To think all schools should teach children the old traditional hymns

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Just switching between channels and Songs of Praise came on. It was a run down of the most popular school hymns.complete with recorders It brought back many memories and how important communal singing is. It doesn’t matter what your religion is, everyone should know the most popular hymns as a way of uniting society.

Maybe you need to read a bit more about Christianity if that is your interpretation.

You can be educated about religious faiths without being made to participate in their rituals and festivities. You are being disingenuous - you know full well that nobody said that they didn't want children to be educated. It is beginning to sound as though what you want is not for them to be educated but converted, or at least moulded in British Christian culture.

I'm glad your DS has benefited.
However I don't think the OP is particularly interested in the benefits of communal singing. She is pretty evidently opposed to multiculturism.

No, I see what I see. I don't believe that you're as obtuse as you are pretending to be.

@NormasArse I think it might have done , the teacher who used to do singing was quite traditional , so we only got to sing obladi when we had a supply, used to make us all giggle , us belting it out in a broad yorkshire accent !

Yes. It took some time.

Ditto here too. I hated it and gained no benefit at all from communal singing. Luckily I've managed to avoid it in adult life too.

Yep. Bring back indoctrination. Make Britain Christian again. The very last thing we need.

Some God sends a fella named Gabriel to a young woman, a virgin, who is engaged to someone else, and tells her, " Get ready my boss wants to impregnate you".

Then this boss fella comes down and somehow impregnates her.

The kid is passed off as someone else's, and a few years later the real dad comes back and organizes for his kid to be tortured and executed ?

Nah.

She likes presents though :-)

But sing about it ? Nah.

Get to what exactly- is this another numbers puzzle🤣🤣🤣

The first time I went to a school assembly as an adult, some 30 years after leaving primary school myself, I felt an overwhelming nostalgia when I heard the school singing ‘Autumn Days’.

Community and togetherness can be so hard to find these days. It’s not even like in the 90s when everyone watched the same TV and talked about it, because there just wasn’t much choice. I think it’s lovely that my children are learning the same hymns that I sang in the 80s. They do also sing other more modern songs that aren’t religious, that I also love.

I get communal singing isn’t for everyone, nothing is, but I adore it, it stirs something in me that I can’t even quite explain. It’s the same as Christmas- going down to the tree in the village and all singing the familiar carols with the rest of the community, the same songs you know will have been sung for years, it just brings everyone together and somehow makes me feel part of something bigger than just my nuclear family and modern life.

I'm sure you understand. I've stated it quite explicitly.

Haven't you got a roundabout to paint?

I immigrated to Scotland from the states about 20 years ago and my kids were born here. There’s separation of church and state where I grew up so I was very surprised when my (Jewish) daughter came home singing a song about how baby Jesus loved her. Obviously well aware I chose to move to a Christian country and have (almost) never pulled my kids out of anything - they did the nativities and coloured the Easter story and all sorts. But I did pull them from the assembly run by the school prayer group and I’d pull them from communal Christian singing as well. Too many of the songs speak about ‘us’ and they aren’t Christian so it feels like lying to me. But that’s possibly because I’m both an immigrant and a minor religion so have no cultural connection to the music at all.

They have a weekly assembly and do some singing (much to my son’s disgust, he hates singing) but it’s mostly Fischy music stuff about sharing or friends or recycling or something like that.

I agree, it's part of our cultural heritage, whether you actually are a believer or not. And yes, communal singing has proven benefits regardless of how some posters felt bored in assembly 😂

This exactly. Unfortunately the Humanist Society get triggered at the mere mention of Christianity.

it’s everyone in society being able to know the same songs to sing at the same events. As our history and traditions are largely Christian so are the related songs

I’m not sure why you’ve posted on here, you aren’t open to even considering opinions that differ with yours, particularly the idea that the UK is no longer culturally based in Christianity.

All Things Bright and Beautiful is not a hymn.

People do know how to search you tube "old traditional hyms, Scotland England Uk "they can have a sing song at church, home wherever. Its choice, remember singing three craws, thats a classic! Everything changes with time

But surely, living in another country and your kids being born in that country it’s important for them to become connected to that culture to integrate.

An interesting take for a Jewish person on Jesus though.

Of course it is

Its first publication was in a book of hymns for children in the mid 19th century - I’ll take that’s as a hymn

And what’s that got to do with the question

im not required to consider something factually incorrect

I don't get this "integrate" thing.

Is it not really assimilation ?

Why can't we just be different ? Why force conformity?

For sure, the same laws are for everyone, but why culture too?