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Anyone seen woman arrested for saying f****t in a private text message?

410 replies

Whywhywhyyyy · 09/12/2025 11:12

This is completely bizarre. The news is thin on the ground so to see it I would have to link the mail or other obscure sites; but they are talking about this on Sky News abroad so assume it’s legit.

Apparently woman was arrested by 10 officers and dragged naked from a bath tub because she called a person who hospitalised her from assault a faggot in a message ranting to a supposed friend who reported her for using that word.

What is going on in this country?!

Yes sure that’s unpleasant. But is that really illegal? And if she has been hospitalised by this person then do I really care if someone uses bad words - even if they are hateful.

YABU - that’s a perfectly appropriate use of the law
YANBU - WTF is going on in this country!

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muggart · 09/12/2025 12:38

Equally concerning is the number of people here who don’t seem to believe this is possible or that there must be more to the story. This is entirely plausible and consistent with the way the UK is these days. We’ve slept walked into a situation where we have no freedoms because it seemed too absurd to be real. Just like we slept walked into a situation where male sex offenders were put in female prisons and then had to fight tooth and nail to claw back what should have been common sense rights. THIS IS BRITAIN NOW.

Naunet · 09/12/2025 12:38

Muffsies · 09/12/2025 11:23

If someone assaulted me I would not be looking to inflame the situation with them. If they are derranged or unhinged how did she think that was going to turn out? Getting in trouble with the police is probably the least bad outcome. She sounds like an idiot that needs to be told to stand the hell down.

Wow, so victims of violent males can't even rant to friends now, just shut your mouth and be grateful the violent man didn't kill you because anything else is 'inflaming the situation'?

JHound · 09/12/2025 12:39

Whywhywhyyyy · 09/12/2025 11:24

I saw it on sky news yesterday. And on googling I can find mail and other random sites.

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/terrified-naked-mum-four-arrested-after-texts-branded-hate-speech-1759907

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15302729/Assault-victim-convicted-homophobic-hate-crime.html

I didn’t know it had been on Piers Morgan. Might watch that but that’s not going to give ‘any other side of story’ PPs are saying.

Ok not a rumour but has this woman been living in an underground bunker for 50 years? This is clearly BS.

”Kinney maintains she had no intention of using the word as hate speech. She explained that in her local area, the word is used as slang for a 'weak person' rather than a reference to sexuality. 'It was never about anyone's orientation,' she said. 'It's just a word people here use when someone acts out or causes trouble”

I also suspect this is not the full story.

TopPocketFind · 09/12/2025 12:42

Is this another 'just hurty words' whilst ignoring the guilty plead scenario?

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 09/12/2025 12:45

CaptainMyCaptain · 09/12/2025 12:37

Certainly.

Normally I'd agree but there were threads of people saying those parents on what app must have done more and months later saw they had a huge payout from police force.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/whatsapp-school-group-parents-arrested-compensation-hertfordshire-b2866470.html
Parents ‘get £20k payout’ after unlawful arrest over school WhatsApp row

..
Rosalind Levine and her partner Maxie Allen were detained by six Hertfordshire police officers in front of their young daughter on 29 January before being held at a police station for 11 hours over complaints about the school.
They were arrested on suspicion of harassment, malicious communications, and causing a nuisance on school property.

Seen a few things like this in recent years and now I do wonder.

Parents ‘get £20k payout’ after unlawful arrest over school WhatsApp row

Rosalind Levine told Radio 4 she and her husband were detained by six Hertfordshire police officers in front of their young daughter earlier this year

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/whatsapp-school-group-parents-arrested-compensation-hertfordshire-b2866470.html

Rippedadventwindow · 09/12/2025 12:46

It’s extremely worrying and I am shocked that people think it’s ok. The police prefer to prosecute people like this as it’s easier than investigating someone who is guilty of assault.

askmenow · 09/12/2025 12:48

The public is being constantly gaslit!
Just yesterday in Leamington Spa, two 17yr olds were convicted/sentenced for the rape of a a rape 15yr old white British child.

One dragged her into the bushes and phoned his mate to come and help before both raping her.

