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My best friend of nearly 20 years and I have fallen out

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Mondura · 02/12/2025 14:04

a long one..

My friend and I have known each other for 17 years. We both live in the UK. We’ve had a wider friendship circle since our twenties when we met but ppl move away and their lives end up going in different directions so it's not a strong group of friends anymore. I’d say she’s been a constant, supportive presence in my life throughout these years and we’ve never fallen out until a couple of months ago. I’m not even sure how things got to this point. She is turning 40 soon (a few months before me) and together with a third friend we were trying to organise something to celebrate her birthday. We all had some ideas, put them in the group chat but she decided she just wanted something simple, like going away to a cottage, just the three of us, have a few drinks, dinner, stay a night or two and just chat, laugh relax, etc. Great, nothing complicated or so I thought. Our third friend and I suggested a country pub with rooms which we’ve both been very impressed by previously, it had other locations in the UK, great service, lovely atmosphere, we were very keen to make the most of it. Our third friend sent some links and she highlighted some of the rooms have two beds, she’ll try and find maybe a family room, but can’t see a cottage on the grounds with multiple rooms. Fine, nothing has been decided and I said I’m happy to take a separate room maybe next to them and don’t mind the extra cost if they prefer sharing the two-bed one. We’ve known each other for a long time, all three of us know that I can afford a bit more in life in general. It hasn’t always been the case, we worked hard for the money we have, run a business, take risks etc. that’s not to say, they are poor, they can both afford luxury holidays, meals out, lovely clothes etc, so none of these things have ever really been an issue. My friend, the birthday girl, didn’t reply to my suggestion to book two rooms, we were all in a rush to do things that morning anyway, we knew it wasn’t going to be finalised so just left it. She then sent another link to the chat a few days later with an Airbnb link for another, cheaper cottage. We all liked it, lovely place, location, great! I was going away a few days later but was keen to finalise something for my friend so we'd have it locked in the calendar and had this short getaway to look forward to so instead of packing and getting myself organised, I prioritised this trip and started my morning looking into booking this. I told them that I’m happy to advance the payment and they can just transfer it later, I just wanted to look through the listing again to make sure it’s all to our liking and needs and I’m ready to book it. My friend messaged back that it’s fine and if it’s ok if she transfers her share the following month. I said ok. Then I was looking for the room configuration on the listing which was a bit hard to figure out, but I found it and it was a cottage with two double bedrooms and a living room with a sofa (not pull out). I sent in a screenshot with the caption “this one only has two bedrooms”. This is where things kicked off. She seemed to have gotten really upset and replied that I should just find another one then. I didn’t reply as I sensed that she was upset. We generally text or call each other almost every day, often multiple times a day, so I can read between the lines, she was not happy. I said I can look for something else, but not until I come back from my upcoming trip a week later so we can park this for now if that’s what she wants. She then messaged again saying it’s best to cancel the whole thing, all of us have different needs, she doesn’t want to go away any more, just a simple dinner is fine. I didn’t reply, because I was busy getting myself ready, I was already short on sleep and had a lot to do, I didn’t want to engage in discussing it further. It was clear that the booking wasn’t going to go ahead then. So I didn’t respond, she then private messaged me and said the same thing that it’s best to not go ahead at all with the plans. It’s her call of course, but then I replied saying I don’t understand and I don’t think it’s fair to now just shut it all down when we’ve all planned so much and looked forward to this ( took forever to find dates that suited us all). We were ready to book and it sounded like the ‘everyone has different needs’ is aimed at me as if my needs were too much. I said I don’t mind looking for a bigger cottage and I’ll just pay the difference for the third room if that’s the issue as it’s no problem for me. I was very polite and I tried to come up with a solution though I didn’t really understand why she got so agitated so suddenly. She then became pretty abusive saying she knows I can afford it, I rub this under their noses all the time. Last time when our other friend sent a link, I also told them I can afford a separate room for myself and that’s it’s not cool and I should really have a think about how I communicate because I come across entitled. I was shocked and started crying. I was totally oblivious to this if it was the case and really I thought I'm just booking a trip for my best friend and doing my best to be flexible.I scrolled back in the messages to see if I was rude or what exactly I said but I genuinely just stated that I don’t mind going for an extra room for myself. She knows I’m an awful sleeper, I send her screenshots of my sleep stats often and