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PIL appeared in the garden and started putting up lights

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JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 11:37

I wouldn’t have been at home but DS and I are ill. They would have known someone was in as my car is in the drive and lights are on but they didn’t knock or come in. I went to the driveway and called out for them when I saw their car but they were already round the back. I thought they’d come round to say hi, but they just stayed in the garden, so I went round to them. MIL said hello, but didn’t say what she was doing, so I asked what was going on. MIL said they’d promised 7yo DD lights for our garden 3 years ago and so now they’re doing it. FIL did seem a bit sheepish, but MIL just told me I looked shocked.

I don’t mind them putting lights up. I mind them not asking, even saying we’d love to put some lights up for DD, I would have said yes, thank you. It feels controlling. Obviously this comes with a history of incidents where I’m left feeling undermined or manipulated. I’d like to talk to them about just asking first. I think MIL didn’t want to ask in case we said no. I have tried to imagine how I’d feel if my parents had done this, but it’s hard to imagine as I know they wouldn’t just start doing things around my house without asking. I think I’d feel just the same though.

I messaged DH to ask if he knew and instead of replying to me, instantly went to the group chat with the four of us and told them to stop putting up lights. This isn’t really the way I’d have handled it, but I suppose I can’t complain because I told him what was going on and made it clear I was unhappy.

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SockFluffInTheBath · 11/12/2025 11:39

If my MIL had done that I would have thought she was doing a nice thing as a surprise for DC. Sounds like your relationship is not the same though. If you’d told them you were putting your own lights up and they’ve done this then it’s out of order. Is there a possibility is it just a nice thing they’re doing (but maybe got it a bit wrong)?

AmberSpy · 11/12/2025 11:41

No, this is really weird behaviour - keeping a promise they made three years ago to a (then) four year old who almost certainly doesn't remember? Letting themselves into your garden without saying a word? Bizarre and not appropriate at all.

ExtraOnions · 11/12/2025 11:42

Why did DH go directly to the ILs on the group chat ? He’s escalated it, unnecessarily … as well as infantilising you - as it sounds like you were skulking in the house, whilst they were still in the garden.

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 11:43

Yes I think it is definitely a nice thing done in a poorly executed way. They just needed to ask. Give a heads up. The way they behaved though when I “caught them” indicated that they didn’t want to ask, they didn’t want me to know about it at all. I wouldn’t have stopped them (I didn’t anyway), but it just felt weird and uncomfortable.

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PumpkinSpicePie · 11/12/2025 11:45

Weird not to ask

StarsTwinklingPomanders · 11/12/2025 11:45

Op so many in law issues could be avoided if they just bloody asked !!

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 11:45

ExtraOnions · 11/12/2025 11:42

Why did DH go directly to the ILs on the group chat ? He’s escalated it, unnecessarily … as well as infantilising you - as it sounds like you were skulking in the house, whilst they were still in the garden.

I don’t know why. He sometimes does overreact if I’m upset about something. Im not really happy with him either!

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PickledElectricity · 11/12/2025 11:45

Why now, after 3 years? Confused

Poor form imo, I wouldn't be happy with anyone doing anything to my property without permission, no matter how "nice" the gesture seemed.

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 11/12/2025 11:46

Sounds like a lovely surprise. Really captures the magic of Christmas.

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 11:46

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 11:45

I don’t know why. He sometimes does overreact if I’m upset about something. Im not really happy with him either!

Also, I was skulking in the house while they were still in the garden! MIL dismissed me with a “We’ll shout when we’re leaving.”

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onetrickrockingpony · 11/12/2025 11:51

Conversely, I think how DH managed it was fine. He took responsibility for handling it (and took off your hands), he went direct, and he made it clear it wasn’t acceptable. It also means that the in laws will take up their upset with him and leave you out of it. Well done DH.

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 11:55

onetrickrockingpony · 11/12/2025 11:51

Conversely, I think how DH managed it was fine. He took responsibility for handling it (and took off your hands), he went direct, and he made it clear it wasn’t acceptable. It also means that the in laws will take up their upset with him and leave you out of it. Well done DH.

Thank you, that’s interesting. Maybe that true. I’m feeling fraught about the whole thing so maybe that’s spilling into this.

