Labour's new policies for asylum seekers

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Are rumoured to follow Denmark's, which include the seizure of valuables from people arriving here to pay their accommodation costs.

Is anyone else disgusted by this?! How will it work, they can take people's jewellery, phones etc., and leave them with nothing? What sort of message does that send?

If they have anything other than the clothes they stand up...take it.

Exactly! Repulsive con man.

Fortunately though Corbyn won’t get within miles of number 10. The man’s an idiot who has tried before to get his arse into number 10, which was then handed to him on a plate. The Monster Raving Loony Party has more chance. Why else do you think there’s more vitriol directed at Farage than Corbyn? People know that there is a good chance of Reform getting in, but most don’t see Corbyn as a threat at all, so he’s hardly ever mentioned. He’s irrelevant.

It’s mostly men arriving, it will just be clothes.

Nice speech. The reality though, was an overwhelming majority of white/caucasian origin population. Where my grandparents came from, seeing anyone black would have been spoken of for ages. Very very very homogeneous.

I do feel sorry for what happened to @OneBookTooMany ’s mother and the many like her.

This is why a multi-faceted national conversation is needed. In the meantime don’t let the lies of power hungry politicians (especially lazy ones) get in the way of facts.

Sorry, I am calling bullshit on the French aspect - I know them very, very well.

Are you indeed? Well, you may be or you may not be @poetryandwine

I am the Queen of Sheba.

In any event, your thinking is second rate-as you cannot seem to understand that all the sources you quoted are about as much use as a second rate academic, as they all sing from the same biased hymnbook.

I am astonished that a scholar of such high renown, as you tell us you are, can be duped so easily that you present yourself as a gull.

They could do far more to stop them but I don’t actually see it as their duty. Like I said it’s not France’s fault we have been such mugs. If we have tented asylum centres because they were trying to get to Ireland I would say let them go 🤷‍♀️

Labour voter. Lots of what is currently being done and being proposed is managing years of neglect of the asylum system - processing claimants (50,000 backlog), negotiating returns agreements, closing hotels housing migrants) and deporting people with no right to be in the UK. All of this is right and long overdue. It's also good that there is no plan to leave the ECHR but that there is a plan to change domestic law so that the safety of British citizens takes precedence over the human rights of migrants.

What I am unhappy about is the use of inflammatory language such as 'asylum shopping', and proposals that refugees granted leave to remain be left in limbo for 20 years.

@poetryandwine I can see you’ve encountered the “we don’t need no education and experts are a bunch of biased talking heads paid by the globalist open borders anarchists” brigade.

I’m with you.

I am not disagreeing with your suicidal empathy point - quite the opposite.

But just as Putin and Xi look to take advantage, Paris has enormous issues with immigration and are quite content to send many immigrants our way. Look at the number of failed initiatives with them.

Anyways…

Corbyn is a menace and eventually he may win. When we have a “ diverse majority” of UK haters and with new approval of 16 years old able to vote in England.

I think it is explicitly clear I am not on the side of the government.
”…the damage done by successive governments to the economy and defunding of the UK’s public services.”

Still waiting sources for your beliefs

The wishes of the minority in the UK, are holding the majority to ransom.

That’s it, in simple terms.

Net migration is projected to fall to about 170000 in a next couple of years. I've seen figures between 100k and 200k quoted as the number that would mean a level population.

Isn't that the supposed point of the digital ID thingy the government have proposed?

Thank you @FiatLuxAdAstra

I am a big believer in providing genuine asylum. I accept the system can sometimes be abused. It is complex.

I think much of the reaction against asylum seekers is a function of our difficult economic times. Some politicians are fomenting discontent.

Hopefully these policies target those people who are not truly vulnerable and fleeing war torn countries but those who are choosing to come here to exploit our British system. Many are financial immigrants imo. They’re coming here because they know they can get benefits and accommodation.

Frankly I can’t blame France. If masses of men were crossing my garden to reach the neighbour’s utopia I’d be helping them up ladders to get them off my property.

Additionally the French police are afraid of the men massing along the French coast. Many are armed. It would seem logical to pierce/confiscate the boats (whilst still on dry land) but you would need huge volumes of law enforcement to deal with 100 men on a boat. I read that they pack the youngest and any women in the well of the boat to deter piercing the boat, and men hang off the sides to repel anyone trying to stop them.