Labour's new policies for asylum seekers

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Are rumoured to follow Denmark's, which include the seizure of valuables from people arriving here to pay their accommodation costs.

Is anyone else disgusted by this?! How will it work, they can take people's jewellery, phones etc., and leave them with nothing? What sort of message does that send?

Also these are hardly going to be boats stuffed with the doctors and engineers we were promised that they are. If they can't prove where they are from they can't prove their qualification and are therefore not going to be much use to us.

As with any one who is a member of a profession.

The problem is, to where?

Didn't they only send that one guy to Rwanda? I wonder what he's up to.

I thought Labour binned it before anyone was made to go. Maybe a couple went voluntarily?

If they can't say where they are from how can they prove refugee status?

Labour scrapped it before it started.

Perhaps the best answer is to invade these war torn countries and reform the British Empire then? When they are back on their feet they can then go independent? Is that a better idea OP?

Lets sort out the root of the problem ---- oh wait that really worked for the Afgans and the taliban didn't it.

Sorry OP UK is already over crowded and we need to make it less attractive to refugees, deportation flights using the RAF and their transport planes and just take them back perhaps?

France! They came from France.

I'm pretty sure there was one guy, who went voluntarily.

It was scrapped because it was illegal and nonsensical.

I don't know why we're even bothering to discuss these proposed plans. They won't happen. The ehrc has been and will continue to be, the major obstacle in implementing any new strategies to limit illegal migration. The courts will ALWAYS favour the rights of asylum seekers; has time not taught us this by now? If a judge can prevent an asylum seeker from being deported over a chicken nugget, how do you think it will go down when jewellery is being seized? Until a party is bold enough to take us out of the ehrc absolutely nothing will change.

It’s not working out well for Labour at all is it?

If someone won’t say what their home country is and has no papers, it is impossible to deport them. No third party country takes people from the UK

They could have but it was scrapped.

France has no obligation in international law to ‘take them’. Especially because they have not even applied for asylum there.

BTW France accepts more refugees than the UK does.

It wasn't illegal. The election was called just as the legal ducks had been put in a row. Bit of an odd decision by Rishi really although I dont think it would have made much difference.

Right. But here we are

They "most definitely" CPULD be net contributors to the UK in some/ many cases. What makes you so cetain that all asylum seekers go on to cost money?

To be fair, I don't have any figures but there CANNOT be zero asylum seekers who don't go on to contribute. Because we havent paid for the first 18 years of education and health then many asylum seekers would be LESS of a "burden" than low paid UK born people.

To be clear I dont want "open borders" or "unlimited migration". I'm thinking of starting a movement to remove hyperbole from discussions of important and sensitive subjects but I think that ship has sailed.

They aren’t talking about confiscating people’s jewellery and phones on arrival. They are talking about people who get hundreds of pounds sent to them every month from family abroad and drive around in Audis while the taxpayer funds their accommodation. What they are saying is that those individuals who have cash assets and vehicles that many tax payers can’t afford should pay something towards their own accommodation. Although I’m not convinced too many asylum seekers are receiving hundreds of pounds a month in financial support from family and driving around in Audis.

How is controlling our borders (which have been abused for financial gain by people smugglers for years) and controlling the numbers of people who want to come to this country racist? It's something countries the world over do.

Plus, taking an approach like this will surely act as a deterrent to as many people risking their lives and drowing at sea? Wouldn't you say that was a good thing?

Beggars belief that people still trot out the cliched 'fleeing war torn countries' line. Some are, but the vast majority aren't. And why do you think it's the UK's role in the world to welcome absolutely everyone who wants to come here? It's entirely unsustainable.

So? They still can't control their own borders if all the illegals are tootling through. The EU allows borders to be closed so they can't argue Schenghen stops them. They just dont want to due to EU politics.

The thing is to stop them getting into UK waters in the first place. And I suspect harsher measures will end up being deployed to stop them unfortunately as would happen with an invasion.

France is also several times bigger than the UK. Just saying.