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AIBU to want to distance myself from a very needy friend?

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Freckles67 · 06/12/2025 20:23

I’ve known a friend for about a year, but we’ve only become properly close in the last six months. She’s a lone parent to six young children. She’s originally from quite a privileged background but is now living on benefits due to a family breakdown.
The issue is… she is so needy. She calls me multiple times per day, at least four times, just to go through every detail of her life. She expects help from everyone around her and there’s a sense of entitlement that I really struggle with. Despite everything that’s happened, she still carries herself like she’s above everyone else and is very judgemental toward others.
She constantly asks me for favours, mainly to watch her kids while she “nips out” shopping etc. But her children are extremely hard work honestly, feral and I really don’t want to look after them. My own children are a fair bit older and I’m past that stage.
When she asks, I feel like I can’t say no because of everything she’s been through, but I completely resent it. I feel awful even writing this because I know she’s struggling, but I’m starting to question whether I even like her as a person. At the same time, I don’t feel like I can just cut her off, it feels like that would make me a terrible person. I know circumstances change but she chose to have all of those children and quite clearly can’t manage to look after them. The older children parent the younger ones whilst she spends time on the phone.
Has anyone been in a similar situation? How do you set boundaries without feeling like the world’s worst human?

OP posts:
Duechristmas · 07/12/2025 19:49

I had to do this, then something terrible happened in her life so I had to stay around a bit longer. I have since distanced myself and have no regrets.
I started by taking a little longer each time to reply to messages, by kindly saying no and giving valid excuses, then, when I wasn't as 'useful' she gradually drifted away.

GAJLY · 07/12/2025 20:14

I had a friend like this many years ago. I started ignoring her calls and ringing her back in my pyjamas before bedtime. That way I couldn't do her any favours! I'd set a timer on my phone, after 20 minutes I say sorry got to go, need the toilet/going to bed/someone's at the door, got to put sheets on the bed etc. After a month of doing this, I'd reduce it to every other day. Another month of this, I'd just call her late on Fridays. Now we dont speak, and I'm glad. You have to set firm boundaries and stick to them.

Christmas2025 · 07/12/2025 20:16

I just don't get why some people voluntarily put themselves at the bottom of the list when it comes to what they need, while putting other people's needs on a pedestal.

I grew up being trained to do exactly this. By adulthood it was well ingrained and still being expected of me. I didn't even know I was doing it, it was subconscious. People don't know what they don't know.

Every time I'd attempt to set boundaries of any kind (not something I knew how to do properly, having grown up not being allowed to have any), the people who wanted to use me would get angry or be manipulative and, of course, believing their needs were more important than mine and that saying no, however politely, was rude, I'd set about appeasing them. Alongside sometimes trying to persuade whoever-it-was to allow me to do whatever thing I didn't actually need permission to do, if only I'd known it.

Even if decent friends said they wouldn't put up with something, I used to think: my situation is different because you're not me. So deeply entrenched was the dysfunctional ways of thinking. So until a therapist pointed out it was happening and told me I didn't need to tolerate rude people (which is what getting angry/pushy/manipulative/passive aggressive at someone having boundaries is, however polite the tone of voice it's done in), until I was told that I was justified in literally walking away from anyone behaving like that, both in the moment and long term getting them out of my life - I had no idea.

Emotional abuse is like the brainwashing of cults. Sometimes the cult members are free to leave and they have access to the outside world so could do so, but they stay because they believe staying is the right thing to do or because they've "voluntarily" given all their money to the leader, even if they're putting up with abuse of some kind (not that they may always recognise it as such).

Nobody was openly telling me I couldn't do xyz, nobody was beating me up, nobody was going in my purse and stealing my cash - but there were consequences for making the "wrong" choices, all the same. The "right" choices being the ones others wanted me to make, the choices that benefitted them and sometimes harmed me. Those consequences made making the "wrong" choice not worth it. I wasn't in a cult, but I was being controlled by those around me. Yet if you'd asked me, I'd have told you my choices were my own, that I had free will and control over my own life, because I believed it to be the case. I was wrong.

If you grew up being allowed personal autonomy and to set age-appropriate boundaries, then to you it's common sense to look out for your needs. I wasn't allowed to have needs, never mind wants too. It blew my mind to discover that not only was I allowed to, I was supposed to - and what's more I don't need anyone's permission, don't have to justify my needs to anyone else. I was 30 before I learned what boundaries were and that I was supposed to have some, then started working on it. Prior to that I was a people pleasing doormat under the illusion that I had control of my own life, but really just a puppet being controlled by my partner, most of my family of birth and about 50% of my "friends" - if only I'd realised it. It took me years to be able to put boundaries in place with people effectively and stick to them.

There's a lot of people like me out there. I didn't grow up in a horror-film family, just an ordinary one that looked like any other, on the surface. We looked happy. My parents had normal, ordinary friends. Other parents let their children come for playdates at our house and had me over to theirs. I was well behaved at school and at home. I had friends. You'd have had to become part of our family, living with us for a period of time, to realise there was anything wrong with it.

Sidsandwich · 07/12/2025 20:16

I would strongly recommend the book ' Fawning' by Dr Ingrid Clayton, OP. I've been vulnerable to these personality types in the past, and the book has helped me to understand why, which honestly for me was half the battle. It also gives advice on changing those unhelpful patterns, and crucially does it without making you feel ashamed x

pineapplesundae · 07/12/2025 20:20

You must never not have much going on. Be busy! Too busy to answer the phone and too busy to watch her kids. Go to a coffee shop and read a book if that helps.