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CuriousKangaroo · 11/12/2025 11:57

Sounds like they were trying to do a nice thing and planned it as a surprise. To be honest, I’d love it if PiL did that for me without letting me know - if I knew my PiL were coming round I would feel obliged to host them afterwards, whereas if they came and did it while I was out (which is what they thought they were doing) it would be a lovely gesture that wouldn’t have imposed on my time and energy for which I would have been very grateful.

onetrickrockingpony · 11/12/2025 11:58

He also used a WhatsApp group you were part of which was transparent to everyone involved and avoided having to have multiple communications and messages. Honestly, I don’t think he could have handled it better.

Changename12 · 11/12/2025 12:03

I think your DH handled it well. He was right to ask them to stop because they didn’t ask permission. If he said it is OK this time, they would do it again.

mediummumma · 11/12/2025 12:08

I’ve had similar OP - my PIL attached bird boxes to the trees in our garden without asking either of us. MIL lied when I asked what she was doing and said DH knew, but he didn’t. Yes, it was a kind thing to do and the only issue was them believing they were entitled to just do it because they wanted to. No permission required.

In your case a ‘surprise’ for the children was also a surprise for you, which it shouldn’t have been. It’s as good a time as any to remind them that the expectation is to just run things that involve your home/child by you/DH first. It sounds like your DH tackled it directly, which is the correct course of action imo.

And ignore anyone who says they’d be delighted with having their autonomy removed and boundaries disrespected in this way.

TorroFerney · 11/12/2025 12:13

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 11/12/2025 11:46

Sounds like a lovely surprise. Really captures the magic of Christmas.

What , trespassing? I’ve not heard of that being related to the spirit of Christmas.

Lairymary · 11/12/2025 12:17

And so did they stop and take them down? It sounds like a slightly misguided kind "surprise" for the kids but, yes I would get annoyed if someone started trying to call the shots on my own property with no consultation. Also at what point were they going to plug them in? Thanks PIL for adding to the electricity bill!

Pearlstillsinging · 11/12/2025 12:17

I don't understand why you didn't just ask "Why didn't you let me know you are here?", rather than involving DH by text. And as for the PP who talks about 'hosting' the PILS, surely you can put the kettle on and make a cuppa without making a fuss of the job.
I agree that PILs did an odd thing but then it was compounded by OP and DH actions.

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 11/12/2025 12:24

When she said 'you look shocked' what did you say?!

I would have said something like 'well, yes I am! I don't understand why you're doing this without discussing it first?!'

And I sure as hell wouldn't have been 'dismissed' from my own garden!

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 12:27

Pearlstillsinging · 11/12/2025 12:17

I don't understand why you didn't just ask "Why didn't you let me know you are here?", rather than involving DH by text. And as for the PP who talks about 'hosting' the PILS, surely you can put the kettle on and make a cuppa without making a fuss of the job.
I agree that PILs did an odd thing but then it was compounded by OP and DH actions.

I don’t know why I didn’t ask either. When they do things like this and I’m taken by surprise, I don’t always say what I wish I had. Even if I’d just said “Please ask me first before you do things around my house.” I think because they so obviously feel they don’t have to ask it feels awkward to point out that they should ask.

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Lobelia123 · 11/12/2025 12:28

I feel its rude and encroaching of them to have bypassed you completely. While a lovely thought, why now after three years??? And how can they possibly think its appropriate to enter your property without permission or even notice, and make changes without your knowledge? It would be the basest level of common courtesy to have run this past you. Its all very strange and I think the fact that your DH over reacted a bit i actually a good thing, it may make them think twice next time. All it takes is a quick message and an acknowledgement that this is their son and DIL's private property, their family home and that they (the parents) dont have carte blanche to let themslelves in and rearrange things without notice or permission.

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 12:28

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 11/12/2025 12:24

When she said 'you look shocked' what did you say?!

I would have said something like 'well, yes I am! I don't understand why you're doing this without discussing it first?!'

And I sure as hell wouldn't have been 'dismissed' from my own garden!

I did actually say, “Yes I am! I think you’d be shocked if I appeared in your garden doing things.” MIL replied “I’d just say how nice, thank you!”

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labamba18 · 11/12/2025 12:31

I think you should go round to your mil’s with the ugliest looking gnomes you can find and start arranging them in her garden.

Also another one here for your DH doing it right! They sound bonkers

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 12:32

labamba18 · 11/12/2025 12:31

I think you should go round to your mil’s with the ugliest looking gnomes you can find and start arranging them in her garden.

Also another one here for your DH doing it right! They sound bonkers

Yes! And she’ll just say, how nice, thank you! 😂 I’ll tell her the DC will love seeing them when they’re visiting and that’s why I’ve done it!

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