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Big fall out - who is (most) in the wrong?

327 replies

Dibrew · 24/11/2025 17:37

I would welcome opinions on this situation which is currently playing out.

Person A is a masseuse, working part time evenings out of a leisure centre attached to a secondary school.

Person A told Person B that she had terminated a session with the male partner of Person C. Person A doesn’t know Person C, but she knows Person B is friends with them.

Person B tells Person C of what was said by Person A. The session was terminated due to him offering money towards the end of this for sexual services.

Person C’s partner strongly denies this. Person C accuses Person A of breaking data protection rules and says Person B is attempting to shit stir.

OP posts:
PurpleSkies2026 · 24/11/2025 19:47

Person A needs to report it to the leisure centre where she works and ban the client. Their partner or friend didn't need to know.

SlothMama14 · 24/11/2025 19:48

NuffSaidSam · 24/11/2025 19:45

The OP doesn't mention gossip at all in her opening post.

In a later post the OP says 'the suggestion is gossip' or something along those lines.

But this is not gossip.

There are only two options:

It's an accurate description of a man sexually propositioning a woman in her work place.

OR

It's a woman lying about a man sexually propositioning her in her workplace.

Someone has done something dreadful. The question is, is it A or C's partner.

And the consensus is because he's a man, he must've done it.

NuffSaidSam · 24/11/2025 19:48

EdithBond · 24/11/2025 19:42

Interesting one.

Person A has clearly breached client confidentiality.

If she experienced sexual harassment at work (both a civil and criminal offence) she should report to her employer, trade union and the police. If self-employed, she should contact her trade union and the police.

She can obvs refuse to book that client again.

If she confided in Person B as a friend, having experienced sexual harassment at work, they should’ve respected her confidence, having presumably promised to.

But perhaps not wise to choose to confide in a friend who also knows Person C. Best to confide in an unrelated friend.

You believe that there is client confidentiality between a masseuse and client that extends to the client being able to sexually proposition the masseuse?

Are you legally trained?

Dibrew · 24/11/2025 19:48

I am not any of those involved. I am friends with B&C and am caught in the middle. C spoke to me about this yesterday and I don’t know if B knows I’m aware.

Reading these replies have backed up my belief I need to make her look at the facts and understand it is very much possibly (likely) her Husband did do what was alleged.

Her main reason for not believing it is that he isn’t ‘into’ what has been suggested (apologies if TMI but A’s allegation was very precise - that he offered her £70 for a ‘prostate massage’ and handjob). The fact that there is this level of detail adds to the likely events IMO.

I completely disprove of how B went about it. She called C when she was in the house with her Husband so he was aware almost immediately.

I don’t know if it has been reported to the leisure centre, for my friends sake I kind of hope not given it’s linked to the school where her three children attend.

OP posts:
SaltAndPepperNuggets · 24/11/2025 19:48

EdithBond · Today 19:42
Interesting one.
Person A has clearly breached client confidentiality.

I've heard it all now - client confidentiality for a sleaze bag?? I don't think so!

ohyesido · 24/11/2025 19:51

Did person C do it?

NuffSaidSam · 24/11/2025 19:52

SlothMama14 · 24/11/2025 19:48

And the consensus is because he's a man, he must've done it.

The statistics do point that way unfortunately. As does the fact that he only told his wife about her coming on to him after she'd heard about his reported behaviour.

But that's not even the issue here. The issue is the sheer number of ill informed, problematic posters taking about gossip, defamation, GDPR, confidentiality clauses and so on.

It's such terrible and inaccurate advice.

If you are sexually assaulted or propositioned in the workplace you are free to tell whoever you want. There is no GDPR or confidentiality agreements that cover this. It's not gossip to talk about being sexually assaulted/propositioned (if it's not true, it's a lie, but it's never gossip).

MaurineWayBack · 24/11/2025 19:53

Londonrach1 · 24/11/2025 19:43

Why on earth person a do to discuss this with a friend in this situation Person a should never break patient confidentially as that put in a person b in a vulnerable situation to spread rumours. Person a should just told person c fully booked and if had any evidence passed it to the police. Don't get an external friend involved. Person a needs to look at lone worker policy and look at how they deal with patient confidentially. Does person a have a body they can ask for advice or unregulated.

A good friend of mine used to do massage like this.
She would never have a man as a client wo a her dh nearby. Because the demand for a happy ending is so common that she had to take steps to protect herself. That’s how common this is. And having a man, and more precisely her dh (adds weight) is the only that worked.
A lone worker policy does fuck all (just says to be careful to have access to exit and let people know where you are and who with - which I assume would be against GDPR for you too…..).
And clearly people nearby (it’s a leisure centre! Not her house or a room somewhere either no one else around) didn’t stop him.

Also having proof would mean a video with sound. Do you think anyone will agree to strip (near) naked for a massage if they are been videoed? Wo even going into all the safety associated with having said video (because THAT would trigger major rules to follow etc…. to be legal)

Basically, what you’re proposing is to protect the man ‘because GDPR’ whilst stopping A (or any other woman) to protect themselves.
Because their ‘privacy’ is more important than women’s safety.

