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My best friend of nearly 20 years and I have fallen out

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Mondura · 02/12/2025 14:04

a long one..

My friend and I have known each other for 17 years. We both live in the UK. We’ve had a wider friendship circle since our twenties when we met but ppl move away and their lives end up going in different directions so it's not a strong group of friends anymore. I’d say she’s been a constant, supportive presence in my life throughout these years and we’ve never fallen out until a couple of months ago. I’m not even sure how things got to this point. She is turning 40 soon (a few months before me) and together with a third friend we were trying to organise something to celebrate her birthday. We all had some ideas, put them in the group chat but she decided she just wanted something simple, like going away to a cottage, just the three of us, have a few drinks, dinner, stay a night or two and just chat, laugh relax, etc. Great, nothing complicated or so I thought. Our third friend and I suggested a country pub with rooms which we’ve both been very impressed by previously, it had other locations in the UK, great service, lovely atmosphere, we were very keen to make the most of it. Our third friend sent some links and she highlighted some of the rooms have two beds, she’ll try and find maybe a family room, but can’t see a cottage on the grounds with multiple rooms. Fine, nothing has been decided and I said I’m happy to take a separate room maybe next to them and don’t mind the extra cost if they prefer sharing the two-bed one. We’ve known each other for a long time, all three of us know that I can afford a bit more in life in general. It hasn’t always been the case, we worked hard for the money we have, run a business, take risks etc. that’s not to say, they are poor, they can both afford luxury holidays, meals out, lovely clothes etc, so none of these things have ever really been an issue. My friend, the birthday girl, didn’t reply to my suggestion to book two rooms, we were all in a rush to do things that morning anyway, we knew it wasn’t going to be finalised so just left it. She then sent another link to the chat a few days later with an Airbnb link for another, cheaper cottage. We all liked it, lovely place, location, great! I was going away a few days later but was keen to finalise something for my friend so we'd have it locked in the calendar and had this short getaway to look forward to so instead of packing and getting myself organised, I prioritised this trip and started my morning looking into booking this. I told them that I’m happy to advance the payment and they can just transfer it later, I just wanted to look through the listing again to make sure it’s all to our liking and needs and I’m ready to book it. My friend messaged back that it’s fine and if it’s ok if she transfers her share the following month. I said ok. Then I was looking for the room configuration on the listing which was a bit hard to figure out, but I found it and it was a cottage with two double bedrooms and a living room with a sofa (not pull out). I sent in a screenshot with the caption “this one only has two bedrooms”. This is where things kicked off. She seemed to have gotten really upset and replied that I should just find another one then. I didn’t reply as I sensed that she was upset. We generally text or call each other almost every day, often multiple times a day, so I can read between the lines, she was not happy. I said I can look for something else, but not until I come back from my upcoming trip a week later so we can park this for now if that’s what she wants. She then messaged again saying it’s best to cancel the whole thing, all of us have different needs, she doesn’t want to go away any more, just a simple dinner is fine. I didn’t reply, because I was busy getting myself ready, I was already short on sleep and had a lot to do, I didn’t want to engage in discussing it further. It was clear that the booking wasn’t going to go ahead then. So I didn’t respond, she then private messaged me and said the same thing that it’s best to not go ahead at all with the plans. It’s her call of course, but then I replied saying I don’t understand and I don’t think it’s fair to now just shut it all down when we’ve all planned so much and looked forward to this ( took forever to find dates that suited us all). We were ready to book and it sounded like the ‘everyone has different needs’ is aimed at me as if my needs were too much. I said I don’t mind looking for a bigger cottage and I’ll just pay the difference for the third room if that’s the issue as it’s no problem for me. I was very polite and I tried to come up with a solution though I didn’t really understand why she got so agitated so suddenly. She then became pretty abusive saying she knows I can afford it, I rub this under their noses all the time. Last time when our other friend sent a link, I also told them I can afford a separate room for myself and that’s it’s not cool and I should really have a think about how I communicate because I come across entitled. I was shocked and started crying. I was totally oblivious to this if it was the case and really I thought I'm just booking a trip for my best friend and doing my best to be flexible.I scrolled back in the messages to see if I was rude or what exactly I said but I genuinely just stated that I don’t mind going for an extra room for myself. She knows I’m an awful sleeper, I send her screenshots of my sleep stats often and