if you are not immunocompromised etc but it can be worrying the fear of the unknown and since covid I think people kind of hype up the drama of it all. Try to just not look at all the hyped up stories designed to make people comment the way they are on this about being "ridiculous for not vaccinating" and "no sympathy" etc as if you are a literal murderer for not vaccinating your kids. Nobody in their right mind does something to put their children in jeopardy so I know you will feel genuine fear around the vaccine and it is ok to refuse something you have fear about.
Just want to say I understand your worries and the only other things you can do are make sure you are eating well, vitamins and good hygiene and try and remember most young fit healthy people do not suffer serious morbidity. The odds are on your side although it doesnt feel like it when you hear all the horror stories. Hope you are ok. It is horrible to see people with nasty sentiment because you have chosen a different option regarding medical treatments and please know not everybody feels this way xx

But the root of her worry is not that she’s been whipped up by a “media frenzy”, it’s that her own child developed a life threatening complication of flu.

So you can say “the odds are on your side” as much as as you like but she’s been there, she’s had a child with sepsis secondary to flu. The odds are not on the side of small children, the elderly, or r the immunocompromised - these people are more likely to develop complications or even die of flu. That’s a fact, not anecdote or my fancy thoughts.

NiceCupOfChai · 18/12/2025 18:50

miss79guided · 17/12/2025 18:04

Let them build up their OWN defences
> The immune system IS a great thing
Caughs, colds ... get over them

Didn’t really work out for OP previously when her child caught flu and developed a life threatening complication.

Your opinion is dangerous.

Nightmarenewbornnostalgia1 · 18/12/2025 20:00

NiceCupOfChai · 18/12/2025 18:47

But the root of her worry is not that she’s been whipped up by a “media frenzy”, it’s that her own child developed a life threatening complication of flu.

So you can say “the odds are on your side” as much as as you like but she’s been there, she’s had a child with sepsis secondary to flu. The odds are not on the side of small children, the elderly, or r the immunocompromised - these people are more likely to develop complications or even die of flu. That’s a fact, not anecdote or my fancy thoughts.

She did say that. I would hope lightening didnt strike twice for the o.p.
Unfortunately it does for some.
I'm quite aware of the facts as is the o.p hence the reason for her worry. Other than the vaccine which she does not wish there are limited options to take.
I dont believe the media helps in these circumstances. Seeing frequent stories of sepsis etc which the o.p has endured first hand would naturally induce a more fearful response. I wouldnt consider this a fancy thought. Just a thought

Baninarama · 18/12/2025 21:34

freakingscared · 18/12/2025 17:39

After serious research I do know it happens . That’s why immunocompromised cannot be around those that had the flu vaccine .I think it’s also pretty obvious that every year the flu vaccine is given in September and October and everyone has the flu end of October November

Eh? I am immunocompromised and every year because of that I am given the flu vaccine. Yet I haven't had flu since I was about 22 (back when I wasn't immunocompromised) - by your logic I should be having yearly flu bouts and wondering where they came from 😂

Thistlewoman · 18/12/2025 22:09

Starrynight999 · 17/12/2025 08:16

So my kids in 2022 had flu A and my 2 year old got sepsis after being ignored by doctors s just a virus for a week after multiple trips, he recovered and he is ok.. skip to last year they then got flu A again a much milder strain but we’re still very poorly and now this year it’s everywhere again and seems to be an awful strain and I’m just dreading it.. before anyone says.. non of us are vaccinated we are to to date with all vaccinations and I’m really not an anti vaxer.. but I don’t know how I feel about the flu spray if I’m honest.. doesn’t look like they are working much.. I’m just also anxious about it.. how is everyone else feeling?

YANBU to be worried about the flu virus, it's very serious this year and your child has had a very bad experience of the flu previously.
But YABU by refusing to have the vaccine and refusing to let your children have the vaccine too. In fact - you are being VERY, VERY unreasonable about that.
What are you looking for on Mumsnet-sympathy?? Approval?? Well it's clear from the majority of replies that you aren't getting that, and quite rightly IMO. And your defensive replies suggest you only wanted to hear anti-vaxxers telling you that you are correct - so what's the point?

bonesandbooth2025 · 19/12/2025 00:38

Baninarama · 18/12/2025 21:34

Eh? I am immunocompromised and every year because of that I am given the flu vaccine. Yet I haven't had flu since I was about 22 (back when I wasn't immunocompromised) - by your logic I should be having yearly flu bouts and wondering where they came from 😂

They mean the flu nasal spray which is live and can shed but it’s not really an issue for people who aren’t immunocompromised
but that’s why I try and get my vaccine early and avoid small children (who are usually balls of germs anyway!)

