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PIL appeared in the garden and started putting up lights

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JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 11:37

I wouldn’t have been at home but DS and I are ill. They would have known someone was in as my car is in the drive and lights are on but they didn’t knock or come in. I went to the driveway and called out for them when I saw their car but they were already round the back. I thought they’d come round to say hi, but they just stayed in the garden, so I went round to them. MIL said hello, but didn’t say what she was doing, so I asked what was going on. MIL said they’d promised 7yo DD lights for our garden 3 years ago and so now they’re doing it. FIL did seem a bit sheepish, but MIL just told me I looked shocked.

I don’t mind them putting lights up. I mind them not asking, even saying we’d love to put some lights up for DD, I would have said yes, thank you. It feels controlling. Obviously this comes with a history of incidents where I’m left feeling undermined or manipulated. I’d like to talk to them about just asking first. I think MIL didn’t want to ask in case we said no. I have tried to imagine how I’d feel if my parents had done this, but it’s hard to imagine as I know they wouldn’t just start doing things around my house without asking. I think I’d feel just the same though.

I messaged DH to ask if he knew and instead of replying to me, instantly went to the group chat with the four of us and told them to stop putting up lights. This isn’t really the way I’d have handled it, but I suppose I can’t complain because I told him what was going on and made it clear I was unhappy.

OP posts:
Christmas2025 · 11/12/2025 13:43

Calliopespa · 11/12/2025 13:08

I think in fairness op he is trying to unequivocally back you up - and when DH don't, they get a lot of flack on here.

But yes, it did seem quite a full-on response and I have to say with both the PIL's behaviour and his reaction, I cannot help wondering if you can be a tricky character? Hard for us to say, obviously, but I guess worth thinking about?

I see it as this is a culmination of a lifetime of controlling behaviour from them. He knows what they're like, he sees the disrespect in their actions and he's acted swiftly to put a stop to their disrespectful behaviour. It's exactly what he should be doing. Boundaries 101.

It only looks unhinged because "it's only lights" which is the type of gaslighting bullshit they would say. It's not though, it's riding roughshod over his and OPs feelings, it's controlling, manipulative and disrespectful - and according to OP it's something they have a pattern of doing. His actions are in proportion with that.

jeremyclarksonsthirdnipple · 11/12/2025 13:43

How odd of them. Surely they could have phoned and said we have this idea ..would you mind if we came and did it on thursday after xxxx is in bed? we want to surprise him/her?
Then I imagine you would have said Oh how lovely of you. Let me know when you are arriving and I will have the kettle on...or similar.
They sound way too entitled.

Lambington · 11/12/2025 13:45

It sounds like you need to secure your garen. Do you not have a gate???

Brendahollowayjustlookwhatyouhavedone · 11/12/2025 13:46

The three year old promise that didn't happen.

diddl · 11/12/2025 13:55

MIL dismissed me with a “We’ll shout when we’re leaving.”

I'm not surprised your husband reacted like he did.

Good for him I say.

He told them to stop doing something that he knew nothing about.

Did they stop?

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 13:57

Lambington · 11/12/2025 13:45

It sounds like you need to secure your garen. Do you not have a gate???

Yes we have a gate, which they opened and walked through! It isn’t usual to have locked gates around here, maybe it isn’t usual anywhere though, and people don’t just let themselves in.

OP posts:
Ohthatsabitshit · 11/12/2025 13:59

They need to call you before they come round and ask you if they can do things on your property. I think DH behaved impeccably myself. Firm and transparently of the same mind as you. I’d suggest he tells them that they must call in future before they come round and may not let themselves in, and that they have upset him and you. They need to make amends. You do not have to help them do that and neither does dh.

I’m sorry this has happened. How bloody intrusive and insensitive of them. Cuddle dh and remember his first response was on your side.

roastedrapidly · 11/12/2025 14:04

Yes it's a bit odd and pushy if them, but texting your DH instead of chatting to them yourself while they were in the garden is a bit odd, and him going on the family chat and ordering them to stop is just completely overkill. Tbh you all sound a little strange and dysfunctional.

LemaxObsessive · 11/12/2025 14:12

Random question, did your PIL happen to help with/towards the deposit for your house by any chance, op?? Or did DH maybe pay more towards the deposit or is he a higher earner? This is just a wild guess but MIL sounds a little bit like one of those in laws who contributed a tiny bit therefore think they’ve got some sort of automatic ‘interest’ in your property or a right to it. Or that they think their son is the primary owner therefore you don’t deserve to know. Hopefully I’m way off but I’ve read about this exact kind of attitude on here before! Ie: PILs paid for/contributed to the deposit, therefore they now believe they can walk in & out the front whenever they wish, etc. like I said, just a wild guess as their behaviour makes very little sense!

Frayededge44216 · 11/12/2025 14:15

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 12:28

I did actually say, “Yes I am! I think you’d be shocked if I appeared in your garden doing things.” MIL replied “I’d just say how nice, thank you!”

When dealing with this level of thick-skinned person, I think you have to stand your ground and keep responding; “you obviously do think it is nice but the majority of reasonable people would have asked first out of common curtesy”

or

“this is a nice gesture but it’s clouded somewhat by your lack of respect in not consulting first”

Keep addressing it then and there calmly and stand your ground until they acknowledge their lack of manners.

I am fuming on your behalf op and I have never set eyes on your mil!

cocog · 11/12/2025 14:18

Honestly I think I would have made them a cup of tea. They we’re doing something sweet for there grandchildren. I would love my kids to have grandparents that would think of them like this though.

Maray1967 · 11/12/2025 14:20

onetrickrockingpony · 11/12/2025 11:51

Conversely, I think how DH managed it was fine. He took responsibility for handling it (and took off your hands), he went direct, and he made it clear it wasn’t acceptable. It also means that the in laws will take up their upset with him and leave you out of it. Well done DH.

