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If I see any more comments on Mumsnet of it's just a dog

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Lifeneedsaresetagain · 05/12/2025 22:29

Do people not realise that for those who welcome them into the family they are part of the family. And if you have a dog and say it's just a dog, I'm not sure you should have one.

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HotWaterCosts · 06/12/2025 12:09

You are a human too. Rejoice in your twattery!

sorry the quote didn’t work. This was for the poster who prefers to socialise with pigeons.

YouAreTheCauseOfMyHeadache · 06/12/2025 12:09

Notadame · 06/12/2025 12:05

How is it not conditional then?

Because I know them. I know what they are and what they aren’t capable of both physically and personality-wise. They’ve never ever shown aggression and are well trained, polite, sociable and trusting little creatures who have shared my life for years

If they ever bit I’d want to know why they were provoked into such a response.
And if anybody harmed or abuse them - I’d go to jail. Willingly.

I do not blindly value humanity at any cost.

MyOliveCrow · 06/12/2025 12:12

So those saying they would save their pet over a child they didn't know, would you truly be happy that someone would rather save their pet, be it dog, cat, rabbit, or fish, over your child/ren? So your child died but someones pet guinea pig lived, that's okay to you? Is that all your child's life is worth? OR your partners, sisters, nephews etc life?

I loved my dogs move than most humans I have ever known. But I would still save an unknown child over any of them. Especially having lived without them now.

Americasfavouritefightingfrenchman · 06/12/2025 12:13

Lifeneedsaresetagain · 06/12/2025 12:00

@Notadame there’s nothing psychopathic about saving your own family before someone else’s. If you want to understand the actual definition of psychopathy I suggest you read Cleckley’s The Mask of Sanity.

I think people glibly say they’d save their dog ahead of someone else’s child but in reality if it ever came to it (hugely unlikely) they wouldn’t actually do it.
I wonder how many people saying it have ever seen a child die or come close to dying. Having fairly recently watched a boy at my daughters school have a sudden cardiac arrest and have to stand there totally useless and helpless as a teacher and a doctor parent fought to save him (they got him into an ambulance and to hospital but he ultimately didn’t survive) I can’t imagine thinking a pet was more important than him. I obviously can’t know as the choice wasn’t there but I am pretty confident I would have wrung the neck of every pet I ever owned myself if it could have guaranteed that boy would survive.
Obviously it’s largely academic as situations where you’d make a choice are rare and contrived but I find it fairly shocking someone would say they’d save their pet. All I can think is would you really and truly do that though and just watch a kid die instead? Do you truly appreciate what you are saying and how that would feel?

Lifeneedsaresetagain · 06/12/2025 12:13

@HotWaterCosts I’d say given DD has recently graduated from Med School and now working as a Dr she’s done OK.

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YouAreTheCauseOfMyHeadache · 06/12/2025 12:13

HelplessSoul · 06/12/2025 12:07

Jesus H Christ.

No words.

They’re just children. Remarkably many people view them in the same way that others view dogs. No interest, no investment, irritating in cafes.
Shocking as that may be.

MyOliveCrow · 06/12/2025 12:14

Lifeneedsaresetagain · 06/12/2025 12:13

@HotWaterCosts I’d say given DD has recently graduated from Med School and now working as a Dr she’s done OK.

This is a weird way to quantify things. Being a doctor doesn't mean you are okay in life. It simply means you trained as a doctor.

HelplessSoul · 06/12/2025 12:15

YouAreTheCauseOfMyHeadache · 06/12/2025 12:13

They’re just children. Remarkably many people view them in the same way that others view dogs. No interest, no investment, irritating in cafes.
Shocking as that may be.

This has to be a fucking wind up.

You need therapy. Lots of it.

Its people like you that make humanity so messed up. As I said in an earlier post, come back to me when fucking dogs can create things human can.

Lifeneedsaresetagain · 06/12/2025 12:17

@MyOliveCrow we all quantify differently.

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labamba18 · 06/12/2025 12:20

When people say they’d choose for a child to die over their dog you understand the mentality of some dog people. Some are simply insane, and we can’t pander to them.

I suspect the way the thread has gone it’ll go quiet because there’s really no coming back from that. I know what side I’d rather be on.

And I bloody love dogs ❤️

Notadame · 06/12/2025 12:20

YouAreTheCauseOfMyHeadache · 06/12/2025 12:13

They’re just children. Remarkably many people view them in the same way that others view dogs. No interest, no investment, irritating in cafes.
Shocking as that may be.

But it really doesn't matter what you think on a personal level, because in society and in the law, a child's life, needs, and wants are of more value than a dog's.

MyOliveCrow · 06/12/2025 12:21

Lifeneedsaresetagain · 06/12/2025 12:17

@MyOliveCrow we all quantify differently.

Evidently.

YouAreTheCauseOfMyHeadache · 06/12/2025 12:21

HelplessSoul · 06/12/2025 12:15

This has to be a fucking wind up.