Blablibladirladada · 07/12/2025 20:28

Somehow you indulge her where you shouldn’t whilst acknowledging that she does use everyone around her.
”no” is a perfectly good answer. “I am sorry I can’t the next few days”…on repeat.

Daygloboo · 07/12/2025 20:29

Freckles67 · 06/12/2025 20:47

@ComfortFoodCafe
I definitely think that reducing answering is the way forward. She has came out of an abusive situation, both mentally and physically so I don’t want to cut her off cold turkey and bring back any of those negative feelings if you know what I mean

I know it's completely the wrong advice and most ppl would say just tell.her NO, but if you feel really uncomfortable you could invent a,story. Just pretend you have other things going on. Exaggerate if you have to. And then if it doesnt work just be honest and say it's all.getting too.much..

pineapplesundae · 07/12/2025 21:05

Don’t be silly. Setting appropriate boundaries with people does not make you a bad person. Do you feel like you can solve everyone’s problems? Are you thinking, ‘look at me! I’m such a good person!’ Stop it! It’s perfectly fine and reasonable to say no! Practice in the mirror!

NoisyViewer · 07/12/2025 21:17

I’m a social person & I’m part of several social groups & one of the biggest things I’ve learnt is to keep your distance from people who have constant drama. They never want advice, all they want to do is unload on you, it’s no more than a vent. When the dusts settles on 1 problem they go & find another to stir up, often jumping from one to the next.

on a night out a friend bought along her work mate. All night we heard how her family don’t speak to her, how her friends have treated her & that her ex husband was the biggest w*kr going. All my friends feeling really sorry for her. I never said anything at the time but I did warn my mate, who was highly offended by my reservations but I’m just dubious of people who have fell out with everyone around them. I was right to be. Before long she was lending her money, driving her to places & once found herself asking permission to see us as her mate was having a bad day & she was worried she maybe needed. It was at that point she realised she’d been groomed into being her dogs body. When she stopped doing all these favours & lending her money (she wrote off the money owed because she didn’t think it was worth falling out over). She was dropped like a hot potato & before long found out she was slagging her off at work.

so no don’t be guilty for putting down boundaries. Some people need them

BrownFlower2 · 07/12/2025 22:57

Had a very similar situation here OP, it did end up making me feel unwell and have had therapy to unpick it. You will probably find that if you decrease contact/say no/put in boundaries she will cut contact and move on to someone else quickly. She wants someone to talk at and anyone who will listen will do. I know that sounds blunt but in my experience it's often true. And if it's that bad, just block cos it sounds like it's impacting your mental health.

pipthomson · 07/12/2025 23:48

SharkPants · 06/12/2025 20:32

You don't owe her anything. I think it's quite a lot to expect a new friend to look after 6 children regularly. She probably realises that you struggle to say no, and she's exploiting your kindness.
What are you getting back from the friendship? If you think she'd do the same for you, then fine. But it sounds like she's taking the piss.
I'd back off, don't answer the four calls a day, just text back in the evening if it's all getting too much. What can she possibly have to say 4 times a day?! And tell her you have plans when she next asks for babysitting, you'll see how much of a friend she is by her reaction.

This is called “enabling “ the situation will change when you want it to enough
find new friends that are on an equal footing

pipthomson · 07/12/2025 23:52

ha you heard of entitlement that would describe her behaviour

Teddybear23 · 08/12/2025 08:37

Just stop answering your phone except for maybe once every 2 days.

Mollydoggerson · 08/12/2025 10:06

I embroiled myself with a ClingOn recently, every time she called, I dominated the conversation. I also redirected her to other avenues. (she didn't have children but was lonely, redirected her to casual work and the MeetUp App. She has since dropped me. Phew!!!

Gossipisgood · 08/12/2025 12:16

I totally understand how you're feeling as I had a friend exactly the same & like you didn't want to cut them off completely just wanted to set boundaries. I started off not answering her calls then in the evenings would text saying 'sorry missed your call I was busy. will call when I get a minute' Then I'd leave it a day or two & message a quick 'Hi How are you'. If she asked what I was up to I'd always have something I was planning on doing or somewhere I had to go ready as an answer coz like you I'd say I didn't have plans then I'd be asked to watch her children or do her another favour. Don't answer her calls & then only reply if you have time & text rather than ring her back & always have an answer ready if she asks what your plans are or what you've been up to. If you work tell her you have a project on or need to do work from home so you've limited time to help her. Don't be a people pleaser unless you know your kindness will be reciprocated.

Tuesdayschild50 · 08/12/2025 13:10

You just say no.
Stop responding to every call or text.
You have your own life and things to do you don't owe her anything.
There is a line and she is crossing it stop feeling bad and be proud of yourself that you say no to her infringing on your time.

Mummblebee · 08/12/2025 14:15

id just block her. She will get over it. It will be a weight off your shoulders tbh

pineapplecrushed · 08/12/2025 22:53

I can't get past 'lone parent to 6 young children, privileged background, but living off benefits,'
yikes.

venus7 · 09/12/2025 09:40

gamerchick · 06/12/2025 20:47

Practise your long silences on the phone. It's a skill, people naturally want to fill in gaps. Just let the pauses happen.

What? She talks too much, not too little.

Imtornanddontknowwhattodo · 12/12/2025 22:38

GreyCarpet · 07/12/2025 05:19

This isn't really true.

Its not that they are like this with some people and not others. They are like this with everyone

The difference is that some people will put boundaries in place immediately and others don't.

Some people offer to help or agree to the first request. They will be asked again. Others don't and they won't be asked again.

It's important to remember that people can only treat you in the way you allow yourself to be treated.

Well that's me told.

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