Yes, he’s done the right thing here. They’re his parents and he’s dealt with them. Lots of DHs need to take a leaf out of his book.

It might well have been a nice thing to offer to do - but it should have been offered!!!

You can’t just turn up at your grown son’s house and put up lights without checking it’s ok.

Maray1967 · 11/12/2025 14:23

cocog · 11/12/2025 14:18

Honestly I think I would have made them a cup of tea. They we’re doing something sweet for there grandchildren. I would love my kids to have grandparents that would think of them like this though.

But they should ask first. I think I’d offer DS and GF if they have DC to do something similar - but I would ask them before I head off to B&Q!!

Timebudda · 11/12/2025 14:47

Maybe he did it because he knows your all ill and unwell, and didn't want to disturb you.
And thought I know what will cheer them up.
He obviously got it wrong.

canklesmctacotits · 11/12/2025 15:03

They don't feel they need permission to do things for their grandchildren in their son's house. You don't even figure.

At this point I would be telling them "thanks but the next time you want to do something in/to my home can you ask me first please? I wouldn't dream of making unilateral decisions wrt your home, that's a line I would never cross out of respect for you and I hope that respect is mutual".

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 11/12/2025 15:35

Haha! Of course she wouldn't say 'how lovely!' 😂

Put it to the test OP, go round and paint their ensuite lime green or get a load of mismatched plates and glasses from a charity shop and put them in their cupboards without them noticing.

Pinkosand · 11/12/2025 15:52

No I don't like people messing with my space. If I'm putting light up it's coming from me or husband. If they want to put lights up for the grandchildren, they can do it at their house.

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 15:58

LemaxObsessive · 11/12/2025 14:12

Random question, did your PIL happen to help with/towards the deposit for your house by any chance, op?? Or did DH maybe pay more towards the deposit or is he a higher earner? This is just a wild guess but MIL sounds a little bit like one of those in laws who contributed a tiny bit therefore think they’ve got some sort of automatic ‘interest’ in your property or a right to it. Or that they think their son is the primary owner therefore you don’t deserve to know. Hopefully I’m way off but I’ve read about this exact kind of attitude on here before! Ie: PILs paid for/contributed to the deposit, therefore they now believe they can walk in & out the front whenever they wish, etc. like I said, just a wild guess as their behaviour makes very little sense!

Edited

No, they didn’t help with the deposit, although they have helped us out when we’ve been in a tight spot due to redundancy etc. They can be very caring. The deposit came from the sale of my flat.

I think they have the idea that people should live their lives as they do. There’s a lot of talk about convincing other family members to do things they clearly have no inclination to do. This seems to come from a feeling that other people don’t realise that PIL are right and people should realise they’re right and just do things there way.

OP posts:
whistlesandbells · 11/12/2025 17:06

Also think DH did the right thing. Often overlooked, but he didn’t want anyone in his garden putting up lights without asking (or at all) - and he spoke his mind. It’s not just about standing up to them for you. It’s about him telling them, his parents, they are not welcome to overstep in his home.

WalkDontWalk · 11/12/2025 17:16

whistlesandbells · 11/12/2025 17:06

Also think DH did the right thing. Often overlooked, but he didn’t want anyone in his garden putting up lights without asking (or at all) - and he spoke his mind. It’s not just about standing up to them for you. It’s about him telling them, his parents, they are not welcome to overstep in his home.

If he had said, "Well, you're there. You deal with it. I'm at work" there would be people queuing up here to tell the OP that she doesn't have a MiL problem, she has a husband problem.

As he's taken the initiative and addressed his parents directly, he's accused of 'infantilising' the OP and making things worse.

There is nothing anyone can do - not just husbands, also first wives, mothers-in-law, kids, neighbours - that someone on here won't interpret as a slight or an insult or a cruelty to the mum involved.

Bamfram · 11/12/2025 17:29

I think your husband was correct in telling them clearly.
They sound rude, ill mannered, bombastic.
It is not normal to do what tgey did.

But they have form. They know best and they are bullies.
I have come across people like this and they are often the type that even their closest family avoid.

I think you need tk be a lot less pleasant.
Those lights would come down for starters.
I wouldn't allow anyone disrespect me or my home like that.

Calliopespa · 11/12/2025 17:34

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 11/12/2025 15:58

No, they didn’t help with the deposit, although they have helped us out when we’ve been in a tight spot due to redundancy etc. They can be very caring. The deposit came from the sale of my flat.

I think they have the idea that people should live their lives as they do. There’s a lot of talk about convincing other family members to do things they clearly have no inclination to do. This seems to come from a feeling that other people don’t realise that PIL are right and people should realise they’re right and just do things there way.

That sounds a bit like parents generally though...
signed, a parent.

Binglebong · 11/12/2025 18:59

The only thing DH did wrong was to text and not call them so they didn't have the excuse of not seeing it and carrying on.

Soonenough · 11/12/2025 19:10

I moved near my parents with young DCs . They were so happy after years of separation. Very generous to us all as a family . So much so that my father organised and paid for a shed to be installed, bought washing machines ,dishwasher . His greatest pleasure was going out for the day with me to purchase something . My DH found this very strange as his family was more aloof. My father bought a lawnmower so he could mow our lawn . My DH worked long hours plus commute and I found my parents, help invaluable. Sometimes I wanted to try to create some boundaries and distance but it made them so happy to be needed and wanted .

Vitriolinsanity · 11/12/2025 19:28

I honestly would have had no problem with this at all once they said they were doing a nice thing for the children.

I would have made them a cup of tea.

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