we analyse it together, I usually need a dark, quiet room and although we have shared rooms and even bed together in the past, I’d rather pay for my comfort levels approaching our 40s if we can afford it. Clearly her main issue was not me wanting a separate room, but it was deeper than that. It just seems she never expressed these to me. I stopped responding. I saw her last message later on where she says I’ve been the one person who is closest to her in the past 20 years and that she loves me, sort of like a half-assed apology where she probably realised how overboard she went. But I just couldn’t continue writing anything after all this and I had a lot to do that day anyway. I shouldn't have started the day with this booking as I had a lot on. She then tried to ring me in the afternoon and again in the evening, but I was on the school run in the afternoon, then took a sedative for the night (I don't often do this), but I had to calm down somehow and it was important that I had a good night's sleep before an early start to my flight. Over a week went past and I didn't contact her. In fact I muted her chat and the other chat too, which had all three of us in originally as I just couldn't deal with the drama plus I was away with my daughter, I didn't really have time to myself to dive into this whole 'who said what and why' saga.I also didn't want this to ruin my time away with my daughter though it definitely overshadowed it. I cried a lot at night or when she couldn't see me. I also didn't really know what to write tbh. I don't often post on social media, so whenever I snap pictures of what I do, where I am, what I eat etc, I just send a few to some selected friends and my husband. So this friend would've in normal circumstances received a lot of pics from my trip away, but I just had such a block in me. She said I rub things under her nose, so I didn't want to send her a pic of us sitting at the airport lounge. On arrival we went out of dinner to a new spot she actually specifically talked about before. I didn't want to send pics of the food. What if we spent too much? Would that be rubbing it under her nose? Suddenly everything I did felt like I was in the wrong and I was no longer able to share my life with her, because who knows what else I'd done in the past which was too much for her to handle? So I basically just parked this whole thing in my mind to deal with later and tried to enjoy my time away. A few days after getting back home, she messaged me again asking if I cared to discuss what happened at all. I replied politely and told her that I don't really know what to say and it still hasn't settled enough in me plus I'm busy catching up on life and work after returning from my trip (which she knew the length of) She said we should meet in person to discuss, but I told her I genuinely don't have time to know go out in the evening for this as I've only just got back and my other daughter terribly missed me and I just generally have a lot on. She became very accusatory again especially about the fact that I didn't respond at all for nearly two weeks (she said two weeks, it was a week and a half) and somehow I ended up reading more of how I did something wrong and how bad she felt during this time and that I shouldn't have just disappeared like that. I tried not to take offence, but it seemed a bit harsh from someone who was trying to mend things. So I told her I felt bad too, I just couldn't bring myself dealing with what she said as I feel like I can't be myself with her anymore. We try to text now regularly, but it's somewhat forced. It feels very awkward and I don't enjoy sharing anything with her. We got our car stolen a few months back and we recently got a brand new, better car and she was very interested in it previously. The car arrived after our fall out and she casually asked what it's like to drive it. I told her I think it's best not to analyse it as the new car is too expensive and I don't want to rub anything under her nose. She then stopped replying for a few days. I reached out afterwards to meet in person finally in the hope that I'd feel differently about her or I don't really know what I expected really. We met and I don't think we discussed anything in more detail or better just because we were face to face. There was some crying, but mostly we just both tried to make the other one understand why we are hurt. We left, I texted her again the next day and we messaged since, but it's not the same. It's awful actually. I'm only texting out of some obligatory feeling. I lost a very good friend over such a stupid thing and I can't believe it's happening. We have a few things in the calendar lined up, which we haven't discussed. We take turns spending Christmas lunch at each others every year and it's their turn to host this year. We have shows booked and our children are similar ages, they are good friends and we always maintained that they see each other regularly. I think she wants the friendship to continue, but something has broken between us and I guess I can keep going like this; in a forced, uncomfortable manner but I'm looking for advice on how to get past it and feel free and comfortable again spending time with her. Right now I always just feel like any moment I can say or do something that constitutes entitled and will cross her boundaries over what is or isn't allowed. If she wasn't important to me, I could just let this all go, but I'm really struggling to let my hurt and anger, but mostly sadness go away so we can just be happy friends again planning our next adventure.