we analyse it together, I usually need a dark, quiet room and although we have shared rooms and even bed together in the past, I’d rather pay for my comfort levels approaching our 40s if we can afford it. Clearly her main issue was not me wanting a separate room, but it was deeper than that. It just seems she never expressed these to me. I stopped responding. I saw her last message later on where she says I’ve been the one person who is closest to her in the past 20 years and that she loves me, sort of like a half-assed apology where she probably realised how overboard she went. But I just couldn’t continue writing anything after all this and I had a lot to do that day anyway. I shouldn't have started the day with this booking as I had a lot on. She then tried to ring me in the afternoon and again in the evening, but I was on the school run in the afternoon, then took a sedative for the night (I don't often do this), but I had to calm down somehow and it was important that I had a good night's sleep before an early start to my flight. Over a week went past and I didn't contact her. In fact I muted her chat and the other chat too, which had all three of us in originally as I just couldn't deal with the drama plus I was away with my daughter, I didn't really have time to myself to dive into this whole 'who said what and why' saga.I also didn't want this to ruin my time away with my daughter though it definitely overshadowed it. I cried a lot at night or when she couldn't see me. I also didn't really know what to write tbh. I don't often post on social media, so whenever I snap pictures of what I do, where I am, what I eat etc, I just send a few to some selected friends and my husband. So this friend would've in normal circumstances received a lot of pics from my trip away, but I just had such a block in me. She said I rub things under her nose, so I didn't want to send her a pic of us sitting at the airport lounge. On arrival we went out of dinner to a new spot she actually specifically talked about before. I didn't want to send pics of the food. What if we spent too much? Would that be rubbing it under her nose? Suddenly everything I did felt like I was in the wrong and I was no longer able to share my life with her, because who knows what else I'd done in the past which was too much for her to handle? So I basically just parked this whole thing in my mind to deal with later and tried to enjoy my time away. A few days after getting back home, she messaged me again asking if I cared to discuss what happened at all. I replied politely and told her that I don't really know what to say and it still hasn't settled enough in me plus I'm busy catching up on life and work after returning from my trip (which she knew the length of) She said we should meet in person to discuss, but I told her I genuinely don't have time to know go out in the evening for this as I've only just got back and my other daughter terribly missed me and I just generally have a lot on. She became very accusatory again especially about the fact that I didn't respond at all for nearly two weeks (she said two weeks, it was a week and a half) and somehow I ended up reading more of how I did something wrong and how bad she felt during this time and that I shouldn't have just disappeared like that. I tried not to take offence, but it seemed a bit harsh from someone who was trying to mend things. So I told her I felt bad too, I just couldn't bring myself dealing with what she said as I feel like I can't be myself with her anymore. We try to text now regularly, but it's somewhat forced. It feels very awkward and I don't enjoy sharing anything with her. We got our car stolen a few months back and we recently got a brand new, better car and she was very interested in it previously. The car arrived after our fall out and she casually asked what it's like to drive it. I told her I think it's best not to analyse it as the new car is too expensive and I don't want to rub anything under her nose. She then stopped replying for a few days. I reached out afterwards to meet in person finally in the hope that I'd feel differently about her or I don't really know what I expected really. We met and I don't think we discussed anything in more detail or better just because we were face to face. There was some crying, but mostly we just both tried to make the other one understand why we are hurt. We left, I texted her again the next day and we messaged since, but it's not the same. It's awful actually. I'm only texting out of some obligatory feeling. I lost a very good friend over such a stupid thing and I can't believe it's happening. We have a few things in the calendar lined up, which we haven't discussed. We take turns spending Christmas lunch at each others every year and it's their turn to host this year. We have shows booked and our children are similar ages, they are good friends and we always maintained that they see each other regularly. I think she wants the friendship to continue, but something has broken between us and I guess I can keep going like this; in a forced, uncomfortable manner but I'm looking for advice on how to get past it and feel free and comfortable again spending time with her. Right now I always just feel like any moment I can say or do something that constitutes entitled and will cross her boundaries over what is or isn't allowed. If she wasn't important to me, I could just let this all go, but I'm really struggling to let my hurt and anger, but mostly sadness go away so we can just be happy friends again planning our next adventure.