SALaw · 24/11/2025 19:53

PurpleSkies2026 · 24/11/2025 19:47

Person A needs to report it to the leisure centre where she works and ban the client. Their partner or friend didn't need to know.

Didn’t need to but can if she wants them to.

BackToLurk · 24/11/2025 19:55

SALaw · 24/11/2025 19:45

Client confidentiality!! Keep it confidential that the client sexually harassed you! Won’t someone think of the sleazebags?

This

lolly427 · 24/11/2025 19:55

Ah so he didn't mention to his OH that the masseusse tried it on with him until after she had accused him of being sexually inappropriate.

There's no doubt in my mind that C doesn't know her husband nearly as well as she thinks she does.

Childanddogmama · 24/11/2025 20:00

lolly427 · 24/11/2025 19:55

Ah so he didn't mention to his OH that the masseusse tried it on with him until after she had accused him of being sexually inappropriate.

There's no doubt in my mind that C doesn't know her husband nearly as well as she thinks she does.

Edited

Yes and she doesn't know what he enjoys sexually. Maybe the wife doesn't want to do that so thought he'd try elsewhere.

BackToLurk · 24/11/2025 20:01

Depressing number of women trying to come with a reason why the victim of a sleazy man is the real bad guy here.

Clarabell77 · 24/11/2025 20:04

randoname · 24/11/2025 17:40

What on earth was the masseuse doing talking about what had happened? Surely what to do is covered in training? Person B shouldn’t have passed on the nugget. I guess the least at fault is person C.

The least at fault is the person offering money to a masseuse for add ons? 😳

NuffSaidSam · 24/11/2025 20:04

PurpleSkies2026 · 24/11/2025 19:47

Person A needs to report it to the leisure centre where she works and ban the client. Their partner or friend didn't need to know.

I'd want to know if my husband was using the leisure centre at our kids school to buy sex.

I know they say ignorance is bliss, but really?!

NuffSaidSam · 24/11/2025 20:07

Clarabell77 · 24/11/2025 20:04

The least at fault is the person offering money to a masseuse for add ons? 😳

TBF that C's partner. C is the wife.

Crambino · 24/11/2025 20:16

Person A shouldn’t have told person B (gossipy & unprofessional)
and
Person B shouldn't have told person C (it is indeed shit stirring).

HerNeighbourTotoro · 24/11/2025 20:19

BeCalmLilacLion · 24/11/2025 17:45

The way it was phrased was as if she told the friend of the person's partner with the intention of them telling the partner. Not that they wanted support from a friend. If this was the US and this could go to a civil court, that's what they'd say.

Alas we are not in the US...

HerNeighbourTotoro · 24/11/2025 20:20

Crambino · 24/11/2025 20:16

Person A shouldn’t have told person B (gossipy & unprofessional)
and
Person B shouldn't have told person C (it is indeed shit stirring).

Person A should not have to be a subjest to sexual harrassement by a sleazy douchebag while at work. You're right, she should have gone to the police indeally (I realise this is not what you meant, for you it was only an unprofessional gossip, lol).

SaySomethingMan · 24/11/2025 20:22

FastTurtle · 24/11/2025 17:41

The DH of person C for being a sleazebag.

Struggling to see beyond this, tbh.

HerNeighbourTotoro · 24/11/2025 20:22

Childanddogmama · 24/11/2025 20:00

Yes and she doesn't know what he enjoys sexually. Maybe the wife doesn't want to do that so thought he'd try elsewhere.

Wait what...So it's OK for him to proposition people and asking for sexual favours because his wife may not be giving it to him at work? C's husband, is that u?

SaySomethingMan · 24/11/2025 20:23

Dibrew · 24/11/2025 17:47

Nope no camera. The bloke is alleging that she tried it on with him and she is hurt at being rejected hence making an issue.

Yeah right 😂🙄

99bottlesofkombucha · 24/11/2025 20:24

BeCalmLilacLion · 24/11/2025 17:43

I think the masseuse handled it unprofessionally. I'm sure there is a way to handle such incidents that don't include telling the friend of the partner of the person you are accusing.

‘Unprofessionally’… really? He made it unprofessional, he doesn’t deserve protection. It’s true it wasn’t the wisest decision but the masseuse is a victim here; zero obligation to protect him.

Squidgoals · 24/11/2025 20:26

Asking for a happy ending isn’t covered under GDPR because a: it’s illegal and b: there’s no data involved, only dirt. Person A is a masseur not a prostitute and has every right to report person C’s partner to the police. I feel bad for person C but much worse for Person A.

Wickedlittledancer · 24/11/2025 20:32

I’m with A, women should always call this out and I’m very dismayed at the first response saying it was a breach, can only assume that was a bloke.

so let’s be clear, you sexually harass a woman you’ve no fucking right to confidentiality,

and yeah he did it;