That Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock should be prosecuted for the avoidable Covid deaths

[LlynTegid]

The part 2 report of the Covid inquiry finds that at least 20,000 deaths were avoidable, had restrictions come in a week earlier.

Various other findings confirming the failures of Mr Johnson and Mr Hancock.

I think they should face criminal charges, such as corporate manslaughter given government is an employer. AIBU

Yanbu at all

Nothing will come of it though

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Do i think they got it wrong? Yes I do. Do i have any idea what they should have done? No i don't.

As should all the Labour politicians who demanded earlier, longer and harder lockdowns

Agreed.

Had they tried to bring anything in sooner, like social distancing etc., I am not sure it would have been adhered to anyway.

Whatever they did would have been wrong from some perspective. Rock and a hard place.

Agree. The point of the inquiry should be to learn from it so that any future pandemic or anything similar can be managed better. They did things wrong like the contracts and I’d like to see some of those being repaid but I don’t want to see them in prison, no.

Locked down earlier? 23,000 deaths that could have been avoided if they had done. They should definitely be made to pay in my opinion.

Hard agree

What a massive fucking waste of everybody’s time and money this whole enquiry has been.

I have felt this all along, even before the outcome of this enquiry. At the time I couldn’t understand what the hell the government were playing at and listening to the deaths wracking up every week was just horrific - They literally have got away with murder.

And how they were still offering the AstraZeneca vaccine when evidence started to emerge of the risks, and when other countries stopped using it is another thing they should be held accountable for.

This is the government! Their literal job is to keep us safe. Nothing is different in hindsight that wasnt present when it was happening.

They were unprepared for a pandemic and didnt act to save lives when they should've done

Locking down was common bloody sense, literally anyone who has seen a disaster movie knows that

This is the thing - I think the Govt wanted to prepare the public mindset for lockdown and felt it needed another week to do it. That meant, holding off until the mayor, trade unions and msm were hassling for it to happen, and then the Govt would give the go ahead.

What is worse to a Govt than 23K lives lost - which it frankly couldn't give a damn about, I mean the elderly have been euthanised with impunity for years, see Gosport - is that it gives an order and the public disobeys.

Once the Govt or the British State loses authority, the gig is up.

Prosecuted for what, exactly? God, even this damning report into the actions of the Johnson government is turned into a stick to beat Labour with. Unbelievable.

YANBU @LlynTegid . At the very least they should be pariahs, along with that 🤬 Cummmngs.

Closing the borders, working from home for everyone who could, cancelling mass events, all would have been adhered to.

By the time of one week before restrictions, the hospitals stretched beyond capacity in Lombardy were being shown. I think people would have reduced contact greatly and most would have adhered to social distancing.

Except those in Downing Street of course.

The 750-page document also has stinging criticism of “toxic and chaotic” culture inside Boris Johnson’s Downing Street – which it said the then PM. actively embraced – in which loudest voices held sway and women were sidelined.

That has nothing to do with hindsight

I was a school governor and we had to decide whether to close a school. Never have I felt so much responsibility and so little knowledge

Whatever they had they had done they would be criticised some people ,wanted longer and stricter lock downs, some people felt we should never have been locked down at all ,yes they got stuff wrong as did every other country.

Your memory and mine differ. Earlier yes, longer and harder not many of them.

I think if Jeremy Hunt or Michael Gove had become PM, or Theresa May still in office, action would have happened sooner.

In fairness (and it galls me to say it) they didn't have the experience to draw on. Neither did anyone else.

Whatever they did would have been wrong.

I’m not sure that we should be basing our disaster response on Dante’s Peak. And the inquiry talked about the devastating effects of lockdown too. Or do you prefer to ignore that part?

Completely agree with you.

We all saw what was happening in Italy. That should have been a bit of a clue that maybe some strong action was needed. It is not as though it all came out of the blue. We had an advantage, in fact. But Johnson was too busy fucking around.

I’m no fan of either but that’s a ridiculous idea.

I couldn't agree more. The whole thing is just pointless.

I think your wrong
How many people refused to even wear masks ?
I dont want to get into an argument about the rights and wrongs of the restrictions, but many people refused to restrict themselve in any way.

I doubt the loved ones of the hundreds of thousands of people who died feel that way. Or the many thousands left disabled.