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Girl Guides are now GIRL ONLY!

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Iamwhoiamwhoareyou · 02/12/2025 14:41

Following April's supreme court ruling, the Girl Guides have FINALLY made a statement and will remain GIRLS ONLY - Finally closing the door on admitting trans members or allowing BOYS to invade female only spaces/camp (which, would be done without informing parents that their daughter would be sharing a room with a biological male!) - I have a previous post in feminism chat for anyone wanting to read the previous thread on this

EMAIL RECEIVED HOT OFF THE PRESS 5 MIN AGO -

As the parent of a young member in Girlguiding, following April’s Supreme Court decision relating to sex and gender, we wanted to give you an update. Many organisations across the country have been facing complex decisions about what it means for girls and women and for the wider communities affected, including us.

Girlguiding’s governing charity documents set out that the membership and people who benefit from our organisation are girls and women. In April, the Supreme Court ruled that girls and women are defined in the Equality Act 2010 by their biological sex at birth.
Following detailed considerations, expert legal advice and input from senior members, young members and our Council, Girlguiding’s Board of Trustees has made the difficult decision that Girlguiding must change Girlguiding must change, following the Supreme Court’s ruling.

From today, 2 December, it is with a heavy heart that we are announcing trans girls and young women will no longer be able to join Girlguiding. This is a decision we would have preferred not to make, and we know that this may be upsetting for members of our community.

There will be no immediate changes for current young members but more information will be shared next week.

Most adult roles, including unit helpers, district helpers and administrative support, are already open to all, so we are confident that no volunteers will have to leave the organisation.

Girlguiding believes strongly in our value of inclusion, and we will continue to support young people and adults in marginalised groups. Over the next few months, we'll explore opportunities to champion this value and actively support young people who need us.

You can find our full statement and updated policy on our website.

We are proud to be the UK’s largest youth organisation dedicated to girls and is focused on creating an equal world for girls and young women. For over 100 years, we have been a welcoming space for all girls to have new experiences, support their communities, build friendships and grow their confidence.

While Girlguiding may feel a little different going forward, these core aims and principles will always be the same. We remain committed to treating everyone with dignity and respect, particularly those from marginalised groups that have felt the biggest impact of this decision.

If you have any immediate questions, we have our special support team in place, to give volunteers, parents and carers the best support we can. We are asking Girlguiding HQ, trading and country/region staff to refer any volunteer or parent who has questions about this announcement. Details below.

Contact [email protected] or 020 7532 3970
All calls/emails will be confidential, and the service will be open 24hrs, 7 days a week.
Find out more, including how this team will handle personal data.

Denise Wilson (Chair of Trustees), Felicity Oswald (CEO) and Tracy Foster (Chief Guide)

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Nananaaaas · 02/12/2025 14:44

👏 👏 👏

IdaGlossop · 02/12/2025 14:45

At last!

EweProfessorSurnameDoctorProfessor · 02/12/2025 14:46

Fab news!

muddyford · 02/12/2025 14:47

"...complex decisions..." Yeah, right!

LittleJustice · 02/12/2025 14:48

I didn't realise men could volunteer actually so that's not exclusively female then?

GandTtwice · 02/12/2025 14:49

Excellent news (and about time!)

Laiste · 02/12/2025 14:50

Good news 😊

TappaMcFeety · 02/12/2025 14:51

‘With a heavy heart’ PFT!

How did this madness ever happen in the first place - brilliant news!

Well1mBack · 02/12/2025 14:51

The grudging tone from them is quite astounding. I have trauma from men from a young age and would have hated knowing that I was sharing with males.

SidekickSylvia · 02/12/2025 14:51

Brilliant news, although they really didn't need to state their reluctance quite so often. It's the correct decision, they should confidently stand by it, instead of this 'Sorry guys, we've had our hands forced.'

Iamwhoiamwhoareyou · 02/12/2025 14:51

I am certainly celebrating this long awaited news!

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TeenToTwenties · 02/12/2025 14:53

There will be no immediate changes for current young members but more information will be shared next week.

This will be important as they will need to phase out boys either at the end of term, end of year or at the next transition stage (which could be 4 years away).

Most adult roles, including unit helpers, district helpers and administrative support, are already open to all, so we are confident that no volunteers will have to leave the organisation.

However they will need to be careful that TW are not put into positions that men are not, especially regarding supervision at camps.

Iamwhoiamwhoareyou · 02/12/2025 14:53

SidekickSylvia · 02/12/2025 14:51

Brilliant news, although they really didn't need to state their reluctance quite so often. It's the correct decision, they should confidently stand by it, instead of this 'Sorry guys, we've had our hands forced.'

Completely agree, it was quite an infuriating read despite the positive news.

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Throckmorton · 02/12/2025 14:54

Wow, amazing!!
They could have been clearer though - they make it sound like girls ("trans girls") are being excluded when what they mean is boys who identify as trans!

HansHolbein · 02/12/2025 14:56

Heavy heart? Fuck off.

Good. Everyone is slowly getting the message that we don’t want men in our spaces. Ever.

Helpwithdivorce · 02/12/2025 14:56

I posted ages ago about a trans 4 year old on my waiting list for rainbows. I am extremely pleased that I now do not have to offer a place to this child. The whole thing made me extremely uncomfortable

justpassmethemouse · 02/12/2025 14:57

That is so sad

Throckmorton · 02/12/2025 15:01

justpassmethemouse · 02/12/2025 14:57

That is so sad

Why? I think teenage girls have a right to single-sex spaces away from boys. It's nothing against the boys, it's just that girls often do well in single sex spaces, and until very recently GG was single sex. It's just going back to that (thankfully)

Stillpresent · 02/12/2025 15:03

I would love to see the actual number of people impacted by this? Ie how many guides have to leave because they are trans

Stillpresent · 02/12/2025 15:03

justpassmethemouse · 02/12/2025 14:57

That is so sad

not in the least bit sad

moreover, storm in a teacup. I reckon will be a handful at most impacted

Throckmorton · 02/12/2025 15:05

Stillpresent · 02/12/2025 15:03

not in the least bit sad

moreover, storm in a teacup. I reckon will be a handful at most impacted

Indeed. And presumably now the girls who identify as trans, who were excluded before I think, can now join. Win win

Tillow4ever · 02/12/2025 15:08

If they’re so upset they could always create an organisation for Trans girls….. although I suspect they’ll be less wanting to join that as they won’t have access to teenage girls anymore. I am sure some were genuinely trans - but I would be shocked if they all were.

RaininSummer · 02/12/2025 15:13

Excellent news.

twilightcafe · 02/12/2025 15:14

What a mealy-mouthed statement.

netflixfan · 02/12/2025 15:14

Good.

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