AIBU that now is the time for us to get behind Kemi?

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Rachel Reeves has broken her promise that new taxes would not be levied on working people. She hasn’t followed through with her promise to prioritise growth. She failed to deliver welfare reform. It is clear that the current government is now led by the newly elected backbenchers. Labour are punishing those of us who work and save, taxing our pensions and making life more expensive for working families. She is making it more difficult for employers to hire staff and graduates in particular are suffering from a lack of opportunity due to her policies.

Keir Starmer failed to get any support for welfare reform from his backbenchers and is coasting politically.

Both Rachel and Keir have shown that political survival means more to them than delivering a budget that grows the economy and helps those of us who work hard and aspire for more. I feel that they hate people like me and my family- we are professionals on two good wages with children, not rich, middle class, trying to improve our lives, prepare for our futures while trying to pay the bills. There is literally nothing in this budget which would help people like me, only punishment (or a ‘contribution’ as Rachel Reeves described it in her budget speech).

Yes, the tories screwed up massively under Boris and Truss. But everything that Kemi is saying about the autumn budget is spot on. Kemi also stood up for women at a time when Labour was gaslighting women across the country in relation to trans issues.

The conservatives have a huge amount of work to do to rebuild trust and develop their policies. But if they don’t gain public support we are risking the chaos of a Reform government. AIBU to say that now is the time to get behind Kemi?

Completely agree-she is vile and I don't think she will ever be PM.

I agree with this, what happened to country over party. They knew perfectly well what needed to be done and then succumbed to the back benchers for political reasons which means the country is being screwed over, again. I really had high hopes for them but they've let the country down.

She comes across as a bully to me, I really don't like her or her party's policies. No thanks.

Kemi Badenoch was equalities minister. The issue of those born male self-identifying as female and expecting to use women's spaces whilst retaining male genitalia was hardly an issue before beginning in the role.

Now remind us what her response to this issue was? Even before you note her willingness to serve under a government whose leader treated women like dirt in his personal life.

Really? They’re polling above Labour. Maybe they’re at zero and it’ll be neither. Does that mean Reform then. She’s polling above Starmer and Reeves too, so on the disliked part they’re much higher on that.

Whatever her tone some will complain it’s too ‘aggressive’ or not strong enough.

After what the Tories did to public services?
Never. Ever.

If people are choosing between her and Farage, I’d rather they choose her.

Labour were so stupid to say taxes wouldn’t rise. They could have won without it given how messed up the tories were.

I think she’s bat shit crazy. No

Tories and Reform: “miracles, the moon on a stick and all the wealth in the world can be yours, if you will kneel and worship me.”
Labour: “We are trying our best to fix the mess left by the last cloudcuckoolander who promised miracles and the moon on a stick.”

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It is a thin record. The Cameron and Osborne government were hit with the global financial crisis and don’t forget the ‘there’s no money left’ note following new labour. Having said that, austerity clearly was a failed project, Brexit couldn’t have been handled much worse and covid was a disaster. None of these are easy circumstances and I make no apologies for the Tories.

Blimey fully funded and all that.

Don't forget Covid & the money that was wasted on that.
(I am still waiting for Michelle Mone to face justice)
And it was completely mishandled from the get go.
Yet Labour face way more vitriol and hatred despite doing things that are no way as bad.
Basically, very wealthy people have done very well over the past few years & don't want those times to end.

Get behind her! - what a joke!

I don’t know. I don’t think so. Watching the budget yesterday I thought to myself, there MUST be a better way than this. All the jeering and yelling and party politics, ‘you did this’ ‘we did that’ argey-bargey oneupmanship nonsense was so irritating. It felt so immature and actually a bit archaic. The whole damned system needs an overhaul. Including the people within it.

i don’t pretend to have a plan for what that might look like, but I’d have a good bash at it for an MP salary 👀

It was like some pantomime, I found it quite offensive, they are announcing serious things that affect people lives and making it all seem like some great big joke

I agree, I hate seeing anything discussed in the Commons.
I thought her speech yesterday was aggressive, rude & ridiculous given the disaster of the Tory years.
But they all do it, just shout, heckle & deliver silly "one upmanship" comments
As you say, it does seem very immature.

In your dreams. Never going to happen, hell'll freeze over first.

The Conservatives are not my party but I have to agree with those praising Kemi Badenoch. Politics is a nasty business. She has a job to do - opposing Labour - and yesterday she did it. Her orchestration of her front-bench team was impressive. She was punchy. Her gestures were perfectly timed. Her comedy landed. She is the only party leader to have said that reducing the deficit should be a major strand of economic policy so the percentage spent on servicing national debt is reduced. My Tory father would be thrilled to hear me say this. There's no point voting for her in my constituency though. We're likely to shift from Labour to Green.

She's bloody awful and to suggest she's a supporter of women given her history when she was literally womens minister is lunacy

But looking forward to the ‘what next’- I agree with everything Kemi says about the economy. I couldn’t say the same about the other parties. So, do you never again vote tory because of their track record? Then would would someone like me who has conservative values vote for? The only answer for me is to support Kemi

It's almost as if we watched completely different things 🤷‍♂️

I thought the same about Saint Boris and his merry men casually discussing lockdown (when they did). Toying with people’s lives, minds, children, businesses, futures, wellbeing, mental health, as if it was one big joke. “We need to just… er… squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze the brakes on reopening”, while people watched their livelihoods crumble around them. “It’s customary to thank people with a toast when they leave, it was essential for work. Now, pleeeeeeeease can we draw a line under the parties?”

I thought the same about Saint Boris and his merry men casually discussing lockdown (when they did). Toying with people’s lives, minds, children, businesses, futures, wellbeing, mental health, as if it was one big joke. “We need to just… er… squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze the brakes on reopening”, while people watched their livelihoods crumble around them. “It’s customary to thank people with a toast when they leave, it was essential for work. Now, pleeeeeeeease can we draw a line under the parties?”

It makes sense but I think you’ll get a lot of rebuttal just due to the thread wording and being on mn. I think she’s slowly pulling them in front of Labour going by polling but it’s Reform who are yards ahead and hard to beat.

I am a bit shocked at myself, TBH. All I have seen previously is her aggression, which was on display yesterday too but with other characteristics I hadn't seen before.