To not really get why people don’t like clothes?

[keeponwishing]

I’m not talking about specifically liking fashion or following certain trends.

I mean in general, clothes are a personal choice. They can express who you are, there’s do much choice out there. Why people say they don’t care what they wear?

That was my immediate thought when I read that post, it takes just as long to put on nice clothes as shit ones, but it’s very telling rhe poster wanted to think horrible things about someone who they thought looked good.

This whole thing is about aesthetics v functionality.

Some people are interested in colour, shape, fabric etc and some are interested in dressing for protection and function.

Both are fine. And both mean different things.

I've no interest in fashion. Currently it's all about baggy trousers and dark brown - both of which I hate so why would I buy them?

I absolutely hate online clothes shopping. Every store has different sizings and I've better things to do with my time than faffing about waiting in for and returning parcels.

I have a lot of clothes but I don’t particularly like them…or not on me. I buy things because they look nice on the hanger (or on the model) or because I like the fabric but then I put them on and they look awful on me. I love buying clothes and I have a particular style but it probably just doesn’t suit me.

I have a dd who’s 21 who has absolutely not interest in clothes other than then being comfortable.

It matters to YOU.

Please do tell me your today outfit??

You’re clearly not understanding that if I walked by you and the street I’d know nothing about you apart from a judgment based ln how you decide to present yourself?

I find this really depressing: people judging complete strangers by the clothes they wear.

How about judging people by their manners? Or their pleasant expression ? Or the way they are interacting with the people they are with?

I have zero interest in clothes. I wear what fits me, is affordable, and clean.

I'll openly admit to not quite understanding what you mean when you say, "Here I am and this is my statement".

Does that go for casual outfits, or is it just for a dressed up look?

Curious as to what statement that you want to make? What's your style?

If you worked in the eye of the public, and the public was polled on what impression you give, what would you hope that they would say?

Because it’s easier to sum up by clothes. They say more than other things. I can usually sum up people by what they are wearing pretty quickly with a couple of glances.

Its not judging l just can’t help it.

How do you know that what your interpretation of what someone is saying through their clothes is what they're actually trying to portray? Social cues like this are subtle, hugely subjective and very easy to misconstrue.

Clothes shops are overwhelming, far too much choice and unless you're a cookie cutter size, nothing fits properly or looks as expected when it's on. I don't like being seen as out there so tend to wait until the trend is so established it's basically over then I think well what's the point now. Social anxiety and the fear of being perceived sadly freezes my wardrobe in a very boring state.

Because I don't like my body and I don't think any clothes on me.

but, as, given this thread, most people aren't deliberately making any statement with their clothes, and therefore almost definitely don't understand what statement other people who do care are making with theirs, how do you know that anyone is correctly interpreting anybody else's clothing?

e.g. you could wear a smart business suit that you think says 'I'm a successful professional.'
You're hoping that other people look at you and interpret that 'correctly' - that you are someone who is intelligent, hard working, well dressed, successful, stylish etc. But you have absolutely no control over whether they do!

A pervy guy might look at you and just think 'She's wearing that tight skirt and heels to show off, she wants everyone to stare at her arse.'
A 20 y/o student might look at you and go 'Wow I wouldn't be seen dead in that outfit, it's so dated. She clearly doesn't care about being fashionable or looking good.'
Someone who doesn't earn much might think 'That looks like a really expensive outfit - doesn't she have anything better to spend her money on?' Or 'She must be very stuck up and rigid.'
Someone who wouldn't be seen dead in anything off the rack might think 'What a cheap outfit - she can't be very successful/want to be taken seriously wearing high street trousers and an old blazer in a cut that went out of style 3 years ago. And heels, who wears heels to work these days?'
Someone who likes wearing bright colours and statement jewellery might think 'Oh her outfit is very dull, she's probably depressed,' or 'she must be shy and not want to draw attention to herself.'
Someone who is countercultural might think 'Oh, she's wearing that to indicate she is a corporate drone, with no mind of her own.'

