To suggest that all the people who know people who are definitely faking disability for benefits should report them.

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So many people post online about knowing a person or family, some apparently know multiple people who are lying to claim PIP or DLA for their children.
If you know this for a fact as us claimed then you should report them.

If no one ever committed fraud no one would have these worries

I’m afraid that’s not the case

I’m aware of the stress but that shouldn’t be a reason to put people off reporting
and OP asked ‘to know people who are definately faking disability’

is not someone ‘who hardly knows you’

If you read the thread title

Funny how so many posters on here know a benefits scrounger who is faking their illness to get PIP and a motability car, who has multiple holidays abroad, wears designer clothes, is dripping in diamonds and is generally taking the piss.

PIP is an in work benefit. UC can be.

No
Read the thread title

OP is referring to knowing someone committing PIP fraud

So if someone tells you they are or tells you what they claim for but you ‘somehow’ know that’s not true.
Then you
know someone is committing fraud
( tbh whatever type of fraud it is )

This isn’t about some random in the street you heard from a neighbour ten doors down gets PIP because they can’t walk but you spotted them running the annual marathon

This is about knowing someone who is committing fraud.

I haven’t seen many on this thread

most don’t seem to be bothered by others who commit fraud
which is truly shocking

I do wonder if people would bother reporting anyone at all that commits a crime
No wonder so many live in fear

I wonder how many of these moaners actually tell people they're going to report them? Not many, I reckon.

I think OP’s point is that there are many (too many ) posters who will readily use an anecdote as “proof” to stir up hate and division (and some posts are truly hateful), but somehow they never do anything about it in real life , like reporting it rather than seething about it.

A miserable old busy body reported me for “benefit fraud “ once. She was jealous my children all had the same dad (unlike hers) and that we got on well. She got it in her head I was pretending to be separated for more benefits. Almost ruined mine and my kids life, seriously if someone’s money gets stopped and they can’t pay rent you’re looking at potential homeless children.
Or in the case of this thread homeless disabled people but sure keep the paranoid delusions and making life more difficult for disabled people

I can't tell you, but I had 'eyes on' evidence ...she still has the mobility vehicle

I know... the PIP is for needing care and having mobility needs, neither apply in this case. They did, but not now. UC may have stopped for other reasons I wont disclose but the PIP is still being claimed.

I was referring to the poster who seems to think it was ok for a poster with a hidden disability to be reported. It isn’t.

It's difficult to report a complete fantasy, to be fair.

This thread is about knowing someone is committing fraud

Your Personal example is not the same

If people know, they should report
The potential fallout is on those that commit fraud.

But
let’s continue with irrelevant examples to justify ignoring fraud

The fraud rate for PIP is 0.4%. These are the official figures from the government.

I have 2 sons with autism and I know lots of other families with autistic offspring. Sometimes these children and young adults, when out and about, seem to be functioning really very well. They can get public transport on their own, perhaps meet friends etc. And yet, live a life funded completely by benefits. You only see them when they aren't at home, when they're having a good day. You don't see a meltdown, the assistance they need managing their money, or their personal hygiene. Your not there for the telephone calls to their parent at work because they have got lost in between college and the bus stop. You're definitely not there for the meltdowns that look like psychotic episodes.

Erm. Yes I was being wholly sarcastic.... I spend a fair bit of my working life with people who need and are turned down for PIP and other benefits.
I'm sorry I sounded so realistic but that's how some people think!

How do you know, did you do an assessment update?

Who do you think would investigate and then deal with these reports? Most people probably would have been reported but the dept investigating these frauds may not have capacity to deal

PIP is an in work benefit.
No it is not.

Pip can be claimed based on eligibility regardless if you work or not . Facts matter.

Personal Independence Payment (PIP): What PIP is for - GOV.UK https://share.google/iFDHLyDDNBA1xF1qx

I have done so, more than once! It has either never been followed up or they received a phone call asking if they had made any false statements on their claim ( which they obviously denied). It was then concluded and they carried on falsely claiming and in fact are still doing so!

It’s not always that simple. For example, my sister in law has anxiety. This is a genuine condition diagnosed by a GP and she was prescribed medication which she doesn’t take. However, she makes zero effort to treat it and admits fully that she exaggerates her MH issues to claim benefits. She told me herself that she went online and specially searched what she needed to say/write on assessment forms in order to be awarded. She also openly admits she makes more take home pay from her benefits than she would working, as she’ll most likely never earn above minimum wage, so why would she work.

What could anyone report her for though? She had a diagnosed condition, and my evidence is “she told me it’s not really bad enough to stop her working.” Which is true, but impossible to prove.

and how many people claiming to “know” actually know? It’s not like someone is going to go around bragging about how they’re committing fraud 🙄

This woman also claimed to “know” i was committing fraud she went around telling all the other school parents about me was obsessed with me and she was over twice my age. Absolutely batshit .

Well its not quite that simple…however its definitely nowhere near as hard as people on here would have you believe.

I assume this thread on fraud has come about because of the increased measures being proposed
to detect fraudulent claims

The DWP pays benefits to nearly 24 million people across Great Britain, including 3.7m on PIP. The latest DWP report shows £330m was lost to fraud and error in the PIP system last year, up from £90m in 2023/24.

( some figures note 3.8mill on PIP )

It is! I have 2 children. 1 who gets it and 1 I haven’t bothered to apply for because I know how difficult it is to get. They have the same multiple conditions, 1 who gets it has an additional condition.

See recent headlines on proposed new measures