OP posts:
LittleMi55Nobody · 02/12/2025 18:33

dailyconniptions · 02/12/2025 14:13

I started to read then gave up. Please use paragraphs. It's just way too much without. Sorry.

this...i gave up reading

Isittimeformynapyet · 02/12/2025 18:36

Eightdayz · 02/12/2025 18:20

Our future robot overlord explained it better than the OP did.

But entirely missing the nuances that the human OP included that betrayed her sulky, butthurt behaviour and made everything worse.

Talk about the unreliable narrator!

Pennyfan · 02/12/2025 18:42

The rubbing her nose in the car😱😱😱.How can you say that to a friend-one who hosts you every other Christmas? Going on about how you can afford it? I find the best thing to do in these situations (before the ghosting) is to just pick up the phone and have a proper conversation-realised it’s 2 rooms, can we look for 3? Not endless messages going back and forth and misinterpretations galore. Then you are a bit shitty when you go away-even though you say you were crying with the stress, you just ghosted her! If you want to mend the long friendship, do it, but don’t dwell on how it’s all ‘broken’. You’ve played your part in getting to that point, too.

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 02/12/2025 18:45

She was being an unreasonable drama lama

But she did apologise, and has been trying to contact you since

You are refusing to engage and taking the drama-lama-ing to a higher level

So who is B more U at this point?

You are.

Stop being a baby, you can have a few difficult dash annoying conversations. You don't want to loose a 20 year friendship over this, or if you do, you don't deserve to have it. Money can be an emotive subject, it's just the way it goes.

ALSO - for future ref texts and emails are blunt tools - do not use them to have an argument or express hurt. Pick up the phone, or use the message to say you will pick up the phone when you are able (which should not be in 1.5 weeks, in a case like this.)

ClairDeLaLune · 02/12/2025 18:47

Whatsthatsheila · 02/12/2025 14:23

Next time you have trouble sleeping in a shared room, read your post back 😴😴😴

18 pages! Front and back!!

OP I have read it all (and I have ADHD!), ignore all the PPs who are deficient in their reading and concentration skills.

I do think you are more at fault than her, sorry:

  • It does sound like you mention a lot how you can afford to pay more, you probably think you’re doing her a favour, but it can come across as condescending and stealth boasting.
  • You ghosted her for a week and a half, that’s a long time when you’ve caused upset to someone.
  • The comment about the car was mean and totally unnecessary.

You need to apologise. Properly.

momtoboys · 02/12/2025 18:50

Whatsthatsheila · 02/12/2025 14:32

Mumsnet really needs a laugh reaction emoji. 😂

I was thinking the same thing! 😂

EarthSight · 02/12/2025 18:52

dailyconniptions · 02/12/2025 14:13

I started to read then gave up. Please use paragraphs. It's just way too much without. Sorry.

This 😖

Winter2020 · 02/12/2025 18:52

One thing I identify with in your post is realising that a friend has been harboring resentment. In my case it was not about money but we had a disagreement about something and for the first time I realised she had a back catalogue of resentments.

My friendship didn't survive. I found it quite weird. It reminded me of the dynamic in a romantic relationship where someone could get into a disagreement about something and is reminded of how they behaved at Cristmas 2014 at Aunt Mauds or whatever.

I felt like our disagreement was no big issue but knowing she carried a back catalogue of resentment was too much.