Obviously you can tell some things about people based on clothes. Probably social class and disposable income, maybe their job, whether they follow fashion, if they’re ‘into’ clothes, whether they are in a particular subculture, perhaps whether they like to show a bit of flesh or dress modestly, and much less often something more specific. I guess if you’re also into fashion, or a particular subculture, then there are clothing shibboleths you can clock.

But I don’t particularly want to know any of that about a stranger, and it’s all pretty irrelevant to whether or not I want to be friends with someone too, and to what I value about my friends. The things I’m interested in knowing about people are easy to get from brief interactions - are they friendly and funny, what are their jobs and interests, what have they read recently, what do they think about politics… unless they were kitted out head to toe in slogan tees and statement pins then none of that is observable from clothes choice.

No they aren’t.

Someone who shops in White Stuff is going to be very different from someone who shops in Plumo. Different outlooks, lifestyles, disposeable incomes, occupations could be assessed from these

Compare and contrast: "Because it's easier to sum up by race. It says more than other things. I can usually sum up people by what what race they are pretty quickly."

Do you not see that what you're saying about clothes is pretty much the definition of the word prejudice? You're pre-judging someone's entire character based on a single aspect of their life. You might pretend to yourself that you're not judging but you absolutely are - you're pre-judging someone based on your personal biases about just one thing that characterises them.

Yes but it's not accurate.

I don't wear the clothes I want to wear. My choice is limited by my budget. It is limited by the clothes available in the shops because a lot of what is available to buy is poor quality and poor design and style. So what I'm wearing is make do stuff and nothing to do with what I would like to wear.

I think that you judging people by what they are wearing is the epitome of what is wrong with today's world where everything is to with obsession about appearance. And nothing to do with real worth.

Judging is maybe the wrong word.

Assessing or decoding is better.

But you are choosing what to wear via finance. Even if it’s not what you want to wear.

You don't understand OP.

I don't give a fuck what you - or anyone - thinks about me.

I wear clothes that are comfortable, appropriate for the weather and occasion, and clean.

That's all.

You enjoy wearing clothes that express something. Good for you, crack on.

I don't think it's as simple as that. I've never heard of Plumo but had a look and they've got a sale on just now. So if I clean up on their sale items, how could you possible discern any of those things from looking at me decked out head-to-toe in sale items from Plumo as opposed to someone wearing White stuff?

People do tend to mix and match as well, I think few people buy all their clothes from one brand. Someone wearing a White stuff top and a pair of Plumo bottoms - what does that say about their outlook, lifestyle, income, occupation, etc?

Bullshit. I've got two full DJs, cummerband and bowtie included, sitting in my wardrobe right now that I've worn on numerous occasions. I've got a number of quality, fitted suits with nice white linen shirts and polished shoes to match. I've also got a well-worn set of bike leathers and crash helmet. I've even got a kilt for my family's tartan plus sporran etc. And right now I'm wearing an obscure band t-shirt, a hoodie and a tired, but delightfully comfy, pair of jeans plus fluffy socks.

If the first time you'd met me I'd been wearing a different one of those outfits you'd have judged me differently. Yet every time it'd still be me just in a different outer wrapper.

Jenny Joseph-
"When I am an old woman I shall wear purple... "

From the age of 14 to 16 I cared. Then hippies happened and I started wearing whatever I liked.
Now I am old I still do - I wear whatever I think suits me, not whatever is in fashion.
I love bright colours, so do my family. My daughter's wedding was fun, DH wore a bright red suit, DS had a blue one which he had embroidered himself.
A guy in the supermarket a few months back said I looked like Grayson Perry (I was wearing a very colourful raincoat from Boden). I thanked him for the complement.
Life shouldn't be drab. Brighten up everyone's day.

You can tell if someone is rich or not by if they wear expensive clothes… but make it deep.

And you're clearly not understanding that most people don't give a damn what you think of them as you walk past?

I like my clothes and enjoy choosing/buying/wearing new outfits. But I don’t necessarily think I express myself through my clothes. What does a chunky knit, pair of leggings and leather boots say about me, I wonder? Or a simple strappy midi dress in summer? I like to feel nice in my clothes but wouldn’t say I express myself with them.