Net migration has decreased from 649,000 to 204,000 in the year to June 2025

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I guess this won’t be shouted about in the news. Such a good thing

I find the inter-European squabbling over this very strange. The solution clearly can't be that it's a zero sum game, there's a fixed number of people who just arrive on the coasts and the issue is one of redistribution between the countries after having accepted this inevitability...

It says they are doing low skilled jobs NOT that they don’t have skills or professions. I would guess that the vast majority are not the lowliest. Those guys don’t escape or make the journey successfully because they don’t have the resources to do so.

Are the majority of immigrants refugees arriving in boats?

With their mums presumably.

Huge outward migration from the UK at present. I don't think it says anything good at all.

https://x.com/EdConwaySky/status/1993995645070545042

The young men I met at my language class (all from Africa who had been shipped to our local town after The jungle at Calais had been cleared a few years ago)

Are you serious? Are you saying Calais clearance of 'the jungle' (which very much still exists and always has, clearing away tents and makeshift homes once a month does little) a few years ago led to migrants getting 'shipped' to your local town. As in a coach came and picked them all up and they were all granted entry to the UK ? They aint illegal then .

I've heard everything on Mumsnet now.😆

You can just see Daily Mail recalibrating , (judging by the comments on here)

Immigration down 70% but ...but...still too many single dark men coming !!

(and despite no real change in the amount of people leaving- just the numbers coming dramatically coming down, that's how fucking net works) The new headline will be-

Great White replacement, our best white people are leaving in their droves and being replaced by dark rapists !!

Fuck, I want to leave this country, its sick and broken.

Excellent news. It’s a start, but there is still a very long way to go before ordinary people start to notice the difference as they go about their daily lives. In terms of the numbers of non British-born people in the country, we need to get back to the position of 20 years ago. Only then will the political situation start to change.

At my language class in France.
Sorry if I didn’t make that clear. And I am well aware that the jungle still exists.
Having actually met some of the young men (and it was all young men) on their way to the uk I shared what I saw and heard. Sorry if you don’t like it!

That’s not really robust evidence though, is it?

and despite no real change in the amount of people leaving- just the numbers coming dramatically coming down, that's how fucking net works

Number of Britons leaving the UK higher than previously thought | Politics News | Sky News

The number of British nationals who left the UK last year has risen from 77,000 to 257,000, according to revised immigration statistics.

Its not a question of what I like, I think the whole demographics thing is complete horseshit. It lends to this fantasy that the white race is about to die out.

How many people of Northern white European live in South Africa alone? Around 4.5 million. That's more people than Birmingham , Manchester and Leeds and Glasgow put together.

We currently have not even half that many Africans here in the UK.

That's just South Africa, forget the millions of whites all over Africa. Or the 100's of millions in the USA alone, and the millions in Australia and other parts of Africa and Asia.

Guess what? All those people left Europe, every last one of them, for 'a better life'

https://fullfact.org/immigration/british-national-migration-revisions/

The methodology counting emigration of British citizens changed in 2021, which increased the number, and it’s been pretty much flat ever since.

What about gross migration? We’ve had an exodus of taxpayers over the last year. Unfortunately most migrants are not entering high tax paying professions. Also, most British citizens come home after spending some years working overseas, whereas most immigrants to the U.K. never leave. They grow old here. The he most financially beneficial immigrants are those that countries like Dubai attract: fit, healthy, professionals of working age who leave before they become a burden on the taxpayer.

Dubai has 0 personal tax. Why would young high earning professionals come to the UK to get low wages and pay high taxes, while being tarred as benefit scroungers and told to leave as soon as they get old?

Surely people who leave the UK are always highly skilled? High housing costs & wage stagnation make the UK very unattractive to young people.

I know. My point wasn’t about who would want to come at the moment, it about who a country should try to attract. You can attract them with higher tax than Dubai, as long as it’s not cripplingly high and as long as you offer other benefits like a safe environment, a free society and cultural opportunities like theatres, exhibitions and sporting events. Britain is strong on the last of these, but its ranking for the others has taken a big hit over the last 5 years.

We've had an exodus of tax payers last year?

It’s due to changes in the immigration rules, originally introduced by tories. Many Uni’s are struggling.

It’s younger people leaving. I didn’t realise youth unemployment was at 15%, that’s high.

I can see why there’s a pick up in threads on young adult dc struggling to get work.

Some probably deserve to. My friend’s half brother came over here from a developing country where I used to work, having been offered a ‘scholarship’ to a university. His family believed it was very prestigious when it wasn’t. They had to borrow a lot of money for him to come and then there were no British citizens on the course, the teaching was poor and there was very little contact time with the staff. They felt robbed. I felt cross that they’d been taken advantage of. Unfortunately they hadn’t asked my advice.

I know younger people are leaving. Youth unemployment isn’t as high as post financial crash and has been increasing since 05.

One issue is the jobs don’t exist anymore vs when I was young or the employees want too much or older adults are now doing the jobs as retirement ages are older. When I go to the supermarket or to eat out the staff are older.

A lot of supermarkets won’t employ under 18s now and the shifts offered aren’t particularly helpful if you have to fit them around study or the times are unworkable eg a 4am start time. Most 18 yr olds won’t have their own car.

Me too. I earned more than I ever have last year, almost 200k. I work like a dog for it though - mostly 14 hour days in a high pressure exacting environment. Clearly not on the breadline but equally I have never felt so challenged financially. We have been in the same house for 15 years and my mortgage is pretty much what it was a month when I earned £75k, but energy costs, rising council tax, necessary maintenance, outrageous food costs plus ever rising school fees and a narrative that I have the broadest shoulders and should contribute more. Well, I think I’m off to somewhere that rewards hard work and effort and I’m taking my tax contribution that I have made in spades over the last 25 years with me. The latest budget is the final nail in the coffin. We are governed by a bunch of incompetents and I cannot see how they are going to extricate us from this doom spiral. Wages are stagnant and there is no real growth. I want my children to experience growing up in an ambitious and expanding economy not one where people actively seek to cut their hours and productivity because tax rates mean it’s not worth working.

No I’m sorry I don’t buy that you’re financially challenged because of the amount of tax you pay. On £200k you are not struggling. And if you are it is due to choices YOU made! You chose to take on a big house and mortgage, you chose to put kids in private education. You have so many choices and that is a hugely privileged position to be in.

That sounds awful. I know that some of the genuine uni’s have much fewer international students since rules change. Also been some changes to post graduate. Son is in a graduate job and one of his fellow graduates is trying to do all his professional exams much faster so he meets criteria of extension of visa. There was quite a lot the tories did to reduce total numbers but of course the media won’t be shouting this from the rooftops. Saw the mail was focussing on the high percentage being asylum seekers, brushing over the big reduction. I am not a tory voter but these reductions are from policies they introduced.