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PIL appeared in the garden and started putting up lights

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JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 11:37

I wouldn’t have been at home but DS and I are ill. They would have known someone was in as my car is in the drive and lights are on but they didn’t knock or come in. I went to the driveway and called out for them when I saw their car but they were already round the back. I thought they’d come round to say hi, but they just stayed in the garden, so I went round to them. MIL said hello, but didn’t say what she was doing, so I asked what was going on. MIL said they’d promised 7yo DD lights for our garden 3 years ago and so now they’re doing it. FIL did seem a bit sheepish, but MIL just told me I looked shocked.

I don’t mind them putting lights up. I mind them not asking, even saying we’d love to put some lights up for DD, I would have said yes, thank you. It feels controlling. Obviously this comes with a history of incidents where I’m left feeling undermined or manipulated. I’d like to talk to them about just asking first. I think MIL didn’t want to ask in case we said no. I have tried to imagine how I’d feel if my parents had done this, but it’s hard to imagine as I know they wouldn’t just start doing things around my house without asking. I think I’d feel just the same though.

I messaged DH to ask if he knew and instead of replying to me, instantly went to the group chat with the four of us and told them to stop putting up lights. This isn’t really the way I’d have handled it, but I suppose I can’t complain because I told him what was going on and made it clear I was unhappy.

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snowibunni · 11/12/2025 12:33

I also think DH did the right thing. He has your back. And is obviously annoyed with his parents. The only thing is that it would be very easy for PIL say that they didn't see the text until after they'd finished putting up the lights. The are being very cheeky.

They probably thought they'd get the lights up without you seeing them although how the lights would be explained I dunno as they weren't anything to do with you/DH.

Iloveleaveinconditioner · 11/12/2025 12:34

Omg, my blood is boiling on your behalf OP. Probably because my MIL is intrusive and overbearing and would no doubt do the same thing if she had a chance!

So rude to not stop and explain what they were doing and ask if it was okay. So rude to not message you and your DH beforehand to ask if it’s okay. There’s so many boundaries being blurred here. The posters telling you it’s not a problem are batshit, or utter doormats.

I actually think your DH did the right thing! Did they stop putting up the lights when he asked? He might’ve been better to phone them and ask why they hadn’t asked first, but really, they needed telling.

I think I would message and say thanks for putting up the lights, but please ask first before they do anything to your home/ garden.

BMW6 · 11/12/2025 12:36

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 12:28

I did actually say, “Yes I am! I think you’d be shocked if I appeared in your garden doing things.” MIL replied “I’d just say how nice, thank you!”

Like Fuck would she! 😂

Absolutely do the Surprise Gnome delivery to their garden.

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 12:40

Iloveleaveinconditioner · 11/12/2025 12:34

Omg, my blood is boiling on your behalf OP. Probably because my MIL is intrusive and overbearing and would no doubt do the same thing if she had a chance!

So rude to not stop and explain what they were doing and ask if it was okay. So rude to not message you and your DH beforehand to ask if it’s okay. There’s so many boundaries being blurred here. The posters telling you it’s not a problem are batshit, or utter doormats.

I actually think your DH did the right thing! Did they stop putting up the lights when he asked? He might’ve been better to phone them and ask why they hadn’t asked first, but really, they needed telling.

I think I would message and say thanks for putting up the lights, but please ask first before they do anything to your home/ garden.

I don’t think they will have seen the message until they left, their phones would have been in the car I think. They have not reacted to the message. I don’t think they will. Not sure what they’ll say to DH.

I’ve decided that I want to speak to them myself too though. Things like this have happened regularly for 20 years and I don’t want to continue like this. Most of the time, I appreciate them and get on fine with them, then something mad like this will happen and I hate it.

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IsItSnowing · 11/12/2025 12:50

They clearly have no respect for your privacy. It's not normal behaviour to turn up at someone's house and start putting lights in the garden unless you've asked them first.
I don't really think your DH overreacted. He let them know he wasn't happy with the situation. If you don't call them out they'll keep doing it.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 11/12/2025 12:52

onetrickrockingpony · 11/12/2025 11:51

Conversely, I think how DH managed it was fine. He took responsibility for handling it (and took off your hands), he went direct, and he made it clear it wasn’t acceptable. It also means that the in laws will take up their upset with him and leave you out of it. Well done DH.