On a different issue you should be mindful in all your relationships about being materialistic. You sound like you think your friend was interested in your new car. Unless she is actually into cars I think this is very unlikely and much more likely that she is trying to be polite/interested. If someone was telling me about their new car I would make all the right noises "how lovely/how exciting", how great it sounds but I would be being polite and actually be totally bored. Would you be genuinely interested in listening to what material goods someone is buying?

flippertygibbet4 · 02/12/2025 18:53

Life is too short OP. We are not perfect, and neither are our friends. There needs to be some forgiveness and flexibility og your side. Your friend of many years means so much to you, that's why you are so hurt! And that's also why you have to forgive and move on. Don't hold her to account or make her feel guilty forever. You aren't blameless, and neither is she. You're both just human beings trying to do their individual best and cocking it up a bit along the way. Do you want her friendship or not? What's more important to you, an abject apology or her friendship? Move on, and let your hurt go. You love her and didn't mean to hurt her. She loves you and didn't mean to hurt you. Don't punish her xxxx

Inthebleakmidwinter1 · 02/12/2025 18:53

Storm in a teacup

Littlemisscapable · 02/12/2025 18:53

ExtraOnions · 02/12/2025 14:20

What a load of fuss about nothing.

essentially ..

You were going for a weekend away, it all got complicated due to dates / location. She found somewhere she liked (eventually) you said it wasn’t suitable, she got fustrated .. suggested you find a different one.. you ignored that message.. when you do eventually reply you said you will look for something when you get back in a weeks time.. after that she said “let’s just cancel the whole thing” (I would probably have done the same)

I think you made it worse by essentially ghosting her for 2 weeks.

Don’t keep saying that you can “pay more” .. I’ve got more income than people I go away with, I never mention that I can afford “better” that the level they have chosen. I make a real effort to not come over as “lady bountiful” - maybe you do make it sound a bit “I’m considerably better off than you”

She tried several times to get in touch and build bridges .. you turned them all down, with a list of fairly weak excuses.

Look, you can do one of two things .. you can think “you know what, we couid both have done better, let’s learn and move on” or you can say “nope, it’s all gone to far, I’m done” .. it’s up to you.

You are not blameless in all this.

Thanks great summary. This is my understanding too. The drama about the sleeping etc. Maybe this is going on longer than just this trip and she has had enough. Rightly or wrongly you are playing a part in this and need to compromise. And get some punctuation please.

venus7 · 02/12/2025 19:00

bitterexwife · 02/12/2025 14:43

I don’t think OP is going to speak to us now….

Well, she has form for that technique!

MowingMachine · 02/12/2025 19:00

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 02/12/2025 18:45

She was being an unreasonable drama lama

But she did apologise, and has been trying to contact you since

You are refusing to engage and taking the drama-lama-ing to a higher level

So who is B more U at this point?

You are.

Stop being a baby, you can have a few difficult dash annoying conversations. You don't want to loose a 20 year friendship over this, or if you do, you don't deserve to have it. Money can be an emotive subject, it's just the way it goes.

ALSO - for future ref texts and emails are blunt tools - do not use them to have an argument or express hurt. Pick up the phone, or use the message to say you will pick up the phone when you are able (which should not be in 1.5 weeks, in a case like this.)

Edited

It's a drama llama ding dong!!!

Nevernonono · 02/12/2025 19:01

venus7 · 02/12/2025 19:00

Well, she has form for that technique!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Butchyrestingface · 02/12/2025 19:04

I told her I think it's best not to analyse it as the new car is too expensive and I don't want to rub anything under her nose.

What exactly were you hoping to achieve. here, @Mondura ?

Pollqueen · 02/12/2025 19:05

Poodlelove · 02/12/2025 17:21

I would all meet up to discuss , were the messages this long when trying to arrange ?

Yes, i second this. Meet in person and discuss/organise. Behave like it's the 1980's then you can't go wrong

Xmasxrackers · 02/12/2025 19:07

OP, every other sentence is you saying you can afford this, or you can afford that, and tbh you’d annoy me too! She has snapped because this weekend was about her and you’ve made it out to sound like you’re showing off your money! Jeez, you blanked for weeks and every time she tries to all about stuff you close her down! I’m not surprised she’s cancelled the whole thing!

