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AIBU that now is the time for us to get behind Kemi?

553 replies

StarlightRobot · 27/11/2025 16:02

Rachel Reeves has broken her promise that new taxes would not be levied on working people. She hasn’t followed through with her promise to prioritise growth. She failed to deliver welfare reform. It is clear that the current government is now led by the newly elected backbenchers. Labour are punishing those of us who work and save, taxing our pensions and making life more expensive for working families. She is making it more difficult for employers to hire staff and graduates in particular are suffering from a lack of opportunity due to her policies.

Keir Starmer failed to get any support for welfare reform from his backbenchers and is coasting politically.

Both Rachel and Keir have shown that political survival means more to them than delivering a budget that grows the economy and helps those of us who work hard and aspire for more. I feel that they hate people like me and my family- we are professionals on two good wages with children, not rich, middle class, trying to improve our lives, prepare for our futures while trying to pay the bills. There is literally nothing in this budget which would help people like me, only punishment (or a ‘contribution’ as Rachel Reeves described it in her budget speech).

Yes, the tories screwed up massively under Boris and Truss. But everything that Kemi is saying about the autumn budget is spot on. Kemi also stood up for women at a time when Labour was gaslighting women across the country in relation to trans issues.

The conservatives have a huge amount of work to do to rebuild trust and develop their policies. But if they don’t gain public support we are risking the chaos of a Reform government. AIBU to say that now is the time to get behind Kemi?

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TheAutumnCrow · 29/11/2025 10:32

XWKD · 29/11/2025 10:30

With your little £6m house can't you get benefits? I hear they give you 100k a year. That should help.

You get a free Porsche if you say you’ve got a bit of a headache.

TheGrimSmile · 29/11/2025 10:33

She's utterly vile. The Tories need to stop trying to appease the far right.

ImACow · 29/11/2025 10:37

RosesAndHellebores · 29/11/2025 10:31

Introducing a 3p per mile tax/surcharge on EV's is hardly indicative of Labour supporting it.

The labour supporters here say it's because everyone who drives a car needs to pay for road upkeep

CurlewKate · 29/11/2025 10:40

ImACow · 29/11/2025 10:37

The labour supporters here say it's because everyone who drives a car needs to pay for road upkeep

Is that a particularly Labour take?

Pacificsunshine · 29/11/2025 10:43

PluckyChancer · 29/11/2025 10:21

Lol Fuck the Tories to hell and back!

Thank you for the thoughtful contribution to this discussion. 🙄

Ohmygodnotnow · 29/11/2025 11:09

PandoraSocks · 29/11/2025 08:43

I thought IMF bailout by Christmas or Easter was predicted? At least by MN right wingers.

The welfare bill will be 100bn within three years. That is simply unsustainable. If the bond markets take fright and think we can't honour our debt, that is exactly what will happen. Right wing, left wing, we will all be fucked.

MyLimeGuide · 29/11/2025 11:10

Tuls3y · 29/11/2025 10:05

Canvassing for what? Might be a tad lonely.

Nope. Ill be there.

MyLimeGuide · 29/11/2025 11:11

Tuls3y · 29/11/2025 09:53

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TheAutumnCrow · 29/11/2025 11:17

Ohmygodnotnow · 29/11/2025 11:09

The welfare bill will be 100bn within three years. That is simply unsustainable. If the bond markets take fright and think we can't honour our debt, that is exactly what will happen. Right wing, left wing, we will all be fucked.

The Telegraph and Mail are claiming that Reeves lied about the fiscal black hole.

Can’t have it both ways.

Pacificsunshine · 29/11/2025 11:21

MyLimeGuide · 29/11/2025 11:10

Nope. Ill be there.

Same!

ilovesooty · 29/11/2025 11:22

Ohmygodnotnow · 29/11/2025 11:09

The welfare bill will be 100bn within three years. That is simply unsustainable. If the bond markets take fright and think we can't honour our debt, that is exactly what will happen. Right wing, left wing, we will all be fucked.

Currently more than 50% of DWP expenditure is on pensions and related benefits. I don't see what any party can do to take away the fact that we live in an ageing society.

With regard to the OP, I have no time for Badenoch. Many of my reasons for that have been covered already.

Tuls3y · 29/11/2025 11:23

ImACow · 29/11/2025 10:37

The labour supporters here say it's because everyone who drives a car needs to pay for road upkeep

They do don’t they?

Pacificsunshine · 29/11/2025 11:25

TheAutumnCrow · 29/11/2025 11:17

The Telegraph and Mail are claiming that Reeves lied about the fiscal black hole.

Can’t have it both ways.

Sure you can. Rachel did. She’s giving the goodies away up front and has scheduled the tax rises for later.

She was £4.2b up but decided to raise taxes anyway so she could spend on Labour priorities. She tried to pretend it was a black hole, when really it was just her choice.

SumUp · 29/11/2025 11:33

I was tempted to say

“Oh yes Kemi would be great.”

Because if some Mumsnetters are influenced to back the Conservatives, it would help split the right wing vote.

But a Conservative government is such dismal a prospect, I can’t make myself pretend to get behind it.

SumUp · 29/11/2025 11:35

Tuls3y · 29/11/2025 11:23

They do don’t they?

Yes, road upkeep has to be paid for somehow. Charging users of the roads is fairer than using general taxation.

ImACow · 29/11/2025 11:37

SumUp · 29/11/2025 11:35

Yes, road upkeep has to be paid for somehow. Charging users of the roads is fairer than using general taxation.

My main question was on Kemi wanting to scrap net zero

SumUp · 29/11/2025 11:42

ImACow · 29/11/2025 11:37

My main question was on Kemi wanting to scrap net zero

There’s no plan behind the soundbite.

EasternStandard · 29/11/2025 11:51

PluckyChancer · 29/11/2025 10:21

Lol Fuck the Tories to hell and back!

This pretty much sums up the post budget mood for Labour outside this thread

Shakeoffyourchains · 29/11/2025 11:54

I'm surprised to see so much support for a women who thinks lifting children out of poverty and feeding the poor is unchristian tbh, especially from the supposedly traditional Christian right wing 🤷‍♀️

Wishing14 · 29/11/2025 12:03

The thing is, good government isn’t about charity it’s about ensuring longevity of society and the greater good. Short fixes don’t necessarily help long term. Ultimately the difference is political theory, economic theory, and people’s views on human nature and what will/ won’t work. Also positive vs negative freedom which goes a large way to explain the difference between left vs right and why the two ‘sides’ find it impossible to see the other perspective

thetallfairy · 29/11/2025 12:05

TheendofmrY · 27/11/2025 16:03

Unless I missed hell freezing over, no. No it’s not.

X1000

MyLimeGuide · 29/11/2025 12:56

ImACow · 29/11/2025 11:37

My main question was on Kemi wanting to scrap net zero

Another great reason to support her IMO

StarlightLady · 29/11/2025 12:57

MyLimeGuide · 29/11/2025 12:56

Another great reason to support her IMO

And the world for your children will look like?

LizzieW1969 · 29/11/2025 12:59

I’ve just had a look at the latest opinion polls. The Tories may have improved slightly but it’s more about Labour losing support. The story is really about the fall of the two major parties, they’re both on 17%, which is unheard of.

So any talk about a Tory return to power is just slightly premature.

MyLimeGuide · 29/11/2025 13:01

StarlightLady · 29/11/2025 12:57

And the world for your children will look like?

The same probably.