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Lifeneedsaresetagain · 05/12/2025 22:29

Do people not realise that for those who welcome them into the family they are part of the family. And if you have a dog and say it's just a dog, I'm not sure you should have one.

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MyOliveCrow · 06/12/2025 13:32

Lifeneedsaresetagain · 06/12/2025 13:25

@MyOliveCrow in a random hypothetical situation I’m saving a dog every time. When given a specific example I can answer based on the parameters. I’m completely stone cold, clearly I dont care about anyone or anything.

No you aren't answering the point. You are waffling bollocks that isn't what myself and another poster have actually asked because either you don't want to admit you were wrong, or because you are not a good person and can't bear to admit that either. IF you would always choose your dog then my original point stands and you'd be happy for your daughter to perish whilst someone saved their parrot because you don't value her life that highly. You clearly are very selfish if your need to have your dog is more important than someone else's life and you would, I assume, recognise that someone else's selfish needs to have their pet in their life means they should save that animals before your daughter/husband/mother/whatever else.

But I am out of this thread, you people are crazy, selfish, self centered and entitled. And it's not about saving your pet's life at all, its about making sure you don't go without because you want your animal in your life. I love all animals, especially all the ones I have had and worked with over the years, but I would never put my need to have one of them in my life over the life of a child and if you would, you cannot be a good person.

YouAreTheCauseOfMyHeadache · 06/12/2025 13:33

HelplessSoul · 06/12/2025 13:24

Why on Earth would I want to take a disease ridden vermin barking piece of filth out for a walk?

Suffice to say in your case, I probably would save a dog over a human like you.

Cool 👍

Kirbert2 · 06/12/2025 13:35

Americasfavouritefightingfrenchman · 06/12/2025 12:13

I think people glibly say they’d save their dog ahead of someone else’s child but in reality if it ever came to it (hugely unlikely) they wouldn’t actually do it.
I wonder how many people saying it have ever seen a child die or come close to dying. Having fairly recently watched a boy at my daughters school have a sudden cardiac arrest and have to stand there totally useless and helpless as a teacher and a doctor parent fought to save him (they got him into an ambulance and to hospital but he ultimately didn’t survive) I can’t imagine thinking a pet was more important than him. I obviously can’t know as the choice wasn’t there but I am pretty confident I would have wrung the neck of every pet I ever owned myself if it could have guaranteed that boy would survive.
Obviously it’s largely academic as situations where you’d make a choice are rare and contrived but I find it fairly shocking someone would say they’d save their pet. All I can think is would you really and truly do that though and just watch a kid die instead? Do you truly appreciate what you are saying and how that would feel?

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Yep.

I've sat there and watch my little boy be kept alive by a ventilator. I've walked PICU corridors and heard loud wails like nothing I've ever heard before as parents are getting told that their child isn't going to survive.

I'd have happily sacrificed all the dogs in the world if it meant not having to hear those wails in the corridor.

FastFood · 06/12/2025 13:41

HotWaterCosts · 06/12/2025 13:16

Yes. I think the people who say they prefer dogs (or pigeons) to humans, need to take a look in the mirror. I expect they don’t like what they see.

I like what I see thank you very much. A bit tired maybe.

You on the other hand you seem really angry for whatever reason.
I don't wish harm on anyone, I haven't started the hypothetical fire from which I should choose between saving little Kevin or my dog, I'm not the one who left little Kevin alone in a house ravaged by fire in the first place, and if I'm honest, I'm not even sure my dog needs my support to run out.
You're getting all vitriolic and worked up about a ridiculous hypothetical situation over a stranger on the internet

I don't prefer dogs to humans, they don't really compare, it's like saying that I prefer helicopters to cheesecake.
But I do love my dog more than most people of all ages. I'm sorry if you think that I deserve to be jailed for that but that's the truth.

FastFood · 06/12/2025 13:43

HelplessSoul · 06/12/2025 13:27

LOL

Did your dog create the clothes, home, food, internet, phone, hospitals, education system, welfare state, job etc for you?

Like that other strange poster, I probably would save a dog if it meant not having to save someone like you.

I can make use of the dog to be the subservient piece of filth it deserves to be.

It's ok my dear, you don't have to save me, I'll be dead so I won't be mad you know.

I urge you to take a deep breath though.

