If I see any more comments on Mumsnet of it's just a dog

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Do people not realise that for those who welcome them into the family they are part of the family. And if you have a dog and say it's just a dog, I'm not sure you should have one.

Normal is a setting on a washing machine.

Nah.

I grew up being told I was not "normal". Fuck all to do with dogs though, and all to do with my autism.

Not being "normal" to me is just used as an insult towards people who do not agree with you.

@YeOldeGreyhound yes so true.

It's not normal to not want to protect babies over dogs. Hope this helps.

I was just doing something and thinking and this whole hypothetical scenario shows a huge ignorance of fire.

In a fire such as described, you probably can't see anything, you probably are having trouble breathing, if you can hear the baby, you are unlikely to know where it is to be able to find it. Chances are you won't even be able to hear the baby in full cry, so won't know it's there. Fires are incredibly loud.

If you are able to save anything, it's probably because you can feel it at your feet or next to you without vision of it. The likely scenario is you will grab whatever is closer, dog or baby, because you probably don't know where the other one is, if you even know it's there. That's if you can save either or your survival instincts don't prompt you to just get yourself out of there, assuming you aren't overcome by smoke, heat or chemicals in the air first.

I don't like babies. They hit all my sensory issues in a bad way. Smell and noise mainly. I do not find them cute and I do not want to hold one.
That does not make me dangerous, and it not something that needs to be cured.

I have had my dog for over 15 years. She is my family and I have a long standing and deep emotional attachment to her. What is not "normal" would be putting a strange baby (remember my issues with them) above my own dog.
What is dangerous would be me letting go of an emotional attachment for my own family member for a stranger. That would be something to be concerned about. Not the other way around.

You are given a choice, save a dog or save a baby - which do you choose? It is a hypothetical situation. See, the trolley problem and other moral dilemmas.

In this case, the choice is very simple. If given the choice where there were no impediments to you choosing, would you save a dog or save a human baby.?

For most of us, although we love our dogs, we don't hesitate beyond a fraction of a millisecond of sorrow for the dog. We save the baby.

I've already pointed out that since I'm old and I have asthma I would be unlikely to be in a position to rescue anyone. My dog would need to rescue me. But I still got told I'm not normal for not promising to rescue a strangers baby.

I agree. A fire that has got out of control in an enclosed space is terrifying and very dangerous.

Look on YouTube at the various fire safety PSAs. It is not something to be messed with, and certainly not something where you have time to think. You just get out and stay out.

You sound more and more dangerous to be around.

Saving the baby is normal. Choosing a dog over a baby is not. And that's that.

I’m no more preaching than anyone else giving their opinion - such as yourself. And in that vein, turning up to my door to visit with your dog in toe is the height of bad manners to me. If you chose to have a dog then great, just don’t expect everyone to be all that interested in it.

Dogs are pack animals and need to know their place in the home. Of course my dog comes last after the other members of the house…..you know the actual human ones like my children. It does not mean she isn’t a loved and valued member of the household and treated very well.

She certainly doesn’t need your pity by the way.

You sound more and more like a bully.

I am now convinced it is some super human baby that has started the fire to begin with to get us all arguing. Little bastard.

Just wanted to say it wasn't me who reported your post earlier. I didn't have an issue with it. Know we haven't agreed on this thread but I know you didn't mean any harm with that post.

Sometimes we really do need the laugh emoji.

A real psychopath probably wouldn't really care about the dog or the baby.

Pack order has been discredited in dog training. Are you not aware of this?

Genuine question (not to do with the stupid fire situation!). If babies hit your sensory triggers with smell and noise, how are you able to cope with dogs? They smell just as much as babies and can be equally noisy.

(For context, I’m autistic and struggle with both unpredictable baby and dog noises)

Save your own baby. I will save my own dog. Simple.

Thank you for being a normal, decent, caring dog owner. You used to be in the vast majority, along with me and every other dog owner.

There's something actually missing in anybody who not only believes their dog matters or should matter (to others) as much as humans but actually openly argues for it.

Although, to be fair, most of the dog worshippers on this thread very probably do not admit this nonsense openly in real life.

Thank you, I appreciate that and I do apologise.

I’m not ashamed to say that no, I was not aware of this until I seen your post.

Its worked well for us and our now elderly dog though. We love her to bits and she’s really been a joy to have as part of the family.

My dog is greyhound and the only noise she makes is chattering her teeth when she is content, or sniffing through my bag. She never barks.
She does not smell. It took me a while to deal with her poo ( I used to wear a glove and pick up loads of leaves when picking up her poo), but I got used to it.

Yes, I got it, you sound dangerously detached from humans and this is not a normal comment. Simple.

Do yourself a favour and don't say this in real life. Or do as you please and I will just shrug and get on with being normal.

No, I am just saying my own dog matters more to me than a stranger does. I really do not see what is wrong with that.