Working families £18k worse off than benefits claimants after budget

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This is madness. Can the last taxpayer in the UK please close the door behind them.

www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/households-on-handouts-to-be-18-000-better-off-than-families-on-modest-wages/ar-AA1RqxlQ

They should be forced to do any work that is going. Too many people take the piss out of their fellow citizens coming up with reason why they can't work. Half benefits and I bet these roles would be filled within a month.

Picking veg does not pay NMW, and you are homeless when the season is over.
Brexit is what is to blame for crops going unpicked, not young men playing XBox at home.

Sources?

Have you ever been involved with the long term unemployed?

Many are unemployable and their number is about 300k, the rest of the 1.6m are churn, short term.

My DD was a carer when she was at Uni, its a complex job, often involving handing out the clients meds & in the community, usually requires a car, which rules out huge numbers of the unemployed.

The main requirement is empathy, which vast numbers don't have (as can be seen on many MN threads) followed by literacy skills, again, many long term employed don't have this.

Tories managed to get huge numbers to leave the sector (vaccines) and many more have left to work in higher paid roles, even in supermarkets.

The Indians and Africans who have come here to look after my neighbour, don't stay, the many Indian women i've met, have all gone home/left care, they simply couldn't live on the money they were earning, same with the African men.

Her care is now done by crisis teams directly employed by the NHS.

Forcing people who are unsuited to care roles, is a quick way to wreck the morale of those who don't want to be in the sector, no one enjoys working with people they would literally have to clean up after.

And if you are feeling ill and need a GP appointment how do you know when to book one. You would have to cancel if work decided they need you Rinse and repeat then you could get worse and end up in A and E

It is my thoughts and lived experience. I have come across lots of people who would take a job if the government didn't give them a comfortable enough live.

Ah, OK. The good old 'thoughts and lived experience.'

The government should test it. Half benefits in April and watch the vacancies disappear. We used to be a nation of shop keepers now we are a nation of piss takers.

THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH JOBS

Aside from errant fathers there seems to be many men who are not prepared to provide for their family and put in the work/ extra hours. Years ago men knew what was expected of them. Of course there are still good men, and well done to them. They are true diamonds.

Feminism allowed this to happen to some extent by shifting responsibility away from men.

Thats because its not about money Its about ideology and the perception that someone elses life is easier because they dont work,

No need to shout. There are loads of jobs people just don't want to do them. They don't want to do them because they can sit at home and live a comfortable life as a piss taker.

Halve benefits in April and watch the number of sex workers triple, crime rates skyrocket, addiction rates double as people's mental health spirals, and your local park turn into a tent city.

Housing benefit needs to be cut. Painful at first but ultimately it will educate people to make wiser decisions.

I am shouting because no one listens.
There are 2.4 jobseekers for every vacancy. There are not enough jobs for everyone to be employed.
No one lives a comfortable life on jobseekers. It is £400pm, even less if you are a younger adult. The incentive to find a job is already there. Being broke is stressful and no way to live.

Alternatively, you could cap private rents. Same benefit to the taxpayer but without the massive rise in sex work, addiction, crime, and homelessness.

You said ppl could pick veg. Picking veg is usually a live away from home job.
With me so far??
It will be mostly ppl on UC expected to do this,You said it yourself and/or ppl who live in social housing. And ive explained why ppl in SH cant live away from home to do it Its them who will be expected to but rules and those pesky tenancy agreements mean they cant. Is that clear enough??????????????

Hey, I guess some people here will say sex work is still work. A job is a job.

Yet another excuse. Let’s carry on then and bankrupt the country anything but have people’s mental health affected.

There are 723,000 job vacancies and apparently 11 million people not working for whatever reason. Although I think only 1.7 million are looking for work.

Yes, I am certain people would have just chosen not to become ill/disabled/suddenly single.

Mental health matters.

You're okay with sex work, homelessness, and crime then? As long as people don't get depressed or anxious?

Yeah, you'll have to excuse me if I decide to not subscribe to your little thought experiment.

Halve benefits in April and the food banks won't be able to cope. Starvation will increase. Children will suffer. Watch the suicide rates go up and the NHS be stretched even further with the consequences of extreme starvation and general poverty-driven ill health.

All this in a so-called developed nation. Great plan. But hey, so long as you can sit back and feel not a penny is going to the so-called undeserving, eh?

It’s called taking responsibility for yourselves rather than expect the taxpayer to pay for everything