OP posts:
Funnywonder · 02/12/2025 16:44

Did you really need to quote the OP @Mapletree1985, considering it’s the extended mix of War and Peace?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/12/2025 16:44

HeadyLamarr · 02/12/2025 14:36

You created all the drama. Who can be arsed with all that crying and blanking her and all that nonsense?

This.

MowingMachine · 02/12/2025 16:45

I have a friend who is stupidly rich (inherited wealth). She never pulls rank on anybody, she's happy to muck in with the group's plans. We're doing some basic camping? She comes along. We're staying in a hostel because we're on a walking holiday and it suits everyone? She tucks into her bunkbed.

You seem quite precious, OP, and maybe your friend had enough of it. She then tried to row back, but now you're being petty.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 02/12/2025 16:46

YouBelongHere · 02/12/2025 16:19

To be fair I wouldn't expect the birthday girl to sleep on the sofa for her birthday trip, no...

Well, then the birthday girl shouldn't have suggested it. Very selfish of her and then having a tantrum bc the OP quite reasonably said that it only had 2 bedrooms.

I wouldn't want to be friends with the birthday girl.

BatshitOutofHell · 02/12/2025 16:46

Delphiniumandlupins · 02/12/2025 16:33

I think you were trying to be helpful, saying you didn't mind paying a bit more to have a room to yourself, but it does sound as if you have made a bit of a thing about your wealth. If you had said "I am a really bad sleeper/snore/messy and happy to pay for an extra room" it would have landed better. You haven't taken on board why your friend was upset and haven't tried to meet her half way when she has apologised. If your friends can both afford to pay their share of the proposed trip, it doesn't matter whether you're a multimillionaire. Have you asked the third friend if you have a habit of showing off? If you're genuinely sorry, stop being so dramatic, and mend the friendship.

Having been in a similar situation myself I can assure you that there is nothing she could have said that wouldn't make it look as though she was rubbing their noses in her good fortune. It is really sad, but I have concluded that if you become successful you have to associate with other successful people because other people will see you as "awful" even if you're not. It's really hard because you might not want to associate with different people. You want your old friends, but it can't be helped.

Someone did this to me. I helped them out financially and never mentioned it because the money didn't matter to me. I loved them and wanted to help them, but, unknown to me, they harboured a secret resentment where they were constantly comparing themselves with me, their life with mine. And then one time they couldn't help themselves and it all exploded. It was so ugly. If it hasn't happened to you it is difficult to imagine how awful it is when someone you love and care for does this to you. I went to a very dark place, and was second guessing every action I took, everything I said, every thought. Now that the friend is "better" having resolved their difficulty they keep saying how wonderful I am etc. I try to accept it but deep down it will never be the same for me. And I will never ever help them or anybody else financially because I now understand what the consequences of doing so can be. And it it just isn't worth it. Now I keep every penny I earn for myself. It's quite difficult because money doesn't mean that much to me and I don't need much.

I am not that wealthy, by the way, but having grown up in abject poverty I am much better off than a lot of people I grew up with.

Redburnett · 02/12/2025 16:47

I think you may have a problem if you find it necessary to write such a lengthy piece about a muddle over a birthday weekend..........

Wheretoholiday71 · 02/12/2025 16:48

Mondura · 02/12/2025 14:04

a long one..

