So who is going to be brave enough to ask whether Shabana Mahmood's proposed reforms are right/sensible/racist?

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Is Shabana Mahmood right or wrong to restrict asylum seeker's rights? In general?

Are you saying they pay nothing to get on a smuggler boat?

What this Hungary
Illegal migration remains active and there is no change on the horizon “that would reduce the number of people leaving [their homelands, or change or possibly eliminate the profit of people smuggling organisations,” György Bakondi, the prime minister’s domestic security advisor, told M1 on Friday, adding that Hungary will have to “live with” illegal migration in the long term.

Continue reading at https://dailynewshungary.com/security-advisor-illegal-migration/ | DailyNewsHungary

Laughable you’d think they would arrive with thousands of pounds in their pockets, 😝

This is a perfectly reasonable and well articulated post. It is a very good example of how people can express concerns about migration without resorting to racist rhetoric. I wish everyone could approach the subject in this kind of measured way.

You make some good points, and I don't disagree with them. Though personally, I would prefer to see the introduction of a statutory duty to house homeless British people instead of scrapping the duty to house asylum seekers. It shouldn't have to be a race to the bottom, and nobody should have to sleep on the street.

I agree with you that inequalities in our society need to be tackled, but pitting one vulnerable group against another isn't the answer imo. Yes, these things need to be addressed, but there are much bigger, deeper structural issues that are far more important to tackle in my view. The focus on migrants and migration is often just a convenient distraction that many in the elite are happy to perpetuate.

I am saying the smugglers make sure to take every last penny they have. Many stop in France to do crimes to raise the cash for the smugglers.

I’m seeing a lot of spin around Mahmood atm, I don’t rate Starmer though.

On the family reunification it’s more likely to alter the age of men arriving so they’re younger and single, and also push women and children to take the risk as they can’t get here otherwise. Look out for more bad outcomes in the Channel if so.

Nah, you hear people complain about too many immigrants using the NHS, schools, houses, getting money, blah blah as well.

The reason there is so many immigrants in the UK is the gov gave them visas to work/study/be with family here, the same gov's who made cuts on everything else we need - then blamed the very immigrants they let in.

On it's own, maybe, but when other measures such as announced today, it will begin to have an impact on the people who want to risk a very dangerous boat journey?

Exactly. All this hyperbole about less than 1% of immigrants- the asylum seekers arriving by boat. When we would not even notice them if it weren’t for the fact immigration is sky high on the legal, paid for a very expensive visa side of the coin.

Don't tell me, going to tell me about Sharia courts now?!
What you're writing is total fear-mongering bollocks.

WTF?? Surely this can't be true? But then again, nothing surprises me.

I think if you had 600 young men living in a hotel or barracks in your town or village you might notice them.

Having read today that 1.3 million foreign nationals are claiming UC as we face a brutal budget ,yes I think it's a good idea and I'm surprised we don't already implement all these reforms

10% of the population of Hungary is foreign born compared to 16% of the UK.

Can you really spot the difference?

That comes as no shock.

We do. There are quite a few MoD bases nearby.

Yeah, the crowd of fat,unemployed and unwashed balding men shouting at the door while wearing a union jack t-shirt and drinking a can of stella is a right giveaway.

The vast majority of these are EU nationals from before Brexit that have settled status and therefore have worked & paid NICs.

A crackdown on boat people isn’t going to touch this cost.

Interesting point. The contrast couldn't be more stark.

When Britain was at war the men of this country didn't run away to seek asylum. They stayed and fought. The women didn't flee either. Children were moved to the countryside but stayed in the UK.