So who is going to be brave enough to ask whether Shabana Mahmood's proposed reforms are right/sensible/racist?

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Is Shabana Mahmood right or wrong to restrict asylum seeker's rights? In general?

There used to be a popular song, sung by Florrie Ford in 1906, entitled:
"My Wife Won't Let Me."

In this, Florrie sung about being waiting at the church to be married. Her intended eventually sent her a note saying that he wanted to marry her but

"My wife won't let me!"

The joke of the song was that although he had promised her marriage, he had done so confidently making all sorts of promises but knowing-when it came down to it-that he would be saved from having to marry her, as his wife forbade it.

In this case, the Home Secretary knows that she has to say something-even though Sir Keir and his Attorney General have declared all immigration laws, "racistl."

So, like the chap in the song she can shout about her new rules while confidently expecting that the ECHR will not let her do it.

We are the bride who believe all the guff, she is the groom who says much but won't deliver because she relies on her spouse (THE ECHR) forbidding it.

She can then pretend to wring her hands while laughing her head off, knowing it was all bullshit to begin with and relying on being able to say that

"The ECHR won't let me!"

It also acted as a deterrent, people now know they cannot be sent back and numbers did increase.
It also made things harder with no access to the EU database which has held up claims.

My posts do not. I am very well aware of the differences.

Brexit has also led to many less foreign students coming to UK. who bring in a lot of income. Universities have had to make redundancies because of this.

Brexit was because of Farage. No, he may not have been involved in negotiations, thank god, but that's far too hard for him anyway.

He's a racist grifter who has had a massive part in destroying this country. And people still falling for it, he'll finish it off if Reform get in.

Yep, brexit also resulted in mega wealthy leaving too. It's the gift that just keeps giving, sigh.

No it wasn’t a deterrent asylum was just as high in 2002 pre Brexit. Take a look.

Do you see the DA acting as a deterrent in ROI? Can you say how?

Illegal and legal migration has destroyed the U.K. The sheer numbers are too high especially since the Boris wave…hopefully they will be deported.

Some serious deportations need to take place …we are full to bursting and can’t cope. Everyone is sick of it!

The boat arrivals are from the worst third world countries ! Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq etc . We do not want them here - they don’t share our values and are a serious threat to our safety.

I recently had the misfortune to drive through Bradford and it was a shock you can’t believe it’s the U.K.

Grim doesn’t even touch the sides.

I agree that Universities rely on international students. However, 16,000 of them applied for asylum in the last year.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/sep/02/home-office-tells-foreign-students-they-will-be-removed-if-they-overstay-visas

The young men in small boats lie and lie, they pretend to be younger than they are, they throw any any ID, they claim to be gay or a Christian and so it goes on.

I would put a hit squad of Home Office officials in boats around the UK to process an application. The current set up is rubbish.

Decision is made, no appeals, no chance to work in nail bars and car washes, cash in hand, no chance to met some daft women who then gets pregnant.

Yet we seem to bend over backwards to give these young men the benefit of the doubt EVERY SINGLE TIME. Hence their claim is upheld and what 80% are allowed to stay. Why? We know nothing about them, we dont know often where they have come from. Other EU countries have a much lesser % of claims agreed. Reminds me of the spiralling benefits bill - why do we do this to ourselves??

Nearly all immigration is controlled by gov, they are the ones who grant visas. So 14 years of tory, who granted record numbers of visas, while at the same time making cuts to our services (when arguably they should be putting more in to account for the higher numbers in the UK), so really is at fault here? The immigrants or the government? Let's blame the correct people...

It’s the government at fault. Tory and Labour to a lesser extent given they’ve just taken over but they need to act asap….

We don’t need the boat arrivals nor the massive Boris wave …both should be removed and returned to their home countries for starters.

The message needs to go out coming by boat you won’t be allowed to stay…

You seem to keep apologising and keeping pushing the narrative oh poor immigrants give them a chance…why? We are full and certainly do not need the dregs of the third world here on our shores.

There were videos circulating last week of them in France marauding about a small town carrying a boat the scenes were awful an intimidating mass …coming to a town near you soon.

No thank you.

Bradford has a large number of British born descendants of immigrants from South Asia in the 1950s and 1960s. Not sure where you want to deport them to and why. But if we can deport British citizens, could we start with fat, bald, uneducated people with flags rather than working and law abiding British citizens of South Asian heritage.

Why do you have to be brave? What a very strange way to ask a perfectly sensible question! To answer, I don’t know yet-I need to look into it more.

It has. But what proportion are integrated into the wider community? It has been reported as one of the least integrated in the UK. Do people really want more places like this?

Yep, it is horrific in many parts of London, Whitechapel is like a slum never seen so much rubbish strewn and filthy everywhere! It was unbelievable how dirty and rubbish dumped.

I saw similar in Harehills in Leeds.

This is the U.K. but some places are akin to a hell hole in the third world.

I think certain parts of London are worth avoiding as with other areas of the country.
Sadly it is what it is.

Also Coventry.

I am seeing hate on the people and generalisation. This is my issue.

I do blame the government.
It actually started with Tony Blair and all by design.
I have nothing but contempt for him and everything he did.