Labour's new policies for asylum seekers

[frommyheadtomyfeet]

Are rumoured to follow Denmark's, which include the seizure of valuables from people arriving here to pay their accommodation costs.

Is anyone else disgusted by this?! How will it work, they can take people's jewellery, phones etc., and leave them with nothing? What sort of message does that send?

And next time you need your gallbladder removed,remember that it is quite likely that your surgeon will have come across the channel on a dinghy - be grateful!

I don't stand on any side in this, but I think this is not as "quite likely" as some people try to say considering the numbers...
Making claims like that when numbers don't support it just gets people's backs up

It’s moderately likely they applied for a working or student VISA from India or Pakistan, but unlikely they came on a dinghy.

I don’t know how it happened but my husband said they couldn’t understand any of the evidence or anything that was going on and another juror needed to translate into Gujarati for three women.

It’s a bit lost in the thread now but my pint was about a lack of assimilation that can come from rapid high immigration and ghettoisation.

What handouts?

New immigrants are barred from public funds for 5 years, now to become 10 years. This includes public housing. Those waiting for an asylum decision receive the munificent sum of £49.95 weekly. If their shelter provides food, very loosely defined, and many shelters do, this decreases to under £10 weekly

Do you really think people migrate for the privilege of waiting 5-10 years to be eligible for benefits, or for the starvation rations I have just quoted from gov.uk?

I think maybe sarcasm was at play there?

Labelling everyone who is concerned about migration “vile racist” and likening them to nazis is just ridiculous.

A lot of the migrants are fleeing warn torn country’s. But a lot of them are also economic migrants and are placing strain on housing and resources.

But they just work in the black markets or disappear, and many are happy to play the waiting game for the freebies at the end. Did you see the statistic that over half of asylum seekers are still on benefits 8 years after arriving? This is utterly mad and far from the ‘they’re such hard workers and many are doctors’ guff that is repeated ad nauseam without those posters checking the facts

Asylum seekers can access public housing, they just don't get to choose it.

And have access to healthcare, including hospital care, mental health care, free prescriptions, opticians and dental.

And education. It's mandatory for asylum seeking children to attend school but adults can also access higher education.

Plus social care input.

They can't claim benefits but access alot of things which are paid for by the public purse.

Asylum seekers are not new immigrants. Their immigrant status is not yet known.

Gov.uk shows that as of June 2025 only 1.5% of those on UC have refugee status. Refugees are not a big driver of the crisis with benefits.

Over 83% of UC claimants are British and Irish born, same source.

I cannot find a source for your statistic about over half of refugees being on benefits after 8 years. What is it?

Right...but many go on to seek asylum and access all the services in my post.

So in response to your initial comment "Do you really think people migrate for the privilege of waiting 5-10 years to be eligible for benefits, or for the starvation rations I have just quoted from gov.uk?" the answer is many people do migrate not for the privilege of waiting years to access state benefits but because they do get housing, limited money per week, access to healthcare, social care and education. Which is paid for by the public purse.

So although they have no recourse to public funds re-state benefits there are a number of reasons why the public services they are entitled to access makes the UK an attractive prospect.

They're not all in hotels, many are living in privately rented accommodation paid for by the state, with their kids in school, they're accessing NHS healthcare and often social care and even attending further education themselves.

I'm not that poster but it came from the home secretary.

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/asylum-and-returns-policy

"I also have the impression that there is a fair amount a moderately wealthy family can do to hide from IHT. We aren’t interested so I don’t know the details. Those loopholes should be closed."

@poetryandwine I quote your PP but feel I should point out that as you are a US citizen for tax purposes, you will presumably have your estate taxed under IRS rules. In which case you will be aware that the threshold for inheritance tax in the USA starts at north of $25million, rather than £325,000 as here. That's quite the fortress you are building for protection of your family fortune.

Bit rich IMO as you are arguing on behalf of the downtrodden mass of migrants who won't be a welfare burden on tax payers.

I am resident in the UK for purposes of inheritance DH is solely resident in the UK. Our estate planning is based here.

Edit: sloppy punctuation. I think my meaning is clear.

My mistake @poetryandwine. I'm sure Uncle Sam will manage without!

:)

It’s clear from what I’ve said that we’re lucky enough to be comfortable (now) but we aren’t UHNW or anything (nor do we feel we’re missing out). I daresay Uncle Sam can do better

Growing up I saw people’s lives change in an instant and that will never leave me

It’s waived in so many scenarios.

https://righttoremain.org.uk/toolkit/no-recourse-to-public-funds-nrpf/#changeofconditions

@Papyrophile

Sick of seeing those annoying mopeds with L plates on everywhere driving dangerously adding no value

You’re confusing the proportion of asylum seekers on benefits with the proportion of claimants as a whole that are asylum seekers.

If somebody is more likely to languish on benefits long term than work, why should we let them live here?

I gave the proportion of UC claimants who are refugees, 1.5%. Refugees have successfully claimed asylum.

People in the process of claiming are only entitled to the minimal payments I and others have mentioned above: £49.xx per week if you are not provided food and £9.95 per week if you are provided so called food. People in the process of seeking asylum cannot claim UC.