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[Viviennemary]

Its absolutely scarey that this incompetent lot are running the country. Not as bad as Liz Truss but that's hardly a yardstick . Some old Labour. Squeeze the money out of the workers and give it away. They had a real chance to reform benefits they didn't. Now more handouts for folk with large families. While the rest of us pay.

Billions and billions btw are going into an unproven green engery carbon capture scheme.

Honestly every government gets called useless on here, budgets never please everyone. I think people are just tired and frustrated in general at the moment.

I disagree that people do not plan to have the number of children they can afford. In my experience that is exactly what people generally do. The people I know who wanted big families found a partner very young - under twenty - and went hell for leather after high paid jobs so they could afford more than two children.

Later circumstances may have changed but when they started mostly they calculated how many they could afford.

Interest is higher because this government is borrowing more because people paying tax are leaving the country.

Oh dear - you can tell you are a Reform voter.

'popping kids out' is giving me the ick.

Stop being annoyingly logical.

What they did last time?

Please tell me, which of the following things that Labour did 'last time' did you feel the need to warn people about?

• Reduced taxes
• Increased wages
• Reduced unemployment and the proportion of people who were economically inactive
• Improved public services to the point where the NHS was ranked one of the best health services in the world and invested in schools with the fully funded plan that every secondary school would be rebuilt.
• Pulled millions of children out of poverty
• Kept government borrowing below 40% GDP up until the financial crash, when they led on the global response and are credited with preventing it from being a whole lot worse.

Apologies. There's no place on threads like this for people like me.

If it's pissed you off @Viviennemary then I'm all for it. Keep it coming.

💯 agree with you. Can’t work out why we are working so hard. It seems to pay to not work or aim high. My kids tell me they’ll leave the UK when they are old enough- and I completely agree with them.

State pension is classed as a benefit by the government. However, you only get tbe full benefit if you've paid enough into the system or have credits for being a carer etc. Ive just paid the government about £5k to increase my and hubby's benefits ... though we have paid taxes for 50 years abd never claimed benefits.

If you have 50 years national insurance records I don’t understand why you’d have to top up to get your full state pension, surely if 35 years is the target you’ve exceeded it ?

What on god's earth did you think you were voting for if not this??!!

You’re quite right. Children that do not have the foresight to make sure they are born as first or second children deserve to live in poverty.

@SeaAndStars
I agree with you - my children were very young when Labour got in in 1997 and we were really struggling before then - especially after the 16% mortgage interest rate in the early 90’s…..
Money was really tight despite both of us working but my goodness, I could feel things getting easier almost immediately. I particularly remember the free museums - amazingly cheap days out for us (with packed lunches obvs) and the NHS was great.
I’m now older and with more money (I pay a shit load of tax) but I’d never begrudge making life a bit easier for others because I grew up with free school meals and social housing.
The UK seems to have shifted to the right since the coalition government, austerity, Brexit etc and we’re all the worse for it.

Great budget, very pleased the 2 child benefit cap removed - a horrible attack on families by the Tories gone forever

Yeah, sure, if by "things you don't want to hear" means lazy tribal polemics.

I’m glad you’ve realised but I agree with pp Labour are very predictable on this. Especially this lot.

Whilst building all over the green belt, which is the most effective mechanism for carbon capture... couldn't make this shit up

Why? You’ve worked 50 years so why would you need to do that?

There’s absolutely nothing to guarantee the extra child benefit received by families is actually spent on children though is there?
The money could have been far better spent on targeted services for the very poorest children- social services, sure start, expansion of free school meals.

I can't see where the much needed economic growth is going to come from. I was hoping for some support to small businesses especially hospitality. Bit underwhelming really.

@Newnametrt agree

I'm all about child poverty but I don't think for one moment this will help at all.
Not at all.

Oh well apparently 600 hundred thou children will be lifted out of poverty today !

Look forward to seeing it.

@Fluffyholeysocks

Not underwhelming, utterly catastrophic.

Wine has been hit with a hike which will hit hospitality and small business will be hit by nmw rise.