CoubousAndTourmaIet · 06/12/2025 13:47

I get it now @Lifeneedsaresetagain , you have a giant breed ❤
What dog is 70kg? I thought my pup was big at 55ish...🤔

HelplessSoul · 06/12/2025 13:49

FastFood · 06/12/2025 13:43

It's ok my dear, you don't have to save me, I'll be dead so I won't be mad you know.

I urge you to take a deep breath though.

Whatever.

Clearly you cant argue the point about stupid dogs not being able to create things like humans can.

Maybe you can get your disease ridden mutt to save your sorry soul instead - after all, its got lifeguard certification, knows how to do CPR and dial 999 for additional assistance.

🤣🤦‍♂️😂

Lifeneedsaresetagain · 06/12/2025 13:53

@CoubousAndTourmaIet he’s a mastiff

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sonjadog · 06/12/2025 13:55

To be fair, a mastiff can probably take care of itself in most situations.

HotWaterCosts · 06/12/2025 13:56

MyOliveCrow · 06/12/2025 13:32

No you aren't answering the point. You are waffling bollocks that isn't what myself and another poster have actually asked because either you don't want to admit you were wrong, or because you are not a good person and can't bear to admit that either. IF you would always choose your dog then my original point stands and you'd be happy for your daughter to perish whilst someone saved their parrot because you don't value her life that highly. You clearly are very selfish if your need to have your dog is more important than someone else's life and you would, I assume, recognise that someone else's selfish needs to have their pet in their life means they should save that animals before your daughter/husband/mother/whatever else.

But I am out of this thread, you people are crazy, selfish, self centered and entitled. And it's not about saving your pet's life at all, its about making sure you don't go without because you want your animal in your life. I love all animals, especially all the ones I have had and worked with over the years, but I would never put my need to have one of them in my life over the life of a child and if you would, you cannot be a good person.

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OP could not answer my simple yes or no question. Because she knows it is a pretty horrific thing to actually type out: ‘I would understand if someone saved their dog over my daughter’.

FastFood · 06/12/2025 13:56

HelplessSoul · 06/12/2025 13:49

Whatever.

Clearly you cant argue the point about stupid dogs not being able to create things like humans can.

Maybe you can get your disease ridden mutt to save your sorry soul instead - after all, its got lifeguard certification, knows how to do CPR and dial 999 for additional assistance.

🤣🤦‍♂️😂

Well I'm not sure I'll go into that direction given the immense services working dogs / service dogs / assistance dogs can provide.

HotWaterCosts · 06/12/2025 13:58

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CoubousAndTourmaIet · 06/12/2025 14:03

Lifeneedsaresetagain · 06/12/2025 13:53

@CoubousAndTourmaIet he’s a mastiff

Awww. Bet he's gorgeous! I so love the big guys. We've had 8 Pyreneans (though not all at the same time, maximum was 3 together). Current girl is 20 months. The giants are very special ❤
But yeah, he ought to be rescuing you from this mythical fire, surely? 😉

HelplessSoul · 06/12/2025 14:03

FastFood · 06/12/2025 13:56

Well I'm not sure I'll go into that direction given the immense services working dogs / service dogs / assistance dogs can provide.

Easily and soon to be replaced with non stinking/shitting robots and other AI technologies - all created by humans, not dirty dogs.

Oh thats right, fucking DOGS cant create those technologies, can they?

But you are never going to admit that since you dont appear to be human either.

But as you were - let a dog come rescue you when you end up with an illness or whatever....let us know via your dog powered PC/phone/internet....

SMH

NeverDropYourMooncup · 06/12/2025 14:04

HelplessSoul · 06/12/2025 13:49

Whatever.

Clearly you cant argue the point about stupid dogs not being able to create things like humans can.

Maybe you can get your disease ridden mutt to save your sorry soul instead - after all, its got lifeguard certification, knows how to do CPR and dial 999 for additional assistance.

🤣🤦‍♂️😂

If she's in water at the time, the dog's got a considerable chance of being able to save her over and above there being a random person on the beach (who wasn't walking a dog at the time), seeing her, realising she's in trouble, getting their phone out of their pocket, waiting to be connected, knowing exactly where on which beach they are, then the lifeboat crew running from their homes to the station, kitting up, launching the boat, navigating to the area, spotting her and fishing her out, as it's more able to float and swim with somebody holding on.

