Where have people's manners gone?

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Listed something for sale. Get a message saying it is available and what are dimensions. No hello? No please? Such basics.
Edited to add: the dimensions are already in the for sale advert.

My first part time job was in a chip shop and I was told to say please and thank you when serving customers, giving change etc. I also had a grandmother who was very strict with the formalities of please, thank you and excuse me. I still thank customers for their enquiry and their interest in my shop or items. However I dont grovel to clients. I do customer service, not servility. I am no one's servant.

I also do private tutoring and I prefer international students because they are so much more respectful and polite.

and there you have it.

On a side note, when you actually DO business, you have manners.

I do agree, especially the general public during shopping or whatever. IMO those who display most lack of manners are the elderly. That's what I've found anyway.

I see many people asking for all manner of things on Nextdoor and it is so rare for any of them to say please in their request (often for free things). It’s so rude and manners cost nothing.

Are you only polite to your mates?

Narrow country lane, just little me walking in one direction and three lads walking towards me spread out, none of them moved to one side for me. I wouldn’t move into the ditch for them!
I just don’t understand. I will always tuck behind a walking partner if someone is coming the other way on a narrow path, and am always happy to step into the kerbside for the more vulnerable. I’m sure fewer people do that now.

Some ad forums have automated replies. . They aren't full of manners just basic :
Is this still available-Type responses...

Oh me too! I’ve lost count of the amount of doors I’ve held open, only to have the CF sail through without a word or even eye contact. I often say ‘don’t mention it’! …as they clearly haven’t…

Do you not say thank you in shops?

I just delete folk like that tbh. It gives me CF rage.

OMG don't get me started on this sort of thing.
I was forced to walk into a road of traffic because a pair of mums with pushchairs would not walk in single file.

If me and DP are out walking and are on a narrow path, we go in single file to let people past.
Part of me wants to be like the chap in the The Verve music video... Bitter Sweet Symphony, and just barge into people instead.

Another one I like to say quite loudly is " well I'm pretty sure one of us should have said thank you there".
"Fuck you" said in a sing song voice with a smile sounds just like " thank you". I say that yo my cunty neighbours all the time

My husband will barge through groups of English language students moving around Oxford in huge groups in the summer. They bounce off him like skittles. I like to watch him work. Then I follow in the wake, like Moses at the parting of the Red Sea.

I wish I had the balls, I really do. If I send a 10 year old pinging off in front of a car, so be it.
But I just crumple up and act like I am an inconvenience, and fucking say 'sorry' when they walk past too.

You beat me to it, I was going to post this as I was also a Woolworth's Saturday girl and I remember asking people for their money with a please - and a thank you when they handed it over. Good days

Edited as ever for clarification

He's much taller than they are . If I'm on my own I've found that the most effective method is to walk on the inside of the pavement and stop just before they draw level. Look at them, smile but stand your ground. They have to go into single file because you are completely still ( and therefore balanced) and they simply have no choice. If you smile, force them to give way and then say 'thank you ' politely ( in a tone that suggests that they were obviously always intending to move aside because they are clearly polite and charming people and not actually arseholes) then it's really satisfying.

I was just discussing this with someone the other day, people seem so rude nowadays and it’s sad. Simple common courtesy’s have gone out the window. Some of the comments on this thread go show the mentality of people now and I imagine it’s only going to get worse. Just some basic politeness shouldn’t be too much to expect.

So you’ve never been outside aAnd entered a shop?

Yes I have. Cashiers just say what I need to pay. No please and thank you. I have not burst into flames in outrage yet.

Some people do this on ebay too. I just ignore them. If they can’t be bothered then neither can I.

Literally nothing sexier than seeing a grown man physically force himself forward in a race to the bottom of a cess pool of bad manners.

Because barging through’ll learn ‘em some manners eh? (sic before anyone corrects me)

On the whole I agree, lots of manners lost. But this thread where people enjoy out-bad-mannering people to show ‘em who’s boss only perpetuates it.

Amd here, after a few months absence / only dabbling in mn is why I, once again, skulk off it. The meanness of spirit, while at the same time criticising others for the same, is literally staggering.

“People are rude so I'm ruder back in pre-retaliation” 🙄

Like pp’s DH I also hold my line when faced with a group coming towards me taking up the whole pavement. Not for the bizarre reasons you’ve made up in your own head, but because why on earth should a single person be forced into the street because a large group are too rude to step aside and leave some room for them.

Not trying to teach them anything, not trying to pay them back, just quietly asserting my right to exist on my small piece of the pavement.

But by all means “skulk off” again because you’re attributing motives that aren’t there to people, no need to announce your intention.

There is an alternative! If there is a group taking up the whole pavement, I just stop dead. I don’t move, I don’t barge. I don’t say anything. I look bored. Then they usually just step around me with a confused look 🤣

I am also a passive aggressive “YOU’RE WELCOME”-r 🤣

I didn’t make it up. I quoted someone who “enjoys” watching her husband “barge through” grou ps and enjoys watching them “bounce off him like skittles”. Which is totally different from what you do. I do the same as you, hold my ground. I don’t barge and push deliberately though.or delight in it. That’s what gets my goat on threads like this.

You drew me back in by quoting me doddammit! 😁

I agree. And I have noticed it with school staff too - the lowercase messages and no basic politeness by some at pick up/ drop off.