To say that women look bloody weird ….

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.. when the only part of their face that moves is their mouth and eyes.

And don’t get me started on the massive fish lips.

Never see any naturally beautiful young women on TV these days. Such a shame

I think you've fooled yourself into thinking that your cosmetic work 'doesn't announce itself', when it most likely does. As I said, if it makes you happy, great, but own and accept that you need it to feel better about yourself.

I think that's probably something to do with French women want to look classy and understated, rather than "made up"

Well I will be one of those old women with wrinkles and lines.i don’t look anything wonderous but i look like me.

Yay, let's support other women in poisoning themselves, deforming their faces and giving the message to other young women and girls that this is the way to be a valuable person!

I'm sure pasting lead on their faces made Elizabethan women happy, and foot-binding made Chinese women happy, and starving and over-exercising made Jane Fonda and her ilk happy.

In 100 years this ridiculous beauty standard will be seen for the horrorshow it is - nothing short of the mass poisoning and societal abuse of women. WTF happened to feminism?

I was going to type something up but tbh this says it all.

I agree op. The worst is the younger women in their 20s making themselves look older and they all start morphing into the same style of face. I assume this is due to social pressure to look a certain way and I do feel sorry for them. Maybe do it when you are in your 60s but enjoy your natural, youthful face while you have it! But that's just knowledge that comes from age when you no longer have that face.

Nah, no need to do it in our 60s either......

I honestly don't think I have a single female friend my age (40s) who doesn't get botox and fillers. And none of them look even remotely uncanny. Only one is visibly "done", but that was entirely intentional as in her culture, looking obviously surgically enhanced is a status symbol for a woman (well… for her husband, really, there's a very peculiar "rich wife" look she went for).
What most people notice on the street are just the bad jobs. And it still amazes me that in the UK you can get botox done practically in the back of a corner shop after a two-week course.
Obviously I do it because it makes me feel better, just like plenty of other things I do. That's why the hostility and absolutism in this thread feels so odd to me.

I agree, OP. There's something deeply disturbing going on in society when older women feel the need to tamper with their faces in a desperate attempt to look younger and young women feel the need to emulate a blow up doll to feel attractive or 'enough'.

Some very defensive responses on here.

You're all used to that look, hence it's now normalised to you. None of my immediate circle, some well over 40, some well under, feel the need to get cosmetic work to accept ourselves. Like I said, you do you, but own it and stop pretending it's not obvious to others. Also, it's not hostile to give a realistic perspective.

I agree OP and it's not only how they look now, it's that they have set themselves on a treadmill because a few years down the line they'll think something else needs doing to their face, then again, and again. It produces people who all look the same. The argument 'well if it makes them happy' doesn't really hold water because it only makes them happy for a short while. Each to their own, but I hope this craze passes, I really do.

Let's leave it at that. And next time you see me, do say hello - I'll be the one who's clearly a tragic victim of cosmetic surgery. You won't miss me!

This is why the industry tries to get them early, hooked in, long term custom.

Surely the concern for most women who don't have the time and money for fillers/ botox / surgery is that the look the OP is describing is setting some kind of expectation. That women should look a certain way, that women should focus on their appearance, that the male gaze should be a main focus.
So that is where the focus and concern is in terms of commenting, worrying etc.
I was in a cafe yesterday and picked up a copy of the Daily Fail. A woman there on the front cover advertising her wisdom on 'what works ' to keep her looking 'so good' at 60 something. The plastic surgery augmented look is sending a message that women in their natural state don't look good or good enough. Ditto that women need to go all out to make sure they don't age..
The posters on here saying not to critize other women's choices are of course right but are also missing the point. Culturally the pressures on women to look a certain way impact us all. And that is depressing and s*. It would be lovely if we could just celebrate diversity and beauty in all ot it's variation and natural state. Unrealistic I know but there you go x

I looked tired and grumpy and haggard before Botox. Now I look calm, relaxed, and slightly more youthful. I also experience fewer headaches and lower levels of anxious feelings - known beneficial side effects of Botox treatment. It’s a personal choice, you don’t have to do it. I don’t fake tan, or use filler, get my lashes or brows done but it doesn’t bother me that other people do.

This isn’t a thread about the aesthetics industry, or the pressures on people - particularly women, to not age. It’s just a thread to insult women. Another opportunity to judge women on their appearances. Groundbreaking.

A bit of an overdramatic parting call there, as I said, you do you, but be realistic regarding how natural all this work actually always looks.

There are a number of women in my workplace that have had botox and fillers (most also have russian lashes) & it is very obviously not natural in many cases. I don't think they want it to look natural though?

Its a very specific look but if it makes people happy I really don't care as it has no impact on my life whatsoever.

They may be eyeing up those of us that haven't had anything cosmetic done and take pity at my sagging jowls and crows feet.

I do agree it hits a bit differently when very young women overdo the treatments as it can change a perfectly lovely face into a mask with no expression.

No, it's not, it's actually questioning why women feel the need to look a certain way to not be judged.

It's all a huge con to get money out of women. If the surgeons were responsible they wouldn't offer these procedures to people who are showing no more than the natural signs of ageing, or have 'normal' lips but want exaggerated ones.

I'm not against cosmetic surgery where someone has a feature that is outside typical parameters and wants it brought within typical parameters because it's making them unhappy or causing physical pain, but it shouldn't be offered for the reverse reason - where someone looks typical and feels healthy but wants to look more 'beautiful'. It often doesn't work and people lose sight of what a face/body should look like, leading to repeated cycles of surgery, and the patient eventually looking grossly distorted and ridiculous.

Surgeons who do this are irresponsible.

This and Mumsnet would take this thread down if they had any decency.

Not to be judged???? Are you kidding 🤣 Missed the bit where the OP was not judging. Turns out they will be judged anyway. Lose lose.

Yeah its a shame when beautiful woman take it too far but at the same time i find it fucking annoying when people assume ive had stuff done just because i look a bit younger than my age and my lips are naturally full. Think we should go back to if we have nothing nice to say dont say it at all.

How you must suffer 😂

Thanks OP- could you post a photo of your face so we can see a "non-weird" one please? I am sure it would benefit us all to see what we should be aiming for.

Photo?

And our girls