My friend and I have known each other for 17 years. We both live in the UK. We’ve had a wider friendship circle since our twenties when we met but ppl move away and their lives end up going in different directions so it's not a strong group of friends anymore. I’d say she’s been a constant, supportive presence in my life throughout these years and we’ve never fallen out until a couple of months ago. I’m not even sure how things got to this point. She is turning 40 soon (a few months before me) and together with a third friend we were trying to organise something to celebrate her birthday. We all had some ideas, put them in the group chat but she decided she just wanted something simple, like going away to a cottage, just the three of us, have a few drinks, dinner, stay a night or two and just chat, laugh relax, etc. Great, nothing complicated or so I thought. Our third friend and I suggested a country pub with rooms which we’ve both been very impressed by previously, it had other locations in the UK, great service, lovely atmosphere, we were very keen to make the most of it. Our third friend sent some links and she highlighted some of the rooms have two beds, she’ll try and find maybe a family room, but can’t see a cottage on the grounds with multiple rooms. Fine, nothing has been decided and I said I’m happy to take a separate room maybe next to them and don’t mind the extra cost if they prefer sharing the two-bed one. We’ve known each other for a long time, all three of us know that I can afford a bit more in life in general. It hasn’t always been the case, we worked hard for the money we have, run a business, take risks etc. that’s not to say, they are poor, they can both afford luxury holidays, meals out, lovely clothes etc, so none of these things have ever really been an issue. My friend, the birthday girl, didn’t reply to my suggestion to book two rooms, we were all in a rush to do things that morning anyway, we knew it wasn’t going to be finalised so just left it. She then sent another link to the chat a few days later with an Airbnb link for another, cheaper cottage. We all liked it, lovely place, location, great! I was going away a few days later but was keen to finalise something for my friend so we'd have it locked in the calendar and had this short getaway to look forward to so instead of packing and getting myself organised, I prioritised this trip and started my morning looking into booking this. I told them that I’m happy to advance the payment and they can just transfer it later, I just wanted to look through the listing again to make sure it’s all to our liking and needs and I’m ready to book it. My friend messaged back that it’s fine and if it’s ok if she transfers her share the following month. I said ok. Then I was looking for the room configuration on the listing which was a bit hard to figure out, but I found it and it was a cottage with two double bedrooms and a living room with a sofa (not pull out). I sent in a screenshot with the caption “this one only has two bedrooms”. This is where things kicked off. She seemed to have gotten really upset and replied that I should just find another one then. I didn’t reply as I sensed that she was upset. We generally text or call each other almost every day, often multiple times a day, so I can read between the lines, she was not happy. I said I can look for something else, but not until I come back from my upcoming trip a week later so we can park this for now if that’s what she wants. She then messaged again saying it’s best to cancel the whole thing, all of us have different needs, she doesn’t want to go away any more, just a simple dinner is fine. I didn’t reply, because I was busy getting myself ready, I was already short on sleep and had a lot to do, I didn’t want to engage in discussing it further. It was clear that the booking wasn’t going to go ahead then. So I didn’t respond, she then private messaged me and said the same thing that it’s best to not go ahead at all with the plans. It’s her call of course, but then I replied saying I don’t understand and I don’t think it’s fair to now just shut it all down when we’ve all planned so much and looked forward to this ( took forever to find dates that suited us all). We were ready to book and it sounded like the ‘everyone has different needs’ is aimed at me as if my needs were too much. I said I don’t mind looking for a bigger cottage and I’ll just pay the difference for the third room if that’s the issue as it’s no problem for me. I was very polite and I tried to come up with a solution though I didn’t really understand why she got so agitated so suddenly. She then became pretty abusive saying she knows I can afford it, I rub this under their noses all the time. Last time when our other friend sent a link, I also told them I can afford a separate room for myself and that’s it’s not cool and I should really have a think about how I communicate because I come across entitled. I was shocked and started crying. I was totally oblivious to this if it was the case and really I thought I'm just booking a trip for my best friend and doing my best to be flexible.I scrolled back in the messages to see if I was rude or what exactly I said but I genuinely just stated that I don’t mind going for an extra room for myself. She knows I’m an awful sleeper, I send her screenshots of my sleep stats often and we analyse it together, I usually need a dark, quiet room and although we have shared rooms and even bed together in the past, I’d rather pay for my comfort levels approaching our 40s if we can afford it. Clearly her main issue was not me wanting a separate room, but it was deeper than that. It just seems she never expressed these to me. I stopped responding. I saw her last message later on where she says I’ve been the one person who is closest to her in the past 20 years and that she loves me, sort of like a half-assed apology where she probably realised how overboard she went. But I just couldn’t continue writing anything after all this and I had a lot to do that day anyway. I shouldn't have started the day with this booking as I had a lot on. She then tried to ring me in the afternoon and again in the evening, but I was on the school run in the afternoon, then took a sedative for the night (I don't often do this), but I had to calm down somehow and it was important that I had a good night's sleep before an early start to my flight. Over a week went past and I didn't contact her. In fact I muted her chat and the other chat too, which had all three of us in originally as I just couldn't deal with the drama plus I was away with my daughter, I didn't really have time to myself to dive into this whole 'who said what and why' saga.I also didn't want this to ruin my time away with my daughter though it definitely overshadowed it. I cried a lot at night or when she couldn't see me. I also didn't really know what to write tbh. I don't often post on social media, so whenever I snap pictures of what I do, where I am, what I eat etc, I just send a few to some selected friends and my husband. So this friend would've in normal circumstances received a lot of pics from my trip away, but I just had such a block in me. She said I rub things under her nose, so I didn't want to send her a pic of us sitting at the airport lounge. On arrival we went out of dinner to a new spot she actually specifically talked about before. I didn't want to send pics of the food. What if we spent too much? Would that be rubbing it under her nose? Suddenly everything I did felt like I was in the wrong and I was no longer able to share my life with her, because who knows what else I'd done in the past which was too much for her to handle? So I basically just parked this whole thing in my mind to deal with later and tried to enjoy my time away. A few days after getting back home, she messaged me again asking if I cared to discuss what happened at all. I replied politely and told her that I don't really know what to say and it still hasn't settled enough in me plus I'm busy catching up on life and work after returning from my trip (which she knew the length of) She said we should meet in person to discuss, but I told her I genuinely don't have time to know go out in the evening for this as I've only just got back and my other daughter terribly missed me and I just generally have a lot on. She became very accusatory again especially about the fact that I didn't respond at all for nearly two weeks (she said two weeks, it was a week and a half) and somehow I ended up reading more of how I did something wrong and how bad she felt during this time and that I shouldn't have just disappeared like that. I tried not to take offence, but it seemed a bit harsh from someone who was trying to mend things. So I told her I felt bad too, I just couldn't bring myself dealing with what she said as I feel like I can't be myself with her anymore. We try to text now regularly, but it's somewhat forced. It feels very awkward and I don't enjoy sharing anything with her. We got our car stolen a few months back and we recently got a brand new, better car and she was very interested in it previously. The car arrived after our fall out and she casually asked what it's like to drive it. I told her I think it's best not to analyse it as the new car is too expensive and I don't want to rub anything under her nose. She then stopped replying for a few days. I reached out afterwards to meet in person finally in the hope that I'd feel differently about her or I don't really know what I expected really. We met and I don't think we discussed anything in more detail or better just because we were face to face. There was some crying, but mostly we just both tried to make the other one understand why we are hurt. We left, I texted her again the next day and we messaged since, but it's not the same. It's awful actually. I'm only texting out of some obligatory feeling. I lost a very good friend over such a stupid thing and I can't believe it's happening. We have a few things in the calendar lined up, which we haven't discussed. We take turns spending Christmas lunch at each others every year and it's their turn to host this year. We have shows booked and our children are similar ages, they are good friends and we always maintained that they see each other regularly. I think she wants the friendship to continue, but something has broken between us and I guess I can keep going like this; in a forced, uncomfortable manner but I'm looking for advice on how to get past it and feel free and comfortable again spending time with her. Right now I always just feel like any moment I can say or do something that constitutes entitled and will cross her boundaries over what is or isn't allowed. If she wasn't important to me, I could just let this all go, but I'm really struggling to let my hurt and anger, but mostly sadness go away so we can just be happy friends again planning our next adventure.