SunnySideDeepDown · 02/12/2025 19:07

I think she snapped, apologised and since then you’ve held a grudge and gotten silly about it.

Sorry but this one’s on you.

TidyCyan · 02/12/2025 19:11

Pollqueen · 02/12/2025 19:05

Yes, i second this. Meet in person and discuss/organise. Behave like it's the 1980's then you can't go wrong

They did! They just sulked at each other and left.

Catterbat · 02/12/2025 19:13

Respectfully OP, you sound like a pair of bellends.

Onelifeonly · 02/12/2025 19:13

You've over reacted. She said you're entitled, probably as you kept bringing up what was wrong with the bookings planned / made and then you refused to contact her (something that might take 5 minutes) because you were away / with your daughter / because your other daughter missed you etc. You have hardly put yourself out to repair this!

She might not be referring to money at all - just the fact you're never satisfied with anything.

You need to apologise that you upset her, tell her you were hurt by her use of the word "entitled" and get on with being friends. It's all perfectly possible if you face up to it, admit your faults and apologise.

Madreamigajefa2 · 02/12/2025 19:18

It's her 40th and instead of thinking "I'll pay the difference for HER to have a treat of a room of her own because I know she can't afford it, it's a one off big birthday and she has never ever been the type to expect me to pay for things just because I earn more " you immediately thought of your own comfort and not how to make it special for her at all. Reading your message, I don't think you realise that sometimes it's ok to step up and not just pay your way for things YOU want different.it sounds like she is aware that you just didn't even make the connection about spoiling yourself when it's her birthday, so is trying to move forward and put her hurt aside. I'd advise you to do the same for the sake of your friendship. It sounds like she's not remotely jealous of your lifestyle but of the way you are portraying that your money affords you greater luxury on occasions spent together. When you do things together, to celebrate one of the group, you should be experiencing the same or a lesser quality of experience than the person being celebrated.

latetothefisting · 02/12/2025 19:19

Whatsthatsheila · 02/12/2025 14:23

Next time you have trouble sleeping in a shared room, read your post back 😴😴😴

then she and the friend can analyse it together!

(referring to this little tidbit buried within the wall of text
"She knows I’m an awful sleeper, I send her screenshots of my sleep stats often and we analyse it together.")
Sorry OP, but that's pretty weird.

Honestly it sounds like you and your friend are quite enmeshed, more than most friends with their own families and lives. It doesn't have to be a big falling out, but perhaps a step back to a less intense level of friendship, at least for a few months, might be the best thing.

Daygloboo · 02/12/2025 19:19

Mondura · 02/12/2025 14:04

a long one..