It's why you shouldn't go into water to attempt to rescue a dog - the majority of the time, the dog can get itself back out of the water. Also why you shouldn't go into the water after a human, too. We just aren't that well adapted for water.

HelplessSoul · 06/12/2025 14:06

NeverDropYourMooncup · 06/12/2025 14:04

If she's in water at the time, the dog's got a considerable chance of being able to save her over and above there being a random person on the beach (who wasn't walking a dog at the time), seeing her, realising she's in trouble, getting their phone out of their pocket, waiting to be connected, knowing exactly where on which beach they are, then the lifeboat crew running from their homes to the station, kitting up, launching the boat, navigating to the area, spotting her and fishing her out, as it's more able to float and swim with somebody holding on.

It's why you shouldn't go into water to attempt to rescue a dog - the majority of the time, the dog can get itself back out of the water. Also why you shouldn't go into the water after a human, too. We just aren't that well adapted for water.

😂

You better tell the Govt/relevant authorities to disband things like the river police, beach life guards and other coastal emergency services and replace the lot with fucking dogs.

🤣

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ChloeMorningstar · 06/12/2025 14:17

Lifeneedsaresetagain · 05/12/2025 22:42

Then don't comment.

Think that's the point of a chat forum?

CoubousAndTourmaIet · 06/12/2025 14:26

HelplessSoul · 06/12/2025 14:06

😂

You better tell the Govt/relevant authorities to disband things like the river police, beach life guards and other coastal emergency services and replace the lot with fucking dogs.

🤣

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YouAreTheCauseOfMyHeadache · 06/12/2025 14:31

CoubousAndTourmaIet · 06/12/2025 14:26

I think she’s unaware of a few things. Such is the ire.

I was particularly amused at her admission that I’m not worth saving as a human, which is a fine and fair choice, but it does imply that St. Soul also runs a ranking system in head about what’s worth saving and what isn’t.
All of her vitriol is because others do the exact same thing.
Remarkable in its simplicity. :)

HelplessSoul · 06/12/2025 14:50

@YouAreTheCauseOfMyHeadache

Vitriol you say?

Let everyone see what you posted and defended:

"...but I’d save my dogs over an unknown child without hesitation."

If that aint messed up, I dont know what is. I hope you dont have kids - and if you do...Christ....

80smonster · 06/12/2025 14:52

This about that bloody labrador not invited for Christmas lunch? The owner hadn’t checked with the hosts and when her partner did, it was a no. I don’t get offended when an invite is adult only, if you can tell someone ‘no kids’ you can definitely say ‘no dogs’. If you have a special request it’s polite to make it known to your host at your earliest convenience. Assuming this post is in relation to the above, it’s about manners not dogs.

EasilyRemedied · 06/12/2025 14:55

JudgeJ · 06/12/2025 08:46

Who made you the comments police? Why are dogs considered a special breed of animals, people manage to own cats, rats, guinea pigs, goldfish, ad nauseum, without wanting to inflict them on society.

The only managing my neighbours do of their cats is to feed them regularly—most of the time other than that they are out and about, inflicting their shit on my garden and running in the road in front of my car.

MrFluffyDogIsMyBestFriend · 06/12/2025 14:56

MouseCheese87 · 06/12/2025 00:32

Poor daughter.

But maybe if everyone raised their children to think that all animals are equal, people would be more concerned about the destruction of their environments. Ultimately, our children are very likely going to suffer precisely because humans think they can do whatever they like with no consequences.

Why is there never any nuance in these threads? How can anyone just think "Humans are more important and that's that" without any thought or consideration? We're the most destructive animal on the planet.

YouAreTheCauseOfMyHeadache · 06/12/2025 15:07

HelplessSoul · 06/12/2025 14:50

@YouAreTheCauseOfMyHeadache

Vitriol you say?

Let everyone see what you posted and defended:

"...but I’d save my dogs over an unknown child without hesitation."

If that aint messed up, I dont know what is. I hope you dont have kids - and if you do...Christ....

There’s no vitriol there.
Its just a statement that you don’t like, and have chosen to throw yourself about over.
Everyone tells on themselves eventually.
I did it upfront. You took your time.

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