I scanned through it as the post was too long.
Seems like she was probably just a bit upset because originally the place you both suggested meant that you would be in 2 rooms, but then the cottage she suggests has 2 rooms and it's a problem, you want 3 rooms, maybe she would have liked her own room and that could have been accommodated in the cottage. Split the bill 3 ways but allow her to have the seperate room as a birthday treat? Rather than the whole well I can afford it so Ill book my own. Suggesting the cottage doesnt suit so you'll look for a 3 room place leads me to think you didnt want to share a room.

Basically she snapped a little bit as it was becoming frustrating to book her birthday, she then tried to speak to you, explain why she was upset, carry on, solve things and you totally ignored her for a week and a half, I mean we are all busy but a simple text to say I have a busy few days away with DD but I will give you a call as soon as we are home when the dust settles.

Your comments about the new car being too expensive and not answering the basic question she asked about it seems really off...please tell me you didnt actually say to her that the car is too expensive?

It seems a really weird situation to be honest.

Jazz7 · 02/12/2025 16:50

Perhaps your friend has something going on in her life that you don’t know about which made her more likely to flare up. If you have known each other so long and she knows about your sleep problems perhaps it would have been more tactful to say happy to have a separate room for that reason. Why mention costs at all and certainly not the second time. Not so much rude as unnecessary and then again offering to book and them pay you later may have added to that if she’s a bit stressed and more easily irritated than usual.