My friend and I have known each other for 17 years. We both live in the UK. We’ve had a wider friendship circle since our twenties when we met but ppl move away and their lives end up going in different directions so it's not a strong group of friends anymore. I’d say she’s been a constant, supportive presence in my life throughout these years and we’ve never fallen out until a couple of months ago. I’m not even sure how things got to this point. She is turning 40 soon (a few months before me) and together with a third friend we were trying to organise something to celebrate her birthday. We all had some ideas, put them in the group chat but she decided she just wanted something simple, like going away to a cottage, just the three of us, have a few drinks, dinner, stay a night or two and just chat, laugh relax, etc. Great, nothing complicated or so I thought. Our third friend and I suggested a country pub with rooms which we’ve both been very impressed by previously, it had other locations in the UK, great service, lovely atmosphere, we were very keen to make the most of it. Our third friend sent some links and she highlighted some of the rooms have two beds, she’ll try and find maybe a family room, but can’t see a cottage on the grounds with multiple rooms. Fine, nothing has been decided and I said I’m happy to take a separate room maybe next to them and don’t mind the extra cost if they prefer sharing the two-bed one. We’ve known each other for a long time, all three of us know that I can afford a bit more in life in general. It hasn’t always been the case, we worked hard for the money we have, run a business, take risks etc. that’s not to say, they are poor, they can both afford luxury holidays, meals out, lovely clothes etc, so none of these things have ever really been an issue. My friend, the birthday girl, didn’t reply to my suggestion to book two rooms, we were all in a rush to do things that morning anyway, we knew it wasn’t going to be finalised so just left it. She then sent another link to the chat a few days later with an Airbnb link for another, cheaper cottage. We all liked it, lovely place, location, great! I was going away a few days later but was keen to finalise something for my friend so we'd have it locked in the calendar and had this short getaway to look forward to so instead of packing and getting myself organised, I prioritised this trip and started my morning looking into booking this. I told them that I’m happy to advance the payment and they can just transfer it later, I just wanted to look through the listing again to make sure it’s all to our liking and needs and I’m ready to book it. My friend messaged back that it’s fine and if it’s ok if she transfers her share the following month. I said ok. Then I was looking for the room configuration on the listing which was a bit hard to figure out, but I found it and it was a cottage with two double bedrooms and a living room with a sofa (not pull out). I sent in a screenshot with the caption “this one only has two bedrooms”. This is where things kicked off. She seemed to have gotten really upset and replied that I should just find another one then. I didn’t reply as I sensed that she was upset. We generally text or call each other almost every day, often multiple times a day, so I can read between the lines, she was not happy. I said I can look for something else, but not until I come back from my upcoming trip a week later so we can park this for now if that’s what she wants. She then messaged again saying it’s best to cancel the whole thing, all of us have different needs, she doesn’t want to go away any more, just a simple dinner is fine. I didn’t reply, because I was busy getting myself ready, I was already short on sleep and had a lot to do, I didn’t want to engage in discussing it further. It was clear that the booking wasn’t going to go ahead then. So I didn’t respond, she then private messaged me and said the same thing that it’s best to not go ahead at all with the plans. It’s her call of course, but then I replied saying I don’t understand and I don’t think it’s fair to now just shut it all down when we’ve all planned so much and looked forward to this ( took forever to find dates that suited us all). We were ready to book and it sounded like the ‘everyone has different needs’ is aimed at me as if my needs were too much. I said I don’t mind looking for a bigger cottage and I’ll just pay the difference for the third room if that’s the issue as it’s no problem for me. I was very polite and I tried to come up with a solution though I didn’t really understand why she got so agitated so suddenly. She then became pretty abusive saying she knows I can afford it, I rub this under their noses all the time. Last time when our other friend sent a link, I also told them I can afford a separate room for myself and that’s it’s not cool and I should really have a think about how I communicate because I come across entitled. I was shocked and started crying. I was totally oblivious to this if it was the case and really I thought I'm just booking a trip for my best friend and doing my best to be flexible.I scrolled back in the messages to see if I was rude or what exactly I said but I genuinely just stated that I don’t mind going for an extra room for myself. She knows I’m an awful sleeper, I send her screenshots of my sleep stats often and we analyse it together, I usually need a dark, quiet room and although we have shared rooms and even bed together in the past, I’d rather pay for my comfort levels approaching our 40s if we can afford it. Clearly her main issue was not me wanting a separate room, but it was deeper than that. It just seems she never expressed these to me. I stopped responding. I saw her last message later on where she says I’ve been the one person who is closest to her in the past 20 years and that she loves me, sort of like a half-assed apology where she probably realised how overboard she went. But I just couldn’t continue writing anything after all this and I had a lot to do