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AIBU that now is the time for us to get behind Kemi?

553 replies

StarlightRobot · 27/11/2025 16:02

Rachel Reeves has broken her promise that new taxes would not be levied on working people. She hasn’t followed through with her promise to prioritise growth. She failed to deliver welfare reform. It is clear that the current government is now led by the newly elected backbenchers. Labour are punishing those of us who work and save, taxing our pensions and making life more expensive for working families. She is making it more difficult for employers to hire staff and graduates in particular are suffering from a lack of opportunity due to her policies.

Keir Starmer failed to get any support for welfare reform from his backbenchers and is coasting politically.

Both Rachel and Keir have shown that political survival means more to them than delivering a budget that grows the economy and helps those of us who work hard and aspire for more. I feel that they hate people like me and my family- we are professionals on two good wages with children, not rich, middle class, trying to improve our lives, prepare for our futures while trying to pay the bills. There is literally nothing in this budget which would help people like me, only punishment (or a ‘contribution’ as Rachel Reeves described it in her budget speech).

Yes, the tories screwed up massively under Boris and Truss. But everything that Kemi is saying about the autumn budget is spot on. Kemi also stood up for women at a time when Labour was gaslighting women across the country in relation to trans issues.

The conservatives have a huge amount of work to do to rebuild trust and develop their policies. But if they don’t gain public support we are risking the chaos of a Reform government. AIBU to say that now is the time to get behind Kemi?

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Kirbert2 · 27/11/2025 16:49

No thanks.

Though if I had to vote for the Tories to keep out Reform then I'd hold my nose and do it. That's the only way I'd ever vote for them.

Rhodesbride · 27/11/2025 16:52

I think she’s brilliant! But I will never forgive the tories for letting this absolute shower of shit labour government get in.
no choice but to get behind reform.

Lazygardener · 27/11/2025 16:53

No.

Avantiagain · 27/11/2025 16:55

"What were her comments about Angela Rayner?"

When Angela Rayner was upset, her spokesperson stating that everyone had a right to know what the personal reasons were.

Annielou67 · 27/11/2025 16:55

It won’t make a jot of difference- the country has so little money, there is little wriggle room left for any party. We will still end up with sticking plaster policies and those with the country’s wealth will be calling the shots.

Freeme31 · 27/11/2025 16:55

No way the reason we are in this mess is 14 years of Kemi and her rich palls

Summerhillsquare · 27/11/2025 16:56

GentleOlive · 27/11/2025 16:08

Kemi may be ok, but she’s surrounded by neo socialists, Labour lite wets who have not a centre right bone in their collective bodies.

They deserve to not be anywhere near power again.

Whether you agree with Farage or not, there is only one way to teach the Tories and Labour a lesson. To vote for Reform. Otherwise these people will think they carry on doing things they are doing.

Deporting people for being foreign is not in any way centre right, it is far right. Not so gentle in your politics eh Olive?

StarlightRobot · 27/11/2025 16:57

@Rhodesbride

In fairness, Labour got in because they lied about not raising taxes and driving growth. The Tories’ failures made it extremely easy for the public to turn to Labour, but it’s not the Tories’ fault that Labour lied and misled the public.

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MzGG · 27/11/2025 16:57

Absolutely not.

Topseyt123 · 27/11/2025 16:58

StarlightRobot · 27/11/2025 16:31

I also wonder what those who are disillusioned with Labour but still furious with the Tories will do. My worry is that they will vote Reform or Green as protest votes, risking yet more instability. I would love to hear from people in those camps.

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I'm in that camp. I'll stick with voting Labour. Kemi Badenoch is dreadful, the Tories are dreadful and Reform are even worse.

Labour for me is the best of a bad choice.

Hoppinggreen · 27/11/2025 16:59

God no

bluewhitebluewhite · 27/11/2025 16:59

Ha ha. No.

smallglassbottle · 27/11/2025 17:00

Tories are dead ducks, as are Labour. Reform are either lunatics or evil, perhaps both. Greens are overt communists. Don't know what the Liberals are, if they're even still going.

Eatinpeachesonthebeaches · 27/11/2025 17:00

I'd only get behind her to push her off a cliff. Even by the standards of recent Tory leaders she's pisspoor.

StarlightRobot · 27/11/2025 17:01

@Annielou67

I agree that the country is in dire straits right now, but it doesn’t need to stay this way. Economies can grow. There are many success stories around the world where economies were in a terrible condition but their prosperity was turned around. We don’t need to stop trying or give up. Greece is a great example of this. See: https://www.imf.org/en/publications/fandd/issues/2025/06/greeces-remarkable-recovery-konstantinos-hatzidakis

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Kirbert2 · 27/11/2025 17:03

Topseyt123 · 27/11/2025 16:58

I'm in that camp. I'll stick with voting Labour. Kemi Badenoch is dreadful, the Tories are dreadful and Reform are even worse.

Labour for me is the best of a bad choice.

This is pretty much how I feel.

They all lie, they all break promises but I'll likely stick with Labour as best out of nothing but bad choices.

GumFossil · 27/11/2025 17:03

I agree with you, OP. She’ll have my vote (not that I voted for the shot show that is labour).

WhiteCatmas · 27/11/2025 17:05

OP, are you out of your tree?

Pollqueen · 27/11/2025 17:09

Well realistically, if Labour don't perform a miracle between now and the next election, we will get a Reform govt. As that appears to be totally unappealing to most MN'ers, we're not left with much choice

I agree with you OP and I'm liking Kemi more and more

And before you all come at me with about the Greens and Lib Dems, well there's no hope for you as they would be worse than this current shitshow

EasternStandard · 27/11/2025 17:10

Pollqueen · 27/11/2025 17:09

Well realistically, if Labour don't perform a miracle between now and the next election, we will get a Reform govt. As that appears to be totally unappealing to most MN'ers, we're not left with much choice

I agree with you OP and I'm liking Kemi more and more

And before you all come at me with about the Greens and Lib Dems, well there's no hope for you as they would be worse than this current shitshow

Yep it’s unlikely to be Labour

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 27/11/2025 17:11

Absolutely not. Ever.

RedRiverShore5 · 27/11/2025 17:11

She may get my vote, she is definitely improving, it will either be a Tory or Reform vote for me, though I preferred Rishi Sunak to be perfectly honest.

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 27/11/2025 17:12

Pollqueen · 27/11/2025 17:09

Well realistically, if Labour don't perform a miracle between now and the next election, we will get a Reform govt. As that appears to be totally unappealing to most MN'ers, we're not left with much choice

I agree with you OP and I'm liking Kemi more and more

And before you all come at me with about the Greens and Lib Dems, well there's no hope for you as they would be worse than this current shitshow

I’d rather have the Greens than Reform or Kemi.

DontGoJasonWaterfalls · 27/11/2025 17:12

Ew no

Chocolatebunny61 · 27/11/2025 17:24

In my opinion Rishi Sunak was beginning to turn things around when he was PM only he wasn’t given long enough to undo all the crap that his predecessors inflicted on us (I’m talking Liz Truss, Bojo, Theresa May). I voted Tory in the last election but for some reason I dislike Kemi Badenoch and I have no idea why she was made leader as I don’t think she is PM material at all. That said Labour are toast, Nigel Farage hasn’t got a clue and is all talk and would be a massive disaster as PM, and the Lib Dem’s are nowhere to be seen. If there was an election tomorrow I honestly do not know who I’d vote for.

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