Husband wants to leave the uk post budget….

[Maryaliceyoungx]

husband wants to leave and don’t get me wrong - I do see why. We are being hammered in the budget, we drive shitty cars, the rain is shit… life in the UK can be pretty shitty right now. he works for a US based company and I am a US citizen as I was born there and spent my life until my early teens there (parents are British and were working out there) so I see why he wants to go -it would be good for his career and would be potential to make money without the huge tax burden of the UK (company based in low state tax state)

but I don’t want to go… I love my life here. I love our village and my kids lovely village school. My family is here and I worry my parents don’t have so much time left.

however i do have to recognise the money aspect- my husbands job could be impacted by AI so i think he is right in thinking we should max out our earning potential while we can and we just won’t be able to do that here as it will just be taxed away.

aibu for sacrificing potentially huge earnings just because I love village life? Would it even be cheaper? I would insist upon private school in the US(went to state school in the us and have a lot of trauma from that!) and we wouldnt sell our house here so would need to rent. Most recent trip to thr us - over a year ago and cost of living was sky high.

I’ll be honest - couldn’t care about the politics. Politics are shit whereever you go!!

I hope that attention will be focused on the connections between Reform and Russia.

Nathan Gill, former head off Reform in Wales, is headed to prison for 10 years for taking bribes from an asset of the Russian security services. Nigel Farage has ruled out a party investigation into the party culture allowing this. As leaders of all other parties called for the investigation, Sir Ed Davey reminded us that Farage has said on record that the politician he most admires is Vladimir Putin. Farage has made multiple paid appearances on Russia Today and blamed Ukraine forcthe war.

Even if I disagree with them, I think Reform voters are mostly highly patriotic. I don’t think they want a Russian stooge in Downing Street.

Are you sure about that? Trump voters also claim to be highly patriotic, I mean, it doesn't get more cringey and in your face than American "patriots", yet they were happy to accept Trump, who literally bends over for Putin every chance he gets, likely bc Putin has the pics of Trump blowing Bubba 😂

Some of the posts in this thread have been horrible to read. There’s nothing wrong with considering all possible job options, including moving abroad for financial security.

I’m going to sound naive, but is there any chance of your DH getting a better paid job here (which won’t be as well paid as the US job, but would make a considerable difference)? If you like where you live and your children are happy, it’s a huge risk to uproot yourselves away from your family and friends.

My view is that being content and settled is more important than any amount of money. I’m on a very low income but I like where I live, I have a lovely family, supportive friends and I’m happier than many people with more money seem to be.

I agree Putin likely has something compromising on Trump. With Farage and Reform it seems to be more about greed, at least from what we know.

A lot of Trump’s support comes via the evangelical movement, where pastors have a lot of authority. Trump’s promise to appoint a Supreme Court that would rescind Roe v Wade carried the pastors, who exerted their authority.

I wish I was more sure, however

I hope you're right, but I've learned never to underestimate the stupidity of the electorate, regardless of the country, esp if they are disillusioned.

Came to say this. I would do a very detailed, careful, comparative budget before anything else.

So you would be reliant on his jpn for your family income and health insurance. You'd need to save more to cushion against job loss (higher probability given labour laws, less favourable terms for employees).

How old are your children? Do you have a daughter?

Would your family be able to visit (a friend realised her im-laws couldnt because of a criminal record). Would you/he be able to visit them with 20 days?

Would you be able to find a vibe that you loved?

When would you plan to move back here/onwards?

Oh look.
Another high earner wanting to get out of paying their taxes/running away from paying more.

Almost like this has always been the problem after all…

I don’t agree Reform voters are patriotic. No one talks the country down more than Reform and their voters. Just like the MAGA brand of Christianity would revolt actual Christ, Reform has nothing to do with true British values. Nationalism and patriotism aren’t the same. Patriotism is positive and full of pride, and characterised by love. Nationalism is characterised by hate. They’re nationalists.

I don’t think they give a crap about Russia either. They’ve been brainwashed to hate Muslims more than Putin.

How is considering an opportunity in a country i have citizenship to ‘running away’?

The problem isn’t taxes, it’s the lazy freeloaders who act outraged when the people actually working get pissed off about funding them. They sit back doing nothing, screaming about fairness, while everyone else sweats to pay for their existence. It’s like they’ve made a full-time job out of being useless and somehow expect applause for it.

Perhaps I should have said most Reform voters believe they are patriotic. I think this is sincere. I don’t think they want to deliver this country to Putin

In contrast it is difficult to understand how many of Trump’s supporter’s can honestly consider themselves Christian

I'm Scottish and I agree that I love it here

Because your DH doesn't have citizenship, it looks like his issue is paying a lot of tax. You've said you would t work in the USA so yes he's wanting to run away really. Which is fine if that suits but own it.

Ah I think I'm beginning to understand.

Your husband was expecting that the budget would force employers to double everyone's wages, making them equal or higher to those in the USA. And because it hasn't, he naturally feels deeply aggrieved and like Rachel Reeves is on a mission to persecute him by not addressing the difference.

I've never lived in the USA but have found the opinions on both sides here interesting. Would this be a fair summary? -

1. In terms to day to day living, without extraordinary events or expenses, a family with a high earning breadwinner in a high demand profession could be much better off in the USA. Much higher wages, potential for career progression, lower property prices for similarly sized house etc.
2. Longer term, and taking into account extraordinary events and expenses, the balance could tip the other way. You'd need to be putting a lot of that additional income into health insurance, and even after you did you could still be shafted by something the insurance company wouldn't cover. You could face serious burnout risk after a while due to minimal holidays and no workers' rights, with fear of losing your job and whole family's health insurance with it. Greater need for private schooling due to crap state education. Cost of real food when you get sick of eating shite. Ongoing stress of having to fit in and afford trips back to UK to see parents etc.

In which case it might have a lot to do with timescale. Moving to the USA for two years, or five, might be a good way to get some financial buffer under your belt. Moving their permanently, or indefinitely, not so much.

It's then a question of how much you stand to gain from a given amount of time there.

I don’t even want to visit the US. I can’t comprehend anyone wanting to live there.

It’s also an extremely hire and fire culture and not too many protections - so I certainly would want some kind of ‘6 months salary pay off should you not need my services’ kind of thing before I would be interested

Tbh, if her DH was fired, they could always pack up and move back to the UK. They all have British citizenship so they can return anytime.

He works for an American company. It’s not running away if your invited over

I don’t understand the idea that we can never explore another opportunity because we must stay here and pay taxes??

I have.

Agree it’s bizarre

In fairness, your post could simply have said, I’m a dual citizen American living in the UK, my husband works for an American company and believes he could earn way more for our future if we moved to America. I can see his point but I really don’t want to move - I love the UK and village life, I have friends, my primary ages kids are settled here… What would you do?

And then you might have got the ‘wouldn’t go near America if you paid me’ response, but not the accurate observation that you’re thinking of running away from paying tax as a knee jerk response to the budget. Of course you don’t have to stay and pay tax. You guys do you.

As has been said many times before on MN -the US is a very big place with a huge variety of different lifestyles so generalizing about “life in America” is not helpful. After we moved here we were able to buy the size of house that we could only dream of in the UK- and high quality food is readily available including Stilton! ( which I bought for our Thanksgiving meal!)