No MSM actually reported the FACTS that these boys were Afghan illegal migrants living in taxpayer funded accommodation.

So another girl has her life ruined because our Government are allowing men from mediaeval cultures to enter our country illegally and roam the streets.

HOW MUCH LONGER ARE OUR GOVERNMENT GOING TO SACRIFICE OUR WOMEN AND GIRLS ON THE ALTER OF “DIVERSITY”

To preserve our Free Speech, we should all join the Free Speech Union and stuff this Government and their censorship.

They want the public cowed into submission. After all it worked during Covid.

We have to accept this Government is not acting in the interests of the British people and make preparations for future unrest. Because it will come. There’s only so much Brits will take.

And whatever happened to resilience?

“sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me”

CombatBarbie · 09/12/2025 12:51

TopPocketFind · 09/12/2025 12:42

Is this another 'just hurty words' whilst ignoring the guilty plead scenario?

Well no because although she meant it in another way, she cant deny she said it so im fairly sure her solicitor would have told her, its not worth going to trial for.

She would have to prove its regional dialect, which in theory she probably could, but the fact remains the person who received it took it as its homophobic slur.

Just in the same way I could message a friend and "say im going to kill you" in reference to something silly like not putting the milk back in the fridge. Send it to a colleague, if they dont know your personality they could see it as a direct threat to life.

BadgernTheGarden · 09/12/2025 12:53

ShesTheAlbatross · 09/12/2025 11:27

She was reported by the person she texted, not the person she said attacked her. And the texts were not read out in court so I’m not sure how anyone can say it was an overreaction or not?
She was charged under the malicious communications act because the texts were abusive as well as homophobic and distressed the person she texted.

Allegedly she also blamed the person she sent the message to, who was a friend of the person who allegedly attacked her, it doesn't sound like the attack was reported to the police and no one was arrested.

She was allegedly in the bath when the police arrived, nothing about being dragged out of it.

1457bloom · 09/12/2025 12:54

Freedom of speech no longer exists in this country, we’ve gone full woke.

Dollymylove · 09/12/2025 12:55

Poor woman dragged from her bath naked by 11 officers. Dragged through the courts for calling her assailant, who fractured her skull, a hurty word.
The thug who assaulted her was never prosecuted
I think that rounds it up neatly

PlayCertainGamesWinCertainPrizes · 09/12/2025 12:55

askmenow · 09/12/2025 12:48

The public is being constantly gaslit!
Just yesterday in Leamington Spa, two 17yr olds were convicted/sentenced for the rape of a a rape 15yr old white British child.

One dragged her into the bushes and phoned his mate to come and help before both raping her.

No MSM actually reported the FACTS that these boys were Afghan illegal migrants living in taxpayer funded accommodation.

So another girl has her life ruined because our Government are allowing men from mediaeval cultures to enter our country illegally and roam the streets.

HOW MUCH LONGER ARE OUR GOVERNMENT GOING TO SACRIFICE OUR WOMEN AND GIRLS ON THE ALTER OF “DIVERSITY”

To preserve our Free Speech, we should all join the Free Speech Union and stuff this Government and their censorship.

They want the public cowed into submission. After all it worked during Covid.

We have to accept this Government is not acting in the interests of the British people and make preparations for future unrest. Because it will come. There’s only so much Brits will take.

And whatever happened to resilience?

“sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me”

Gaslit how? We listen to BBC at work and it was on the radio yesterday, it’s hardly hush hush.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 09/12/2025 13:01

What crime merits a woman being dragged from the bath by 11 officers?

Forget whether this crime does, what crime would?

briq · 09/12/2025 13:02

It's not a word I would ever use, but honestly, I think people in a supposedly free country should be able to say whatever they like in a text message (especially if it's a private conversation that doesn't involve the person being 'described') without fear of prosecution by the state. A system of continued bullying or abuse directed at someone would be different, but it doesn't sound like this was anything like that.

Edit to add:

It's particularly egregious that this goes punished when worse crimes receive a slap on the wrist. But we're supposed to be shocked and outraged by someone using a slur in a text?