You need therapy. Lots of it.

Its people like you that make humanity so messed up. As I said in an earlier post, come back to me when fucking dogs can create things human can.

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It’s not.
I don’t.
Humanity is messed up because of humanity.
You can’t blame people who chose a quiet life with animals away from the grotesqueries that humanity creates for the downfall of society.

MovedlikeHarlowinMonteCarlo · 06/12/2025 12:21

I love my dog and consider her part of the family but to compare her to a child is insane.

MyOliveCrow · 06/12/2025 12:22

labamba18 · 06/12/2025 12:20

When people say they’d choose for a child to die over their dog you understand the mentality of some dog people. Some are simply insane, and we can’t pander to them.

I suspect the way the thread has gone it’ll go quiet because there’s really no coming back from that. I know what side I’d rather be on.

And I bloody love dogs ❤️

I think some people, ie the OP, are just being deliberately difficult in order to wind others up. Empty lives and all that.

nomoreforks · 06/12/2025 12:24

I love my kids and dog more than anything. Having a dog has made me realise how animals are sentient and made me much more aware of how we treat animals. As humans we need to respect and treat animals much better and to be honest I like my dog more than a lot of humans.

HotWaterCosts · 06/12/2025 12:27

Lifeneedsaresetagain · 06/12/2025 12:13

@HotWaterCosts I’d say given DD has recently graduated from Med School and now working as a Dr she’s done OK.

So? Graduating and getting a job is not synonymous with emotional stability and happiness. Esp if your mother values you the same as the family dog.

Onleemoi · 06/12/2025 12:28

The saving a child or dog question is daft. Where are the kids parents? Why am I the only one able to save them? Don’t leave your kids with me if I don’t know you!

None of you have the foggiest idea of how you’d behave in this unlikely scenario either. Calling people a psychopath over a stupid hypothetical question - that’s normal?!

NeverDropYourMooncup · 06/12/2025 12:29

HotWaterCosts · 05/12/2025 22:46

It’s a reaction to the post-pandemic dog worship, dog-dependence and celebration of misanthropy.

Compared to humans, yes it is ‘just’ a dog.

Compared to dogs (and cats, horses, caterpillars, hedgehogs, etc), if I haven't given birth to it or to one of its parents and it doesn't share my bed every night, it's just another human.

Animals have never been the source of emotional trauma or deliberate violence in my life. They haven't bullied, ostracised, isolated, controlled, stonewalled, mocked, stolen from (other than the occasional unattended yoghurt), made accusations or sought to financially, physically or mentally destroy me.

Their needs are different, but they are fundamentally more predictable, more trustworthy and more honest than humans.

pixiegirlishere · 06/12/2025 12:29

Ha ha ha! I have a dog. She is indeed ‘just a dog’. She is also part of my family, a dog part of it, not a human one. And no, I don’t expect her to be welcomed everywhere in the same way a human member of my family is. Because SHE IS A DOG and not a human!!!

HotWaterCosts · 06/12/2025 12:31

pixiegirlishere · 06/12/2025 12:29

Ha ha ha! I have a dog. She is indeed ‘just a dog’. She is also part of my family, a dog part of it, not a human one. And no, I don’t expect her to be welcomed everywhere in the same way a human member of my family is. Because SHE IS A DOG and not a human!!!

Sane voices like yours are getting lost in the maelstrom of dogstremism shown by the OP and others on here!

HelplessSoul · 06/12/2025 12:32

YouAreTheCauseOfMyHeadache · 06/12/2025 12:21

It’s not.
I don’t.
Humanity is messed up because of humanity.
You can’t blame people who chose a quiet life with animals away from the grotesqueries that humanity creates for the downfall of society.

If humanity is fucked up, then its due to people like you who openly say you would save a dog over a random child.

You might wanna look at that before you critique the rest of humanity. That you have normalised your argument shows just how messed up you are / humanity is.

As said, come back to me when fucking filthy dogs can do what humans can do - like make cars, build houses, paint, write sonnets and create life saving medication.

Until then, you are better off S'ingTFU.

Onleemoi · 06/12/2025 12:32

And also, if we’re discussing daft old tropes, if you genuinely believe people are treating their pets the same way you treat your child you should up your parenting standards!

MyOliveCrow · 06/12/2025 12:33

HotWaterCosts · 06/12/2025 12:27

So? Graduating and getting a job is not synonymous with emotional stability and happiness. Esp if your mother values you the same as the family dog.

It's so bizarre when people dangle a job as the epitome of perfect parenting. A job does not equate to a decent life. It simply equates to a certain job. Lots of unhappy people who had shit childhoods have a whole variety of jobs. It means nothing and is concerning that someone would rank this as high on their list of priorities when it comes to their kids.

Hadalifeonce · 06/12/2025 12:34

I used d to have cats, which I absolutely adored. But at the end of the day they were just cats, my cats, but just cats.

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