SunMoonandChocolate · 19/12/2025 00:46

I'm VERY worried, as although we've both been vaccinated, my DH has spent the last 4 days in bed with flu, and has been seriously unwell. At one point he was struggling to breath, which was causing him to have panic attacks, but thankfully, after getting him to inhale Vicks in boiling water, I was able to calm him down enough to avoid a trip to the hospital. However, having ended up almost dying after getting flu previously, which then turned into double pneumonia and sepsis, I am terrified that I'm going to get it, even though we've taken all possible precautions. It really is a nightmare for anyone who hasn't been immunised, and has any vulnerabilities.

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/12/2025 01:56

freakingscared · 18/12/2025 17:39

After serious research I do know it happens . That’s why immunocompromised cannot be around those that had the flu vaccine .I think it’s also pretty obvious that every year the flu vaccine is given in September and October and everyone has the flu end of October November

Please don’t call googling things ‘research’

Unless you are conducting double blind, peer reviewed, experimentally controlled, placebo control group, randomised control trials… you are not ‘researching’ vaccines.

And the people that have done actual research, find that the flu vaccine (and the covid one for that matter) saves lives.

freakingscared · 19/12/2025 08:12

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/12/2025 01:56

Please don’t call googling things ‘research’

Unless you are conducting double blind, peer reviewed, experimentally controlled, placebo control group, randomised control trials… you are not ‘researching’ vaccines.

And the people that have done actual research, find that the flu vaccine (and the covid one for that matter) saves lives.

Edited

Must be the reason 50% of nhs staff in hospital actually doesn’t have it

Countrymaid · 19/12/2025 10:16

I’m still recovering and its lasted 2 weeks.However I am over 70 and feel that it could have been much worse if I hadnt had the vaccine.Have the vaccine.

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/12/2025 13:48

freakingscared · 19/12/2025 08:12

Must be the reason 50% of nhs staff in hospital actually doesn’t have it

But the higher the education level, the higher the uptake. Consultants’ uptake is far higher than non-clinical support staff. And they are the ones with no science background. Consultants are more likely to have more education in actual research methods.

What is your qualification to interpret research findings? I’m not being mean BTW, just trying to point out that understanding how statistics, research, data and significance work is essential. Just googling things that you think sound believable and not looking at the papers isn’t research and it is misleading.

If you read Bad Science by Ben Goldacre, he explains media and science reporting. It’s a good first step.

freakingscared · 19/12/2025 15:04

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/12/2025 13:48

But the higher the education level, the higher the uptake. Consultants’ uptake is far higher than non-clinical support staff. And they are the ones with no science background. Consultants are more likely to have more education in actual research methods.

What is your qualification to interpret research findings? I’m not being mean BTW, just trying to point out that understanding how statistics, research, data and significance work is essential. Just googling things that you think sound believable and not looking at the papers isn’t research and it is misleading.

If you read Bad Science by Ben Goldacre, he explains media and science reporting. It’s a good first step.

I have a PHD so I am not very convinced that is true . My ex husband worked for Roche too and hire high up ( I’m not saying doing what as he still works for them ) and that doesn’t men’s he takes all vaccines , quite the opposite .

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/12/2025 15:24

freakingscared · 19/12/2025 15:04

I have a PHD so I am not very convinced that is true . My ex husband worked for Roche too and hire high up ( I’m not saying doing what as he still works for them ) and that doesn’t men’s he takes all vaccines , quite the opposite .

A phd in what?

hurtsworse · 19/12/2025 15:26

I'm not worried, I've had the vaccine and am wearing a mask on public transport. Not much else I can do.

TheLemonLemur · 19/12/2025 17:29

My son had it and was really unwell with temp, hardly out of bed for a week. 2 weeks on and he is still very tired falling asleep straight after school I dread to think how much worse he would have been if he hadn't been vaccinated

Cathleeba · 22/12/2025 21:54

Just FYI, I know a wee girl who is in intensive care as thd flu virus attacked her brain. She is two years old.
Please take any precautions that you are able to.

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