If the last place had two doubles what’s the problem if you were prepared to go with that for the first place? Presumably the other two could read and see same screen shots as you and were ok with that so why query it? Could have come over as you being picky about something birthday girl really fancied.

Seems you both over reacted a bit. Surely not worth losing a long term good friend over this?

IsThisTheWaytoSlamMyPillow · 02/12/2025 16:50

I read all of it. Harsh, but you are in the wrong here. Your friend wanted to arrange something for her 40th. It wasn’t to your liking (but it’s not your birthday or celebration). She then found somewhere else and you kindly offered to advance the money to book it.

Sorted, friend relaxes. Except it’s not sorted because you don’t approve of this place either. So nothing is booked and you can’t find somewhere else because you’re ‘too busy on holiday’ and then ghost her.

Essentially you’ve taken over her 40th celebration and by offering to advance the payment, ended up controlling it and now nothing’s booked.

Unless she and the other friend went ‘argh, fuck@Monduralet’s do something just the two of us’, which is what I’d have done TBH.

To save the friendship you need to eat some humble pie, gain some self awareness, realise everyone works hard even if they have less ready money and stop ignoring people when you don’t get your own way.
You also need to be an adult and ensure both of your DCs friendship isn’t ruined by this.

Your friend reached out A LOT to try and save this and you doubled down and ignored her. That’s really sad - you only need to see posts on here from people who struggle with forming friendships to know a 17-year one is priceless. Don’t throw it away.

GrandHighVitch · 02/12/2025 16:50

I think YABU. It was your friend’s birthday, but you and your other friend decided you wanted to do something more than what your friend actually wanted. She then came up with another suggestion and you stomped all over that as well. You keep mentioning money which is going to grate on most people, but especially when it comes to stomping all over what she actually wants to do and what she wanted to book.

You then ignored and/or dismissed her messages for almost two weeks. Then you make a bitchy comment about your car to her.

You seem totally unaware of how she feels and have made excuse after excuse about why you can’t message her, talk to her, respond to her… I feel sorry for her. All she wanted was a nice getaway in a cosy cottage with her friends but none of it was good enough for you and now you’ve ruined that for her.

Tiswa · 02/12/2025 16:54

Can I be honest the more I read it the more you do come across as thinking you are better the car comment was potentially her trying to find common ground and you shut her down. She says you stonewall her and muted her and refused to talk to her and you nitpick the time that was (and frankly given you refused to answer and muted her the 3 day difference is moot)
then there is a whole load about your hurt and anger but no self reflection at all

BatshitOutofHell · 02/12/2025 16:55

I thought I'd run it by ChatGPT. This is their take on it:

Who is “in the wrong”?
Primarily the birthday friend — but not out of malice.
She:

  • overreacted suddenly
  • projected her own insecurity about money and status
  • accused the narrator of being entitled without evidence
  • escalated the situation after the narrator tried to de-escalate
  • then blamed the narrator for needing time and space
It was disproportionate and unfair. However, her behaviour looks driven by:
  • shame
  • comparison
  • fear of being “less than”
  • anxiety about turning 40
  • unprocessed resentment about finances
It’s not villainy — it’s emotional dysregulation. The narrator is not in the wrong. They:
  • tried to book the trip
  • offered to pay up front
  • accommodated room preferences
  • stayed polite
  • stepped back when attacked
  • tried to repair
  • attended the in-person conversation
Their only “mistake,” if you can call it that, was going silent for a week and a half — but honestly, that was self-protection, not cruelty, and entirely understandable after being blindsided. Silence isn’t ideal, but it’s not “wrong.” The third friend? Neutral. Not involved in the conflict. So the real breakdown: This was not a conflict about:
  • rooms
  • cottages
  • money
  • who pays what
This was a conflict about unspoken insecurity. The friend’s accusation — “you rub your money in our faces” — came out of nowhere because it had been simmering, unvoiced, for years. The moment the narrator suggested a second room, it hit the friend’s raw nerve. The explosiveness = the feeling was old, not new.
MowingMachine · 02/12/2025 16:56

Oh god with the Chat GPT 🙄

Chat GPT is no good at reading between the lines. And it takes OP's version as testament.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 02/12/2025 16:57

I did read it all and whilst originally I could see your point you then kind of blew it up further and further and now it seems in unsalvageable. I’m not sure what you should do now. You’ve booked things together with your family so I guess you’re going to have to attend. What’s probably needed is a big truth session where she admits she’s jealous and you admit you’re hurt.

