Net migration has decreased from 649,000 to 204,000 in the year to June 2025

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I guess this won’t be shouted about in the news. Such a good thing

Policies they introduced after they opened the floodgates. The numbers are still unsustainable unless the cast majority of those migrants don’t extend their visas and go home. It’s only possible to have high levels of migration if there is high turnover. What we have at the moment is putting huge strain on the settled population, on their communities, the infrastructure they rely on and their cost of living. British citizens are perhaps the only people in the world having to compete in their home job market with an international level of competition. British nurses are unable to get jobs in the hospitals they trained in because Boris Johnson’s government gave the hospitals permission to recruit directly from overseas without advertising locally. He also gave permission for the immigrant nurses and caters to bring unlimited dependants. It’s a spelling situation and the only answer is to say that most work visas are non-renewable.

I gave up with even being bothered with it, along with the benefits, climate change, cost of living and everything else.
All we need now is conscription and ww3 that should top it off.

Not necessarily if high skill people are leaving and low skill people are arriving.

It reads more like middle aged to retirement age are leaving in larger numbers. Is that really a problem? We’ve always exported large numbers of our citizens throughout the world. We appear to have a bottle neck of more senior people in many professions and lots of educated young who could move forwards career wise if there was room.

The last Tory government completely deserves all the blame they get for it. A few ministers towards the end did what they could to stem the flow but overall it was shocking how much they loosened.

People still think there is a requirement to advertise locally for example. That was removed.

People think there are meaningful minimum salaries (until a last-minute reform the minimum was essentially just minimum wage in some cases).

People think the payment work migrants make for NHS services covers the average usage. Again until a last-minute reform this was significantly below typical use.

People think work visas are for "skilled" work. For most of the "Boriswave" period the "skill level" was "passed high school" level and you could literally get a work visa to work in convenience stores, kebab shops, petrol stations etc. Which was widely abused in schemes to sponsor your mate or someone paying you on the side to make up for their wage.

Yes, "highest emigration since the 1920s" is a massive problem.

The sad fact is the majority of people who leave the UK are skilled workers who will pay tax. They aren’t the people who take more than they contribute.
Off the top of my head the younger people I know who have moved abroad all wok full time in professional roles and don’t have children. You are hardly likely to get those who claim benefits with multiple children leaving the UK as they have too much to lose, plus where else will they get so many free handouts?
Those coming here will probably take more than they contribute especially when you factor in them bringing their families over here too.

Good to see the use of student visas has massively tapered off. Universities were making good money by offering a route to permanent stay and not from the quality of their courses.

We just left. I'm non EU but husband amd kids are British. Net migration -4. Well done?

The figures showing those aged 65 or older entering the UK are depressing. They are also going to be taking far more than they will ever contribute. Surely we should have an age limit imposed on immigration.

I'm sorry but I must push back on this.

It is a problem for a country if there is a significant, very rapid shock to the ethnic and cultural makeup of a country. The levels we are talking about are unprecedented in history for a peacetime situation. Any parallels you can make are to countries that ended up with ongoing, long-term, violent ethnic tensions.

This is added to concerns people have about the pure fiscal contribution of recent migration waves which is very negative on average, and particularly so if you look at a country-by-country level. This is the majority of concerns in this thread by the way. That it is economic insanity to run an immigration programme which brings in hundreds of thousands a year of future state dependents.

I'm sorry but referring to this as "Great Replacement Theory" is a lazy way to shut down debate on one of the most serious issues facing this country. It is a rhetorical trick to tie legitimate concerns to a strawman version of "~a shadowy cabal is deliberately trying to wipe out the white race!!" to try to make people uncomfortable about discussing it.

I've had enough of this copy-and-paste talking point.

It would be interesting seeing the makeup of the over 65s. I know several people whose long retired British parents are returning from Spain/France due to ill health/needing care and finding it hard to cope when they haven't learned the local language.

It’s students -wherei live is a low scoring uni. Many students from east mainly have finished their masters and after failing to find a job at the required income are leaving. They are given ? A year to find a job and now leaving.
Shame really but someone with a Bangladeshi degree and a masters from ton pot UK uni doesn’t have much chance.

So you’re really only concerned about what colour people are coming or going - not the numbers 🙄

The graph below says younger are leaving bed older returning? Scroll back

its students surely?

and more seeking asylum

the figures wont show the whole story

Is it people with citizenship returning?

The younger people going is down to jobs and opportunities. That’s gov policy having an impact. It’s better to attract skills than lose them.

I agree. 'Single dark men' who arrive illegally and disappear into illegal businesses and the drug trade are a problem. As are hundreds of fake barber shops, sweet shops etc as fronts for money laundering from the drugs trade. It may not be a problem if you are getting your Dinner Party Cannabis/Coke delivered to your nice MC London enclave but it is a major problem for everyone else.

Where do you get that from? The data shows it is young workers

British people arent all White. Im British and not White. I've told my brown children to look elsewhere for work too.

Well said

I am concerned about the huge numbers of people coming in from all around the world who have different cultural backgrounds when at present we do not have a successful approach to integration.

I know you’re desperate beyond belief for me just to be a nasty racist instead of someone who holds genuine concerns about the trajectory the UK has been on since Blair took office.

Also concerned about the numbers, I would prefer zero net migration for a few years until we get a grip on the million visa overstayers.

Great argument based on thin air, facts?

The transfer of assets by the super rich and the destruction of the middle class is far more an issue for the ordinary person in the UK can than on average 16 asylum seekers per 10,000 coming here (all of that 16 not even allowed to stay).

Fact
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migration-to-the-uk-asylum//

Guess what?

Its called globalisation, you think UK is alone in facing immigration? In reality immigration is tiny compared to other countries at the front line of conflict.

What makes me so sick about this debate is the optics from outside of Europe.

White Europeans have colonised the entire world, 500 million live outside of Europe , more than any other ethnic group.

Trump has the rubber neck to talk about foreigners in the USA , when his Grandfather was an ethnic German immigrant, he's a second generation immigrant himself.

Millions of Brits move abroad for 'a better life' with no regard to improving the local economy or integration, yet they scratch their heads when non-white people attempt to do the same.

And what the fuck are these 'huge numbers', in a country of 70 million people and 100,000 asylum seekers last year, that's an invasion is it?

You may prefer zero net migration for ethnic purity but it would fuck our economy for six, don't expect Reform to deliver that, Trump hasn't delivered that neither because the billionaires that back Republicans and Reform have a never ending need for immigrants for the economy. But they'll feed the illusion as you want with a task force going after the thousands of overstayers which will mean fuck all to legal migration.