that day anyway. I shouldn't have started the day with this booking as I had a lot on. She then tried to ring me in the afternoon and again in the evening, but I was on the school run in the afternoon, then took a sedative for the night (I don't often do this), but I had to calm down somehow and it was important that I had a good night's sleep before an early start to my flight. Over a week went past and I didn't contact her. In fact I muted her chat and the other chat too, which had all three of us in originally as I just couldn't deal with the drama plus I was away with my daughter, I didn't really have time to myself to dive into this whole 'who said what and why' saga.I also didn't want this to ruin my time away with my daughter though it definitely overshadowed it. I cried a lot at night or when she couldn't see me. I also didn't really know what to write tbh. I don't often post on social media, so whenever I snap pictures of what I do, where I am, what I eat etc, I just send a few to some selected friends and my husband. So this friend would've in normal circumstances received a lot of pics from my trip away, but I just had such a block in me. She said I rub things under her nose, so I didn't want to send her a pic of us sitting at the airport lounge. On arrival we went out of dinner to a new spot she actually specifically talked about before. I didn't want to send pics of the food. What if we spent too much? Would that be rubbing it under her nose? Suddenly everything I did felt like I was in the wrong and I was no longer able to share my life with her, because who knows what else I'd done in the past which was too much for her to handle? So I basically just parked this whole thing in my mind to deal with later and tried to enjoy my time away. A few days after getting back home, she messaged me again asking if I cared to discuss what happened at all. I replied politely and told her that I don't really know what to say and it still hasn't settled enough in me plus I'm busy catching up on life and work after returning from my trip (which she knew the length of) She said we should meet in person to discuss, but I told her I genuinely don't have time to know go out in the evening for this as I've only just got back and my other daughter terribly missed me and I just generally have a lot on. She became very accusatory again especially about the fact that I didn't respond at all for nearly two weeks (she said two weeks, it was a week and a half) and somehow I ended up reading more of how I did something wrong and how bad she felt during this time and that I shouldn't have just disappeared like that. I tried not to take offence, but it seemed a bit harsh from someone who was trying to mend things. So I told her I felt bad too, I just couldn't bring myself dealing with what she said as I feel like I can't be myself with her anymore. We try to text now regularly, but it's somewhat forced. It feels very awkward and I don't enjoy sharing anything with her. We got our car stolen a few months back and we recently got a brand new, better car and she was very interested in it previously. The car arrived after our fall out and she casually asked what it's like to drive it. I told her I think it's best not to analyse it as the new car is too expensive and I don't want to rub anything under her nose. She then stopped replying for a few days. I reached out afterwards to meet in person finally in the hope that I'd feel differently about her or I don't really know what I expected really. We met and I don't think we discussed anything in more detail or better just because we were face to face. There was some crying, but mostly we just both tried to make the other one understand why we are hurt. We left, I texted her again the next day and we messaged since, but it's not the same. It's awful actually. I'm only texting out of some obligatory feeling. I lost a very good friend over such a stupid thing and I can't believe it's happening. We have a few things in the calendar lined up, which we haven't discussed. We take turns spending Christmas lunch at each others every year and it's their turn to host this year. We have shows booked and our children are similar ages, they are good friends and we always maintained that they see each other regularly. I think she wants the friendship to continue, but something has broken between us and I guess I can keep going like this; in a forced, uncomfortable manner but I'm looking for advice on how to get past it and feel free and comfortable again spending time with her. Right now I always just feel like any moment I can say or do something that constitutes entitled and will cross her boundaries over what is or isn't allowed. If she wasn't important to me, I could just let this all go, but I'm really struggling to let my hurt and anger, but mostly sadness go away so we can just be happy friends again planning our next adventure.

Im wondering if this friend has always felt a bit that way, and while youve always thought it was great friendship, maybe.she hasnt. Ive had a great friend since we were at secondary school together. We live in different parts of.the country and dont see much of each other any more. Weve always got on great but a couple of times we met up in later years and she said things that surprised.me..They werent awful things but just threw me a bit because i wasnt expecting it. Once she said something ever so slighyly cheeky about my mum whixh i juat didnt wxpect, ans once ahe saos aomething about my hair whwn i was young which came across as very mildly sarky, which i also wasnt expecting. We've never fallen out but it made mecrealise that you cantvreally knowcwhat goes on in the geads ofvthose you think you know. Sometimes you can be a bit complacent in friendships and take things for.granted and maybe thats whst youve done.....assuming thingscthat might not be true.

BetterWithPockets · 02/12/2025 19:22

readingisallowed · 02/12/2025 14:11

Please put paragraphs in your post. No one is going to read a block of text.

I did!