WizardOfAus · 02/12/2025 16:57

The car arrived after our fall out and she casually asked what it's like to drive it. I told her I think it's best not to analyse it as the new car is too expensive and I don't want to rub anything under her nose.

are you serious?!

YouBelongHere · 02/12/2025 16:58

IMustDoMoreExercise · 02/12/2025 16:46

Well, then the birthday girl shouldn't have suggested it. Very selfish of her and then having a tantrum bc the OP quite reasonably said that it only had 2 bedrooms.

I wouldn't want to be friends with the birthday girl.

Fair enough - tbf the bedroom set up isn't clear, we just know there were 2 bedrooms, no idea of actual amount of beds

VIOLETPUGH · 02/12/2025 16:59

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Cardinalita90 · 02/12/2025 16:59

If you had time to talk to her every day multiple times a day before it happened, you have had time to iron this out since you got back. You were clearly punishing her through silence so at least own that.

Brushing this under the carpet will rot your friendship. Have another conversation in person, both apologise, and move on. Is this really worth sacrificing a good friendship for?

LoveWine123 · 02/12/2025 17:00

You are completely in the wrong purely for refusing to communicate when your friend tried so hard to talk to you and resolve things. You have every excuse in the book to complications her and disengage.

BatshitOutofHell · 02/12/2025 17:01

WizardOfAus · 02/12/2025 16:57

The car arrived after our fall out and she casually asked what it's like to drive it. I told her I think it's best not to analyse it as the new car is too expensive and I don't want to rub anything under her nose.

are you serious?!

This doesn't mean that she told her friend the car was too expensive. What she probably said to her friend was that it was best not to analyse it, but in her mind thought that she would be accused of being entitled if she talked about it. She did exactly what I would do. I would nip the conversation in the bud after friends outburst She can never talk to her friend about enjoying things she's bought again where before she thought her friend was getting as much enjoyment out of talking about it as she did. Now she knows that her friend hates her for it.

MowingMachine · 02/12/2025 17:01

I'm getting "I am considerably richer than yow!" vibes, for those that remember 😆

muggart · 02/12/2025 17:01

BatshitOutofHell · 02/12/2025 16:55

I thought I'd run it by ChatGPT. This is their take on it:

Who is “in the wrong”?
Primarily the birthday friend — but not out of malice.
She:

  • overreacted suddenly
  • projected her own insecurity about money and status
  • accused the narrator of being entitled without evidence
  • escalated the situation after the narrator tried to de-escalate
  • then blamed the narrator for needing time and space
It was disproportionate and unfair. However, her behaviour looks driven by:
  • shame
  • comparison
  • fear of being “less than”
  • anxiety about turning 40
  • unprocessed resentment about finances
It’s not villainy — it’s emotional dysregulation. The narrator is not in the wrong. They:
  • tried to book the trip
  • offered to pay up front
  • accommodated room preferences
  • stayed polite
  • stepped back when attacked
  • tried to repair
  • attended the in-person conversation
Their only “mistake,” if you can call it that, was going silent for a week and a half — but honestly, that was self-protection, not cruelty, and entirely understandable after being blindsided. Silence isn’t ideal, but it’s not “wrong.” The third friend? Neutral. Not involved in the conflict. So the real breakdown: This was not a conflict about:
  • rooms
  • cottages
  • money
  • who pays what
This was a conflict about unspoken insecurity. The friend’s accusation — “you rub your money in our faces” — came out of nowhere because it had been simmering, unvoiced, for years. The moment the narrator suggested a second room, it hit the friend’s raw nerve. The explosiveness = the feeling was old, not new.

yes but it’s basically parroting the OP perspective and making up some stuff to justify it. chat gpt isn’t good at this sort of thing

MrTiddlesTheCat · 02/12/2025 17:02

The short version:

You tried to make your friend's birthday weekend away all about you. She called you out on it. You punished her by ghosting her for a fortnight and you're now holding a grudge and making snide comments about it.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 02/12/2025 17:02

I started reading this but gave up.

You must use paragraphs, especially with such a very long post.

Pollqueen · 02/12/2025 17:03

Really tried, but lost the will 2/3 way in. Can you re post with paragraphs?

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