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Ihatetomatoes · 23/11/2025 17:41

Puzzledandpissedoff · 23/11/2025 17:18

As a result of the uncertainty over the safety of the drugs, highlighted by the Cass review into gender care, led by paediatrician Dr Hilary Cass, doctors can now only offer the treatment to under-18s as part of a research study

Last year, the government brought in a UK-wide indefinite ban on the drugs being prescribed privately or by the NHS to children and young people questioning their gender identity

I get the first part, but on the second bolded bit even a "research project" involves the drugs being prescribed, so how has this been allowed at all?

Edited

Indeed, how has this been allowed? Who is pushing for this? Researchers? Drug companies? Parents? Did they not read the Cass report?

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OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 23/11/2025 17:55

Keira Bell is in the front line of those resisting this, a woman who took testosterone while she identified as a boy in her teens, later felt this was the wrong decision, and writes about the lifetime medical impact and changes to her body as a result. She particularly talks about the adults who enabled where she feels strongly they should have protected her.

How many Keiras in that 200+ who will live with lifetime damage and regret? How many are 'dismissable' as a regrettable side effect of making the other children happier?

What, if as posited, it does turn out that missing pubertal development does call permanent changes and detriment to brain development?

What, just wondering, might be the potential dating pool for young adults incapable of sexual arousal and with prepubertal bodies who are physically legal but cognitively permanently stuck in childhood? Rule 1 of safeguarding: think the unthinkable and ask the difficult questions.

At one point lobotomies and electroshock therapy were all the rage. Should a child be able to have one because they want one and their parents agree?

And as many have noted: the supreme court judgment about restoring women's existing legal rights is so terribly 'complex', needing all sorts of assessment and consideration and discussion and votes and kicking into the long grass for years because it's just so hard, but this? Slipped quietly through and it's fine.

I would be certain that these children and their families will be tightly locked into legal contracts that ensure they have no come back should it turn out their lives were destroyed in the process of this experiment.

Ihatetomatoes · 23/11/2025 22:37

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 23/11/2025 17:55

Keira Bell is in the front line of those resisting this, a woman who took testosterone while she identified as a boy in her teens, later felt this was the wrong decision, and writes about the lifetime medical impact and changes to her body as a result. She particularly talks about the adults who enabled where she feels strongly they should have protected her.

How many Keiras in that 200+ who will live with lifetime damage and regret? How many are 'dismissable' as a regrettable side effect of making the other children happier?

What, if as posited, it does turn out that missing pubertal development does call permanent changes and detriment to brain development?

What, just wondering, might be the potential dating pool for young adults incapable of sexual arousal and with prepubertal bodies who are physically legal but cognitively permanently stuck in childhood? Rule 1 of safeguarding: think the unthinkable and ask the difficult questions.

At one point lobotomies and electroshock therapy were all the rage. Should a child be able to have one because they want one and their parents agree?

And as many have noted: the supreme court judgment about restoring women's existing legal rights is so terribly 'complex', needing all sorts of assessment and consideration and discussion and votes and kicking into the long grass for years because it's just so hard, but this? Slipped quietly through and it's fine.

I would be certain that these children and their families will be tightly locked into legal contracts that ensure they have no come back should it turn out their lives were destroyed in the process of this experiment.

She particularly talks about the adults who enabled where she feels strongly they should have protected her.

Adults living with children this this, take note. They may grow up, regret the stopping of puberty and 'changing' (not actually possible obviously it's a lie) and the parents and others who enabled this abuse rather than care....

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Peridoteage · 23/11/2025 22:38

Honestly its horrific

endofthelinefinally · 23/11/2025 22:47

LVhandbagsatdawn · 22/11/2025 14:18

Point of order: children are used in medical trials all the time. Where is the outrage for those experiments, and why is it only this one which merits multiple threads on the subject?

Because we already know the appalling damage that these drugs do to children. How this trial got ethical approval is beyond me.

endofthelinefinally · 23/11/2025 22:51

Ihatetomatoes · 22/11/2025 14:48

What causing this rise in gender dysphoria? Who's pushing it? Why do some children 'think' they are in the 'wrong' body? Where does that belief come from? There is a growth in children learning about this gender ideology and many vulnerable children pulled into this thinking

Because this is what children are being taught in school.

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