Nah, they will blame DIL

Fedupofwimps · 11/12/2025 12:57

Are the lights still in your garden?
I would box them up and return them if they are.

Shedeboodinia · 11/12/2025 12:58

How weird.
I don't understand why they didn't message on the group chat seeing as you have one.
It would have taken two minutes to ask and explain the reason.
Would you have said no? It would seem like a weird thing to say no to aswell.

Diarygirlqueen · 11/12/2025 13:03

I would be raging if my ils did this, however, I also think you are bring childish by just not asking them why are they doing it without your permission.

Whereismyfleeceblanket · 11/12/2025 13:05

What next? Letting builders in to convert your airing cupboard to an en suite because dd said she'd like one?. Sprinklers. Or a big bloody ddog!! Would have served them right if ndn had called the police....

TomatoSandwiches · 11/12/2025 13:07

It's like they don't think of it as your house op, it's their sons and therefore they don't need to ask you for permission.

Weird and rude.

Calliopespa · 11/12/2025 13:08

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 11:45

I don’t know why. He sometimes does overreact if I’m upset about something. Im not really happy with him either!

I think in fairness op he is trying to unequivocally back you up - and when DH don't, they get a lot of flack on here.

But yes, it did seem quite a full-on response and I have to say with both the PIL's behaviour and his reaction, I cannot help wondering if you can be a tricky character? Hard for us to say, obviously, but I guess worth thinking about?

Calliopespa · 11/12/2025 13:09

BMW6 · 11/12/2025 12:36

Like Fuck would she! 😂

Absolutely do the Surprise Gnome delivery to their garden.

No, a giant inflatable light up Santa.

Tryingatleast · 11/12/2025 13:10

You say controlling, I say oh my wow they are epic in laws and grandparents!!! Wish they’d come over here!!! Go easy on them op!!

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 13:14

Calliopespa · 11/12/2025 13:08

I think in fairness op he is trying to unequivocally back you up - and when DH don't, they get a lot of flack on here.

But yes, it did seem quite a full-on response and I have to say with both the PIL's behaviour and his reaction, I cannot help wondering if you can be a tricky character? Hard for us to say, obviously, but I guess worth thinking about?

There’s no reason to believe me, but I think part of the problem is I’m not tricky enough! They knew I wouldn’t say, hey, why didn’t you ask? They thought they could do what they want and I would be too polite to say you should ask first! I don’t think if they thought I was a difficult person they would have continued despite knowing I was there, they were depending on me to put up and shut up, which I did.

We could have just had a pleasant chat about it if they’d asked and weren’t actually in the middle of doing it when I found them.

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JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 13:15

Tryingatleast · 11/12/2025 13:10

You say controlling, I say oh my wow they are epic in laws and grandparents!!! Wish they’d come over here!!! Go easy on them op!!

I won’t be hard them. I am just going to calmly say that the lights are lovely, in the future you need to ask before you add or remove or change things in our house.

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ginasevern · 11/12/2025 13:17

They should've pre-arranged this with you or at least knocked at your door and explained what they were doing. That's just common courtesy. But if they are generally OK and you get on "reasonably" well with them I would've probably let it go. However, your DH has now rather blown that up. I mean, good for him taking your side but it does leave an awkward situation, especially with Christmas coming.

myhaggisblewup · 11/12/2025 13:25

AmberSpy · 11/12/2025 11:41

No, this is really weird behaviour - keeping a promise they made three years ago to a (then) four year old who almost certainly doesn't remember? Letting themselves into your garden without saying a word? Bizarre and not appropriate at all.

They sound like Frank and Marie from 'Everybody loves Raymond' that is funny but irl I think their dil Debra would have put them under the patio as Marie micromanages her two adult sons, marriage /relationships.
A lot of MNer would do well to watch this for the ils from hell.😁

MummaMummaMumma · 11/12/2025 13:32

Maybe they they'd save you a horrible task and give your daughter a wonderful surprise.

CasperGutman · 11/12/2025 13:33

DH going straight to the group chat to tell them off has a similar vibe to their putting lights up without asking in the first place, somehow. A person gets the idea from a conversation that someone else would like them to do something, which is nice in itself, but then instead of letting you know what they're planning they jump straight into action.