And yes, the way they went about arresting her seems over the top for any but the most violent offender. Was she really such a threat that they needed to go into her bathroom while she was bathing? Could it not have waited a few minutes?

randomchap · 09/12/2025 13:04

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 09/12/2025 13:01

What crime merits a woman being dragged from the bath by 11 officers?

Forget whether this crime does, what crime would?

Maybe she's already known to the police as a violent offender? Or her partner has form for violence. Or maybe the police were just being cunts in this case

Without knowing the facts speculation is useless

ShesTheAlbatross · 09/12/2025 13:06

askmenow · 09/12/2025 12:48

The public is being constantly gaslit!
Just yesterday in Leamington Spa, two 17yr olds were convicted/sentenced for the rape of a a rape 15yr old white British child.

One dragged her into the bushes and phoned his mate to come and help before both raping her.

No MSM actually reported the FACTS that these boys were Afghan illegal migrants living in taxpayer funded accommodation.

So another girl has her life ruined because our Government are allowing men from mediaeval cultures to enter our country illegally and roam the streets.

HOW MUCH LONGER ARE OUR GOVERNMENT GOING TO SACRIFICE OUR WOMEN AND GIRLS ON THE ALTER OF “DIVERSITY”

To preserve our Free Speech, we should all join the Free Speech Union and stuff this Government and their censorship.

They want the public cowed into submission. After all it worked during Covid.

We have to accept this Government is not acting in the interests of the British people and make preparations for future unrest. Because it will come. There’s only so much Brits will take.

And whatever happened to resilience?

“sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me”

No MSM reported the facts?

The bbc headline about this case is “Asylum seekers, 17, sentenced for girl's rape” and the first sentence of the article is “Two teenage Afghan nationals seeking asylum in the UK have each been given custodial sentences for the rape of a 15-year-old girl in Leamington Spa.”

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 09/12/2025 13:10

Muffsies · 09/12/2025 11:23

If someone assaulted me I would not be looking to inflame the situation with them. If they are derranged or unhinged how did she think that was going to turn out? Getting in trouble with the police is probably the least bad outcome. She sounds like an idiot that needs to be told to stand the hell down.

😳

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 09/12/2025 13:17

Rippedadventwindow · 09/12/2025 12:46

It’s extremely worrying and I am shocked that people think it’s ok. The police prefer to prosecute people like this as it’s easier than investigating someone who is guilty of assault.

I’m more shocked that people seem to believe it actually happened like that.

1457bloom · 09/12/2025 13:24

This is why people vote Reform.

DancingNotDrowning · 09/12/2025 13:24

PlayCertainGamesWinCertainPrizes · 09/12/2025 12:55

Gaslit how? We listen to BBC at work and it was on the radio yesterday, it’s hardly hush hush.

It’s not hush hush because the daily mail fought an injunction on the press reporting these details.

Boomer55 · 09/12/2025 13:25

Perhaps it’s best that she doesn’t abuse people. Sorted.✔️

Dollymylove · 09/12/2025 13:27

If this woman was deemed to be "dangerous" the officers would be armed (Im.assumeing they weren't)
There wasnt that many officers searching house for a potentially armed suspect on 24 hours in police custody last night !!
Clearly someone saying an offensive word is far more of a risk!!

Locutus2000 · 09/12/2025 13:27

Whywhywhyyyy · 09/12/2025 11:29

Yeah I agree the coverage is poor. I am going to watch Piers Morgan and report back.

I am going to watch Piers Morgan and report back.

You need better sources than that before starting a ragebait thread.

StormyPotatoes · 09/12/2025 13:29

PlayCertainGamesWinCertainPrizes · 09/12/2025 12:55

Gaslit how? We listen to BBC at work and it was on the radio yesterday, it’s hardly hush hush.

You should see how Leamington Nub has reported it. The 17 year olds - two teenage boys. The 15 year old girl - a distressed young woman.

Peak gaslighting.

leamington.nub.news/news/local-news/two-teenagers-charged-with-rape-after-leamington-incident-259936

MoFadaCromulent · 09/12/2025 13:30

1457bloom · 09/12/2025 13:24

This is why people vote Reform.

Because they are easily lead, lack critical thinking and believe everything they read online? Agreed