To think that people who admire Dubai's low crime rate often miss the fact that it's partly due to nearly 90% of the population being temporary workers?

[Carla786]

Some people might remember a week or so ago on AIBU there was a thread about whether the OP should move to Dubai. Many posts praised the low crime rate & compared it favourably to UK.

I was critical of this for several reasons. Checking facts later, I realised that nearly 90% of Dubai residents are Expat workers or migrants who've held in a restrictive system (the kafala system has been strongly criticised for being essentially indentured servitude, and there have been reforms but it still seems concerning).

It's unsurprising crime, especially violent crime, would be low when most people are either temporary expats or people who've likewise been sourced specifically to come and work (and are held in a punitive system), and whose families often depend on the remittances they're sending back.

Obviously the harsh criminal code in Dubai (though there have again been some recent reforms) plays a role, but the population makeup alone makes comments on Dubai's superior morality/crime control etc very questionable.

I myself think policing and crime need serious reforms in the UK but people comparing it to Dubai favourably are comparing apples to authoritarian oranges.

I’m Irish. I used to live there. My ‘accusations’ aren’t at all unfounded. It’s a superficially western-friendly dictatorship with a dismal human rights record which is increasingly extended to suppressing Emiratis who agitate for democratic reforms.

Also has everyone forgotten Marcus Fakana? That was just horrible.
I don't care if he broke the law. It was a barbaric and excessive punishment.

The UAE is the opposite of self-determining, as everything they achieve is based on exploiting other nations. I agree that it’s outpacing the West in many ways. One notable example is how they attract Westerners with lucrative financial incentives, effectively keeping them tied to a system that often conflicts with their moral values. So yes, the UAE is impressive in how strategically it leverages the Western world to its advantage.

While it leads in many areas and boasts many global firsts, much of this progress is built on exploitation. Westerners often fail to recognise this exploitation because they are compensated for their participation.

Your criticism of what you call “detractors” seems unfounded, as it suggests a lack of firsthand experience or a deeper understanding of the broader context of what is truly happening there.

Hopefully they continue to exploit other nations (so long as they are Western that is), after we exploited the folks from that part of the world for nearly 1000 years at this point. It’s not like any of our politicians are going to accept the idea of reparations anytime soon so good on them, I say.

Your politics and history seem rather confused.

You come across as ignorant, and people who think like you are a major part of the problem today. But you will never get it. And there would be no point in even trying to continue this conversation. You will n e v e r get it.

That’s not what people who know me in the flesh would say, so excuse me for brushing off your rather mundane right wing insult 💅

I agree
It is not for me but I have 2 buddies there who love it

No why should I pay reparations
We have traced my family and hubby's back to the 1500s
Our family mace nothing for so called exploitation they were farm labourers an factory workers so stringl;y abiut it fell free to contribute to t =he relevant charities

Again, you seem deeply confused. Maybe do some reading.

Your family have benefited from the Empire that stole from other cultures in order to make you and your ancestors live in relative prosperity. You absolutely should be thinking about reparations, or at the very least, giving a percentage of your earnings to minority led causes. I personally volunteer with charities that help sponsor refugees fleeing from poverty and deprivation caused by the West.

So why are you defending the UAE, which is notorious for its human rights abuses?

Umm, not it’s not? What are you talking about?

I judge the dubai, traditional values, running down climate protesters in their range rover, lot

Nowhere on earth is perfect or cruelty free. But that place is especially cruel

The only good thing about Dubai is that it attracts all the TOWIE type scuzzers so we don't have them here 😆 the trouble is, they'll all be back soon enough...

Do you think its civilised that the ruler drugged and kidnapped his own daughter princess Shamsa and she's never been seen in public since?
Or that Latifa tried to escape and made videos saying she was being kept prisoner and that she'd been abused and beaten?

How about the fact that one of his wives had to flee to the UK and ask for protection and a UK judge said that Sheikh Mohammed was a danger to her and their children?

Or that Sheikh Rasheed Mohammed's son "accidentally" shot his bodyguard in the back and never went to trial, just got confined to his palace for a while?

Is that what you mean by civilised?

And who is providing the domestic help? Would it bother you if your "quality time" with your children was being enabled by someone who may have left their own family behind in another country to do the job? Don't know about you, but it'd make me feel pretty bad.

I agree with this.
Thank you for starting this very interesting thread @Carla786

You must be on the payroll of whoever runs the place 😄🤣

You will take back that accusation now or my legal team will be in touch.

Imagine a beautiful apartment and an easy life. But behind the gaudy wallpaper, the walls are made of shit, and the building is propped up on the shoulders of modern slaves who have no choice. That's Dubai.

Now you sound like the Arab States very own version of Caroline Levitt😄🤣

Bring it on 😄🤣

Ahahahahaha

Just take it back, apologise and I will not take this any further.