If ILs had said "We remember DD saying she'd like lights in the garden and we were thinking of putting some up, what do you think?" that would have been normal and thoughtful. But just turning up and starting to install them is weird and controlling. Similarly, if DH had said "Gosh, what a weird thing for my parents to be doing, shall I tell them to stop?" that would have been supportive, but jumping straight in looks, well, a little bit weird and controlling.

Christmas2025 · 11/12/2025 13:34

It's tricky and if it was a one off I'd have let it go because it's something you don't mind, but with the history of them treating you with disrespect, they've created a situation where your DH didn't really have much choice in a way. Letting it go means accepting disrespect and neither he nor you should be doing that, especially when it's a pattern. They knew darn well it was disrespectful hence FIL looking sheepish and MIL trying to brazen it out and make out you're the weird one for being shocked. You're not. They've so obviously come over hoping you'd be out and they could do it unchallenged.

It's not the putting up lights that's the problem (although it would be if you then had the effort of taking them back down again, and while you're ill too, if you didn't want lights), it's the disrespect that's the real problem. Feeling confused etc is because they're gaslighting you. You know they're in the wrong but they're making you doubt yourself by openly or covertly saying/acting like you're the one in the wrong. It's not wrong to expect to have control over your own home and life.

Not wanting to be told no isn't a reason for them to go behind your back with anything. You've every right to say no and they shouldn't be taking that option away from you. What they want isn't more important than what you want, especially when it relates to your home, your family yourself and your life.

Your DH had your back and there wasn't really any way he could do that without telling them to stop. Anything less would not have been seen by them as you two standing up to them, but as them getting their own way and you two tolerating it.

They're unreasonable people, trying to reason with them about their bad behaviour isn't going to work. Asking someone who doesn't respect you, to please respect you, doesn't work. They're not going to listen because they're not respectful people!

The message has to be sent by your actions, which means stamping on anything remotely disrespectful. That's the only way they'll stop acting like this. They still won't respect you but their behaviour might change if you give them solid consequences for their actions. In this case, they wanted to put lights up, they acted disrespectfully = no lights. Or you put your own up.

When they've acted like this, you can't let them carry on, you'd be sending them the message it's ok if they disrespect you. They're like toddlers who need it made crystal clear that disrespecting you isn't an option and will never be allowed.

They're literally emotionally/psychologically stunted in their development and can't be treated like normal adults. This doesn't mean it isn't their fault, it very much is. They're not so stunted that they don't know what they're doing is wrong and even if they were, you still don't have to put up with it! They're manipulative and that takes both effort, the intelligence enough to be so sly and a desire to manipulate someone. It's really nasty, however much they smile while they're doing it. Watch your back, because they're they type to metaphorically stick a dagger in it when you're not looking. They might be your in-laws but they aren't your friends.

GreenCandleWax · 11/12/2025 13:35

Fedupofwimps · 11/12/2025 12:57

Are the lights still in your garden?
I would box them up and return them if they are.

Definitely dump them back in their box when you have finished with them. And contrary to another pp's advice, DON'T thank them! Why would you do that?

Twinkylightsg · 11/12/2025 13:37

Did you tell MIL? That's a really nice gesture, however why are you sneaking around to do it? Why not just tell us?

InterIgnis · 11/12/2025 13:39

The bypassing you and taking it upon themselves is weird, even if well meaning. They can surprise your daughter with them without leaving you in the dark. Pun unintended.

Whether or not you should escalate really depends on the lights. Warm white? Okay, draw a line under it. Cold blue flashing ones? Fake your deaths and move house.

TheTaupeScroller · 11/12/2025 13:39

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 12:28

I did actually say, “Yes I am! I think you’d be shocked if I appeared in your garden doing things.” MIL replied “I’d just say how nice, thank you!”

She's deranged! Good on you and good on your husband to tell them to stop - even if it wasn't exactly your question.

Sounds like you have to put with that overbearing rude woman. Shrug it off, you are right to be pissed off, but not much you can do.

How flipping rude to turn up into somebody's garden! No respect for privacy or anything have they.

I would just stop inviting her over and not mention the lights. You don't have to say thank you when it's rudely impose on you

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