If I see any more comments on Mumsnet of it's just a dog

[Lifeneedsaresetagain]

Do people not realise that for those who welcome them into the family they are part of the family. And if you have a dog and say it's just a dog, I'm not sure you should have one.

Ok so no answer then. Cool 👍

@Notadame are you a psychologist or a psychiatrist?

No, it is because people mud sling over fiction and it is stupid.

I have, as it happens, but I don’t think that confers any particular authority. It doesn’t mean I’d make a better decision next time. This isn’t about how we actually perform under pressure, it’s about values and assumptions and what we truly think is important. Which is why it’s profoundly disturbing to see people instinctively inclined to choose a dog over a baby.

Still waiting about the law about not rescuing babies.

You can not choose how you act on instinct.
Fight/flight/freeze are on an instinctual level. If I could pick my panic attacks accordingly, I would have a better quality of life.
Same for instincts when it comes to emergences. No one really knows how they will act when it actually happens. So berating someone for doing something different to you, and you might surprise yourself and also leave a baby, is pretty shitty.

Why do you feel the need to preach/tell people this.
People can think and do what they want to do, just because you don’t agree, doesn’t make it 'the height of bad manners’.
If that’s a bugbear for you, then that’s a you problem😬 Feel sorry for your dog, because you’ve made sure they know their place, which is at the bottom of the pile.How lovely of you🙄

Wild take.

Having been in some very serious situations, but not this specific one, all I can confidently say is there is no way to know in advance what we would actually do when a situation unfolds.

I live in a natural disaster prone area. I know people who have died in this kind of situation. I evacuated early, with my dogs and humans, so was never in a position where I could have the opportunity to find out what my exact reaction would be.

It's very likely, in this situation, that many people wouldn't save anyone as their own survival instinct kicks in, even if did have the time. Most people would instinctively save themselves, in spite of what they think they would do.

When I have been in situations where quick thinking and dire circumstances have existed, I'm pleased to say my instinctive reaction is always to auto-pilot into the mode of doing the right thing (which has never involved deciding between people or animals). I have saved someone's life before when everyone around me just froze or panicked.

But there is my final answer, based on experience and field of study, that none of us actually know what instincts would kick in and how we would react in that scenario until we have been there. People can say what they think they would do but they don't know.

It’s got to the point where I’d choose the fire and be done with it.

But this is being based on a
very lose hypothetical situation and there’s remarks around the pshychology of people which is madness. To comment on the psychology of people with conviction it should be a controlled example and mental state should be interpreted by a psychologist or psychiatrist.

I am starting to think the same.

I’ve shown this thread to my mum who happpens to be psychologist and a psychiatrist and based on the hypothetical situation that has been presented she said she’d save her dog. And finds it odd that certain people on this thread are fixating and giving analysis that is off.

Today in things that never happened....

Imagine banging on about a hypothetical scenario so much that people would choose to burn. The work of psychopaths surely!

the example you keep referring to is not a test

Though someone trained well wouldn't make assumptions in black and white. They'd dig into the situation and what was happening for that person at the time.

You don't have to burn though. It looks like that might be impossible. Everyone around you is dead or injured and you're just standing there unaffected, trying to decide whether you save the dog or baby. With that super power you can save both easily.

Do elaborate…

But does the baby have special powers too? I guess it must have. Do we know for sure it didn’t start the fire?

You would have asbestos lungs. Eyes unaffected by smoke.
You would be one of the X-men.

Nope. Normal humans protect human babies, abnormal and possibly dangerous ones pretend that's not true.

What is a normal human? Please define it.

Nope. You already understand that normal = standard, usual, typical, expected. Not dangerous.

Is haranguing strangers over make believe stuff normal?